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 Are all the people on this site against mixed dogs! There is nothing wrong with a mix breed dog! They make just as good a pet as a pure bread! I'm so sick of people demanding that I not breed my dog based solely on the fact that she is mixed! You don't know anything about her but the fact that she is mixed! She is incredibly smart, cute, well-behaved, and has an awesome disposition and temperament! Me breeding my dog to give puppies to my friends has no effect on the shelters! They and there parents do not want a shelter dog for various reasons. I will breed my dog, you may call me stupid and irresponsible but i don't see it that way.
Also people say what does a 17 year old know about breeding dogs. Well both of my parents are breeders, they breed pure bread doberman pincher's. Also my sister is a breeder she breeds not only rottweilers but horses as well. So i do know a bit about the subject and anything i may not know i have very well educated people to ask. I will someday breed my pure bread, papered, AKC registered Boxer, but before that i will have my rat-chi mix have a litter.
I'm sorry you all have such a problem with mixed breed dogs, even if they are no different (apart form breeding) then a pure bread dog. |
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Pam&Maggie
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| 09/30/2008 12:14 AM |
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| I have no issues with mix dogs. Sometimes they are much more stable than purebreds who are bred by unscrupulous people. And some of the best dogs I've ever had were mixed. And heck if you already have homes for your pups, more power to ya. In fact thats great, I know it's a bummer for me to see all those unwanted mixed or purebreds in shelters and have absolutely no ability to help them because there are just so many and the economy is getting so poor people are dumping more and more everyday. So, viva la mixed pups. I hope if you breed your baby that she has happy and healthy little ones who go to awesome forever homes with your friends. |
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Pam, Maggie, Kidd Roo, Nitro and Rudy
Ratbones Rescue Volunteer
Ratbonerescues.com |
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singingpilgrim
Ratastic
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| 09/30/2008 12:52 AM |
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I feel a little self conscious saying this, but I firmly believe in mixed dogs. I actually believe that there should be more mixed dogs allowed to breed than purebred... but really I believe in outcross breeding... that is breeding Dog A to Dog B, and then their puppy to another Dog A, and then to another Dog A, and calling that puppy Dog breed A. Hundreds of years of limiting breeding within a breed to only dogs within that breed is really, really hurting their genetic chances of less health problems.
I love Sophie, I love that she's a rattie, but when it comes down to it I prefer mixbreeds because they are generally healthier. The only thing that I think are good about purebreds is you know what they should look/act like... however, every dog is different and there are lots of purebreds dumped because the dog didn't meet person's breed expectations (most of the time skewed-- a classic example is people see Eddie or Wishbone and think all JRTs are like that). At least you know you'll be surprised with a mutt and therefore are more open to surprises. |
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lovliiepuppy
Rattie
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| 09/30/2008 2:26 AM |
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Finally good people! I'm so glad someone agrees! I posted a topic in this forum before called "I'm looking for a male to breed my rattie/chi mix with" u should have seen the things people were saying to me. Its still up if u want to take a look.
Thanks for the support! |
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treble02
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| 09/30/2008 5:29 AM |
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I know nothing about breeding so I have no advice to give you. All I am going to say is that I find it offensive that you would title a thread "I'm so tired of dumb people" and then further explain that you are referring to members of this site. First of all if you read the rules of posting it clearly states that insults will not be tolerated. I would say that calling people dumb is definitely an insult. Secondly, even if it wasnt a rule on here, it certainly doesn't seem like a good way to get any positive feedback or advice. It almost seems like you are trying to upset people. hmmm...I have alerted the moderators of this thread as I thought it the best way to handle it.
