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Hi, all!  I have 2 gorgeous males for sale.

I need to find families for them, and advice on how to do that.

For clarification; the 2 males are 11 weeks old, and the parentage is:

Dam is Turn Kiki, from GrCh Turn The Other Paw and JJ Dutchess Westerling.

Sire is Ch Turn Me Loose Lover Boy (Buck), from GrCh Turn Esther From Heaven and Ch Turn Fancy.

(All from TurnerKennels;  http://imageevent.com/turndogs )

The litter was 2 males and 1 female and my 12 year-old daughter loves American Idol, so the puppies were promptly named      Randy, Simon, and Paula.

(Paula has found a home.)

Randy is a Tuxedo, a little smaller than standard so far. Both ears flop down, making his the sweetest puppy face I have ever seen. Big cuddler!

Simon is white and black with tan, and looks like he will have his dad’s wide chest and great musculature.

For those that asked, Susan said rear angulation looked good, but no, I am not guaranteeing anything.           They are dogs.  Love them.

Want a guarantee? Buy a dishwasher.

Obviously, I am not an encyclopedia of knowledge about these dogs. I love them, but I can't keep them all. I have registered the litter, so "should" be able to get $300-500 each, but I have promised my daughter that we would find Families for the puppies, not just places for them to go, so whatever about the money. Also, as evidenced by my statement above, I don't have the patience or the knowledge to play Best In Show politics.

I have my baby, Kiki; and Tank, from her first litter, and my kids.  I have home remodeling plans in the very near future and I just can’t have 4 dogs.

If anyone has any advice for me, where to look, “advertise”, word-of-mouth for local buyers, etc, please email me. I need to find homes for these little guys, and still be able to sleep at night.

 I could just put an ad in the local paper, but I'd love to know they went to Rattie Homes, y'know?

Thanks

Teresa

mtcisneros@yahoo.com

PS  I live north of Seattle.

Being a breeder and a shower and for the kind of money your going to ask as you said in your e-mail, we would want some type of a guarantee. Especially coming from untested parents. NO I am not buying a dish washer but if I am going to take a chance on puppies from untested dogs then I'd need something in return EVEN if it was a pet! They are living and breathing. I do not get that attached to my appliances.

Sorry I do not want to seem flippant either but that is a lot of money weather it is for breeding/showing/pet.

And before I am asked, my dogs are all loved pets first and foremost.

I apologize as well. It just rub me the wrong way because I do LOVE all my dogs. Most that retire are still here and always will be because they are more then breeding/show stock to me.

Our guarantee is,  we will replace any dog for temperament and health issues. Replace means exactly what it says. If you send the dog back  we will replace it. I will explaine. Many breeders and showers have room for only so many dogs and if I can't breed it or show it then it would be very hard for me to place that dog with issues. It is truly the beeders responsibility to decide what to do with that puppy.

Most pet people chose to keep the puppy but reputable breeders and showers really can't so they need options.

You may chose to sell your babies as only pet quality.

I hope that I have helped and that you find great homes for them all.

Darla

I am sure you would take them both for $100.  I think they are worth considerable  more than that. They have some good lineage but with no guarantees  and no testing behind them I would not expect to get top dollar for them..and that is JMO. I would NOT take less than 300.00 each.

I am wondering what you would do with them..... neuter them??? I seriously dought it.

Well, in my case my guarantee was used.  Jack has multiple genetic auto-immune diseases.  So in return I kept Jack as she had nothing she would do with him (and TRUST me if he had to go back I never would have done it anyways, but in this case i was able to get the 2nd rattie I wanted!!) and she gave me a new pup, I just paind the difference between the pup I got and the cost of Jack.  I guess the point is that genetic diseases can always pop up and in most cases the guarantee in for the first 1-2 years and with the cost of some pups out there, it is reasonable if you ask me.  And someone out there that is a BYB and does NO testing or cares less about their pups is not going to offer this.

For my pups I advertised them on Kijiji.com and screened the perspective owners through phone calls and emails. I sold the pups for $135, basically the amount that each pups cost to raise. This was a whoops breeding but I have both of the parents and know the breeder where they both came from. I will not say any thing about your price because that is for you to set, all I can say is that in the area where I live the Rat Terrier breed is becoming more popular but you still cannot find alot of breeders. I sold my pups as pets only and set the price low enough so that any one who fit the Rat Terrier family could afford them. My main idea is to be able to have healthy pups of a breed that I absolutely love and e able to give them to people in an area where the breed is just growing.

Here in MN you can get almost any large breed dog for a song but smaller, sing breed, short hair, dogs are hard to come by. I hope this helps by checking out www.kijiji.com for you.

www.kijiji.com

Honestly, in hindsight, I don't know if I truely believe my "breeder" isn't a high end puppy mill. They are Menenites and have lots of rats but after looking at her site for quite awhile after haveing my dogs I noticed some of her dogs having pups are just pups themselves....maybe a year old? She doesn't test, which at the time I never even thought about. And she is still breeding Jack's parents even though he has severe genetic issues (along with color dilution alopecia). It was his mothers first breeding and according to her she has never seen these problems before, so i would think at least she would pull her from her stock. She also recently had a few litters out of 2 blue parents.........so, would I do things differently, maybe. But I will giver her credit, she stood by her guarantee and all her puppies are raised in her house, saw them when I picked up Jeter.

Eh, she just sounds like an 'ignorant' breeder to me if she stood by her guarantee...someone who breeds not really for money, but because they 'love dogs' or like cute puppies, or whatever, and don't want to spend the money it takes to breed properly. But I don't know her, so I can't say for sure.
We got Sam from another "high end puppy mill" like you said. This lady had at least about 40 dogs in her house, in crates for the most part. The conditions weren't really all that terrible or horrid, although they could've been a lot better. And she was more than willing to sell us a puppy on the same day that we showed up. She didn't seem too "money hungry" or anything, just ignorant as to what she was doing. Not that that's an excuse for it. But we were ignorant as to the ways of good and bad breeders back then. Don't know what she was feeding her dogs either, but after we put Sam on PEDIGREE, his coat improved.
But we know better now, and we'll know what to look for in a breeder if we decide to purchase another dog. Still, I'm glad we got him, anyway.