I am sorry that you felt attacked in your first post but it has been taken care of. There have since been rules posted regarding this topic as you probably saw because Lance (the site owner) directly replied to your previous thread to alert of the new rules about breeding topics. |
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~ Mary, Trixi and Toa's Mommy,
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Caesar & Julia's mom
Alpha Feist
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| 09/30/2008 7:18 AM |
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| If that's how you feel about the people of this site then leave! I don't understand why you would want to be a part of if, especially after you title your thread like that. All some people were doing was trying to give you advice, however it wasn't the answers you wanted to hear so you act like this?? I told myself I wouldn't waste my precious time replying to your posts anymore...but this one takes the cake!!! Who are you refering to as "DUMB PEOPLE"??? I've always felt that if you don't care for someone on this site to simply ignore them and don't read their posts...so that is what I'm doing to you after this... I have been a member of this site for a year and a half and consider the people on this site friends...caring, loving rattie lovers! Please take your attitude some place else because we don't need it here!! I come here to relax and have fun with the other members not to be called "DUMB"! |
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Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia
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Lance
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| 09/30/2008 7:25 AM |
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| I agree that the subject of the msg could have been better chosen. I have edited it. I think she will get the message, so lets get back on to the main topic of the post with any further replies. |
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braeli_bryson
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| 09/30/2008 7:34 AM |
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Posted By lovliiepuppy on 09/29/2008 11:45 PM
Are all the people on this site against mixed dogs! There is nothing wrong with a mix breed dog! They make just as good a pet as a pure bread! I'm so sick of people demanding that I not breed my dog based solely on the fact that she is mixed! You don't know anything about her but the fact that she is mixed! She is incredibly smart, cute, well-behaved, and has an awesome disposition and temperament! Me breeding my dog to give puppies to my friends has no effect on the shelters! They and there parents do not want a shelter dog for various reasons. I will breed my dog, you may call me stupid and irresponsible but i don't see it that way.
Also people say what does a 17 year old know about breeding dogs. Well both of my parents are breeders, they breed pure bread doberman pincher's. Also my sister is a breeder she breeds not only rottweilers but horses as well. So i do know a bit about the subject and anything i may not know i have very well educated people to ask. I will someday breed my pure bread, papered, AKC registered Boxer, but before that i will have my rat-chi mix have a litter.
I'm sorry you all have such a problem with mixed breed dogs, even if they are no different (apart form breeding) then a pure bread dog.
i know nothing of what you are talking about or about bredding... but i do know this...
RAT TERRIERS ARE THE BIGGEST MIXED BREED ANYWHERE & LOOK HOW PERFECT THEY ARE... all shapes, colors, sizes!!!! |
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"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"
gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
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bratt
Firehouse Big Dog
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| 09/30/2008 7:42 AM |
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Posted By braeli_bryson on 09/30/2008 7:34 AM
Posted By lovliiepuppy on 09/29/2008 11:45 PM
Are all the people on this site against mixed dogs! There is nothing wrong with a mix breed dog! They make just as good a pet as a pure bread! I'm so sick of people demanding that I not breed my dog based solely on the fact that she is mixed! You don't know anything about her but the fact that she is mixed! She is incredibly smart, cute, well-behaved, and has an awesome disposition and temperament! Me breeding my dog to give puppies to my friends has no effect on the shelters! They and there parents do not want a shelter dog for various reasons. I will breed my dog, you may call me stupid and irresponsible but i don't see it that way.
Also people say what does a 17 year old know about breeding dogs. Well both of my parents are breeders, they breed pure bread doberman pincher's. Also my sister is a breeder she breeds not only rottweilers but horses as well. So i do know a bit about the subject and anything i may not know i have very well educated people to ask. I will someday breed my pure bread, papered, AKC registered Boxer, but before that i will have my rat-chi mix have a litter.
I'm sorry you all have such a problem with mixed breed dogs, even if they are no different (apart form breeding) then a pure bread dog.
i know nothing of what you are talking about or about bredding... but i do know this...
RAT TERRIERS ARE THE BIGGEST MIXED BREED ANYWHERE & LOOK HOW PERFECT THEY ARE... all shapes, colors, sizes!!!!
I was thinking the same thing!! Ratties are a mixed breed!!! Ever look at thier family tree?  |
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swatson6
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| 09/30/2008 7:43 AM |
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Posted By lovliiepuppy on 09/30/2008 2:26 AM
Finally good people! I'm so glad someone agrees! I posted a topic in this forum before called "I'm looking for a male to breed my rattie/chi mix with" u should have seen the things people were saying to me. Its still up if u want to take a look.
Oh I see. We are only "good" if we agree with your I-know-all 17 year old brain. Good one. Sorry you feel that way dear, eventually you will grow up and see your ridiculous. 
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Sarah
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dtls224
Terrier Terror
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| 09/30/2008 7:59 AM |
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Posted By braeli_bryson on 09/30/2008 7:34 AM
Posted By lovliiepuppy on 09/29/2008 11:45 PM
Are all the people on this site against mixed dogs! There is nothing wrong with a mix breed dog! They make just as good a pet as a pure bread! I'm so sick of people demanding that I not breed my dog based solely on the fact that she is mixed! You don't know anything about her but the fact that she is mixed! She is incredibly smart, cute, well-behaved, and has an awesome disposition and temperament! Me breeding my dog to give puppies to my friends has no effect on the shelters! They and there parents do not want a shelter dog for various reasons. I will breed my dog, you may call me stupid and irresponsible but i don't see it that way.
Also people say what does a 17 year old know about breeding dogs. Well both of my parents are breeders, they breed pure bread doberman pincher's. Also my sister is a breeder she breeds not only rottweilers but horses as well. So i do know a bit about the subject and anything i may not know i have very well educated people to ask. I will someday breed my pure bread, papered, AKC registered Boxer, but before that i will have my rat-chi mix have a litter.
I'm sorry you all have such a problem with mixed breed dogs, even if they are no different (apart form breeding) then a pure bread dog.
i know nothing of what you are talking about or about bredding... but i do know this...
RAT TERRIERS ARE THE BIGGEST MIXED BREED ANYWHERE & LOOK HOW PERFECT THEY ARE... all shapes, colors, sizes!!!!
Gianni,
I agree.....with out mixed breeding we would not have alot of the breeds we have today.......I can say I am a HALf breed.......My mom is !00% Danish and my dad is German and Polish.........
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tina224...live...laugh...love...and bark at the moon
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." ~Unknown |
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p5prolady
Ratastic
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| 09/30/2008 8:38 AM |
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I have nothing against folks who want to breed their dogs, as long as they have homes for ALL the resultant puppies in advance of the breeding, and are willng to take on the work and expense of producing a litter. I doubt the OP has had to pony up the funds to get tails docked, dew claws removed, shots, worming, unexpected medical expenses of complications of whelping and nursing for the mother, etc. Maybe she should consult with her parents who know the true costs (if they indeed are breeders) to see if she can shoulder those expenses.
Oh, to be 17 and know what I know now! |
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Bobbi
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rattytatty
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| 09/30/2008 10:08 AM |
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| So true, Bobbi..... at age 17 I thought I knew everything. Now at age ____ (old) I realize how much I don't know, and what I DID know I've forgotten. LOL |
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~Nora~
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SuzieRedhead
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| 09/30/2008 10:11 AM |
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A 17 year old wants to breed her dog?? Where are her parents?? Does she have ANY idea what time and expense it will cost?? Also finding appropriate homes for these dogs?? Come on.................. |
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Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone
Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues! |
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SuzieRedhead
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| 09/30/2008 10:17 AM |
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HEY! I just noticed I made Rat-A-Tat!! Kewl!!
One final comment - I take offense to being called a "bad person" cuz I don't agree with the poster.... everybody's entitled to their opinions.... we see on here EVERY DAY Rat Terriers on death row... dogs in shelters bursting at the seams.........enough dogs die in shelters everyday, we don't need anymore..........
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Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone
Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues! |
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DaisysMom
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| 09/30/2008 10:29 AM |
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Congrats on the new ranking, Sue.
Just a reminder: Per the new rule of the site, members should refrain from mentioning rescues/shelters/adoption in the breeding forum. You are free, however, to discuss those topics at length in the Rescue forum  |
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Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom
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SuzieRedhead
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| 09/30/2008 10:33 AM |
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Whoops! My bad, Tracey - sorry!  I try not to post when I see things like this, but this one hit me wrong... |
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Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone
Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues! |
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DaisysMom
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| 09/30/2008 10:38 AM |
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| No prob, Sue. I know some may have not seen the new guideline. |
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swatson6
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| 09/30/2008 10:38 AM |
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Posted By DaisysMom on 09/30/2008 10:29 AM
Congrats on the new ranking, Sue.
Just a reminder: Per the new rule of the site, members should refrain from mentioning rescues/shelters/adoption in the breeding forum. You are free, however, to discuss those topics at length in the Rescue forum 
Kinda hard not to when that is likely where they could end up. just sayin.........
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Sarah
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wmars1776
Terrier Terror
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| 09/30/2008 10:40 AM |
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Oh Oh.........what will I do with the pups from this coupling?
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Cumberland, Rhode Island
"To everything, there is a season"
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SuzieRedhead
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| 09/30/2008 10:43 AM |
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That is too freaking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone
Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues! |
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DaisysMom
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| 09/30/2008 10:47 AM |
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Bill: I don't think I can explain the likelihood of there being no pups from this coupling without going beyond a "PG" rating.
I'm fairly certain you have nothing to be concerned about however  |
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Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom
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Pam&Maggie
Ratastic
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| 09/30/2008 10:53 AM |
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| Suzie congrats on your ranking and I unfortunately cannot see rthe pic through my firewall! |
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The Rat Patrol
Pam, Maggie, Kidd Roo, Nitro and Rudy
Ratbones Rescue Volunteer
Ratbonerescues.com |
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swatson6
Attention Starved
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braeli_bryson
Terrier Terror
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| 09/30/2008 11:22 AM |
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| lmao... all i keep hearingin my head after looking at that picture is Sir Mix-a-lot's song "I LIKE BIG BUTTS!"... |
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"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"
gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
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swatson6
Attention Starved
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| 09/30/2008 11:33 AM |
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| I think Bill would be highly offended that you obviously think Bandit has a large butt. LOL |
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Sarah
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wmars1776
Terrier Terror
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| 09/30/2008 11:39 AM |
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Posted By swatson6 on 09/30/2008 11:33 AM
I think Bill would be highly offended that you obviously think Bandit has a large butt. LOL
I'm not offended, Sarah and obviously Smokey could care less!!!!! 
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Cumberland, Rhode Island
"To everything, there is a season"
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treble02
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| 09/30/2008 12:37 PM |
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| HAHAHAHAHA....came back from lunch to find THAT?!?! TOo freakin funny!!! Pam...youre missing out! LOL |
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~ Mary, Trixi and Toa's Mommy,
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GoldRushKennels
Rat Royalty
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| 09/30/2008 12:52 PM |
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As far as I am concerned my dear friend Sue can say anything she wants to here. I have total respect for her and have known her for years.
Yes the Rat Terrier is of mixed breed origins as are all of the established breeds. We were ONLY recognized in 1999 by the United Kennel Club. Breed standards were set, no more out crossing allowed period. We are still looked down upon by many of the older breeds as a mixed breed, so yes we take offense when someone posts such a message.
Also the numbers of chi/terrier mixes already in the shelter system is staggering. This young person needs to grow up and see things as they really are.
The ONLY reason that a chi may be introduced in the RT is for MONEY, they want a toy dog. The Chi is not a foundation dog in this breed, it's use to to quickly breed down size for MONEY. Sad thing is they can register them as pure bred dogs with UKCI or CKC.
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SuzieRedhead
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| 09/30/2008 12:58 PM |
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Hugs, Jeff! It's OK, I was absolutely wrong. Rules are made for a reason. But when I see a 17 year old kid saying she wants to breed and calls people stupid when they don't agree just hit a nerve...... |
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Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone
Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues! |
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