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abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
01/31/2008 7:42 PM  

hello everyone!!!!!

 

How is your day today? I am looking for a female companion for my male pup and when he is older to breed then i want a female for that but i am just looking around to see what is available.

 

Can anybody help me out?

~buddys mom

maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
01/31/2008 8:05 PM  
Okay so a few questions....?
Where are you and have you looked at breeders around your area?
or are you interested in a shelter or rescue pup?
If you are looking for a dog from a breeder, what registry would you like her to be registered to? I'm assuming since you said you wanted to breed them in the future that you would like them to be registered with a least one of the same registries.
Also what color is your baby boy? because if they are to be breeding partners one day you want to get the best match for him.
Breeding is a big descision and you should be very informed before you mate to dogs,so that is why I am asking some weird questions.
Also how big is your baby now, and how big is he expected to get? What size female do you plan to get?
Also at what ages would you like to breed them at? Because there are some breeders that have older pups, say around 4-5 months and then they would be around the same age. Also, I would recommend waiting until both pups have been checked for conformation and the female is around 1&12 years old.

Sorry if this was a bunch of questions, I tend to be the kind of person that has to know everything before I jump into things, plus I'm sure someone on here would know of a solid and reputable breeder if that is the route you are going. Good luck with picking out a new companion for your household.

**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/01/2008 12:35 PM  
i live in topeka ks and i want a female who is a good breeder and companion for my pup
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
02/01/2008 12:38 PM  
Well, that depends on what you qualify as a "good breeder". How come you would like to breed your male?

Sarah



abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/02/2008 11:04 AM  
i dont know.....i just want to have another rat terrier to love and adore......but i was thinking on nuetering him but that will cost alot more then i could spend
NIckle's Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/02/2008 11:08 AM  
nuetering runs around 60 bucks to 120 another dog if you buy from a breeder is gonna run 150 and up, some rescue dogs run that, so if you can't afford to nueter how are you gonna afford to buy another and feed and care for the second one?

Patricia---Nickle and Dime's Mommy





"Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open"
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
02/02/2008 11:14 AM  
Posted By abullard on 02/02/2008 11:04 AM
i dont know.....i just want to have another rat terrier to love and adore......but i was thinking on nuetering him but that will cost alot more then i could spend


You say you can't afford neutering but you want to breed him??    Breeding isn't free....you  need to make vet visits for mom, feed her high quality food and make sure she gets enough food and god forbid something went wrong.  Do you have the thousands of dollars a c-section and medical care may cost if she gets into trouble delivering them???  And how can you afford another dog if you can't get the one you have neutered because of $$?
Sorry to be harsh, but you do not need another dog in my opinion.  You need to take care of the one you have first.  Breeding is not just something you should do for fun.  There  are too many ratties out there without homes as it is.


Sarah



mommy2ratties


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
02/02/2008 12:44 PM  

i think things could have been explained and questioned a bit nicer. we want to welcome members on this board not scare them off. all of your questions and concerns are 100% legitimate and i agree with them all but they came off very harsh.

abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/02/2008 5:48 PM  
ok.....first i dont know what i want yet bcuz my mind isnt on anything in the world but my baby that is my pup buddy~buddys mom
Susan


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
02/02/2008 10:36 PM  
Having another rattie as a companion might be good, especially if you have to leave you baby alone during the work time. But You need to do some research into the breed.
There are so many different rattie sites that can help you with your decision. The UKC site has some wonderful info on ratties as does the ARTA site. Just put those letters in Google and you will find them. Look around and get familiar with the info.
Do you really want to train two puppies at once?
God knows I am not perfect but training two or more pups at once is more than I have been very successful at. House training alone was terrible with the three pups last year. It is much easier to do one pup at a time and work with them and get them at least house trained before you take on another. Really!
The sites I mentioned can give you the info you need to have and most of us here are happy to help too. There are a lot of tests that a good breeder does to make sure that our dogs are the best they can be before we breed. At a year old you would need to have eyes, heart, and patellas tested, at 18 months is when you could start to test hips. There are a whole lot of genetic problems that can be avoided with these tests and they really aren't cheap. The paper for the patellas being registered with OFA was only ten dollars, the vet to fill it out and check the dog was 75 dollars. And this is a pretty simple sort of thing. But I don't want to breed dogs with problems so I paid it.
I was lucky enough to get the vet to check hearts and eyes without an extra charge, but I was doing three at once. These are a few of the things you need to consider.
Maybe you just want to love your baby and keep him just for you.
Boys do have a few problems with house training once they have been bred. They want to make sure that every other male everywhere knows where their territory and their girls are. Besides loosing all their manners when there is a female in heat near. I love my boy, Simon but he can be a problem when my girls are in heat. It isn't his fault it is just how he is wired and we love him and accept that and clean up his excited about a girl messes.
This is something to consider too, cause you can't fault a dog for following their biological imperative.

ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH OVERDOING Mom of eight, only three left at home! Pack leader to ten ratties: Maggie, Mysty, Berry, Simon, Ceecee and five puppies, Star,Sari, Bluebelle, Double stuf,and Snortie. As well as Ginger the Border Collie and a herd of turkeys!
abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/03/2008 2:48 AM  
good info but i am waiting till my baby gets like 1 1/2 yrs old
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
02/03/2008 6:25 AM  
Susan, great post on the costs involved in breeding! Maybe Lance, Tracey or Morgan could add this info the information post at the top of the breeding forum? Since it's directly from a breeder's experience I think it's a good reference for anyone who is making a decision on whether to breed or not. JMO

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com; www.newrattitude.org
Buddys*Mom


Newbie
Newbie
02/03/2008 12:21 PM  

Hi there Abullard! I also live in Kansas,about 45 min. south of Topeka,AND my Rattie is named Buddy too! AND we are looking for a friend for him!! How cool is that???

talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 12:55 PM  

I like this question too! I thought I would like to start a small kennel too...And fianlly got the most perfect pup I could find perfect meaning I did ALL the right things went to a few breeders,say mom and dad ,EVERY thing they said you should do! And ALAS>>> this is Ceder Ridge Cash!(the one on the rt) A TOTOL NUT! needs to be on prozac! Now he is 6 months old I fixed him! not going to pass along his PERFECT genes!So just because you THINK! you too can be a breederlook really hard and really make sure pups absulutely PERFECT! that is how there are so many pups in rescue! And the breeders in North Carolina have plenty of really good dogs for 200$ I got to FINALLY get a pup with just as good a pedagree breeder has bred 30+yrs,same $$, put with no bad falts 5 generations back, on BOTH SIDES!And a truthful person as well!And I still have schuduled him to be fixed on thurs!


Linda talatzko
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dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 1:19 PM  
Before you BREED. You need to do a breed standard study. You NEED to do testing and dogs should be at LEAST two years old.

Seriously.

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 1:57 PM  

I tottaly agree! I like your little black one! looks like Caesar! only he has tri color,Do you get a lot of comments say'n he?she? looks like a Chihuahue? I do! I'm kind of glad my new pups breeder is going for a more Square?body type,more like the direction the breed standard is going,they have a lot more substance to them,California seems to be still getting a more thin dog,more like a toy fox,or a tall Chi,I wonder what the breed standard will be when they go AKC?


Linda talatzko
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dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 7:51 PM  
Hi !

My black dog, Buddy is from Vermont. He is from Warren Mountain RT's breed by Carmeta French. He is somewhat of a rescues since I am his fourth home within his two short years. He has settled in and will be here forever. He is neutered and he does have two blue ribbons, thanx to Amanda who showed him in Colorado.

My Blade is from NC. A breeder named Cynthia Collins has his litter, but she passed the day they were born. Other breeders scrambled to collect all her dogs. I just happened to be looking on line when I saw them.

My 10 year old standard sized rt had just passed on from mast cell cancer. I don't know what his lineage was. My husband and mom got him from a breeder at a trailer park in Valparaiso Indiana. He was never healthy. He had many allergies. I loved him so much. He was my very first dog. They said he was 6 weeks old, but I doubt it. He was tiny when we got him. I had no clue how to feed properly. He got pupperoni for treats. Very high in calories and fat. He also ate kibbles n bits. And a friend of mine started me with something called Cesar. It is LOADED with fat. Please don't use these products and learn all you can about nutrition for your dogs.

Thank you. I hope you take this with a hug and don't get mad at me. I just want to save all the critters who have no place to go, left on shelter steps alone.

My dh just said he was going to send Blade to the barn. I have to laugh, since we live in a one br apt. LOL I'm off the soap box now.

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 7:55 PM  
Oh btw they say Buddy looks like a min pin on steroids. He is a low rider about 13 pounds and about 12 inches high.

He is very active but loves to eat. I have to watch him. Blade is a skimpy eatter and will gladly give his chow to Budster.

Thanks for asking. We have loads of Jack Russells here and I get that quite often. My ratties are both mini's but not small enough to think they are chihuahuas.

Lots of dog owners here in So Cal.

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
abullard


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/03/2008 8:26 PM  
mine does he is only like ankle high or alittle higher he is getting big on me he is my baby

I love taking him everywhere i go but sometimes he gets in trouble.

So you have ratties are females 2?

~buddysmom
dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 9:39 PM  
Two boys.

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
Darla


Ratterific
Ratterific
02/08/2008 8:52 AM  

 

 

If you are just looking for a companion for your pup, I'd suggest you get a spayed/neutered  rescue. When you seriously and actively start looking for breed quality dogs, you need to consider health testing prior to breeding.  Striving and breeding for improvement  is needed and gret for our breed.

Breeding is not just for fun and cash it is a way of life and dedication. If you breed properly (good food, vaccinations and health testing) you will not make wades of money like people think. The only ones in the breeding industry that make lots of money are, puppy mills and  brokers. The only reason puppy mills make money is they do nothing right by the dog. Brookers make money because they buy puppy mills culls. As long as the public supports puppy mills they will always BE!

I apologize ..lol.. got on my soap box..


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Breeders Of Champion and Grand Champion
Rat Terriers and American Hairless Terriers
Striving For Health, Temperament and Conformation In All Our Terriers
KnD
Breeding For A Better Tomorrow- Today.
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/12/2008 4:04 PM  

susan I really enjoy'd your post! I really am sad to think I have look'd for a really perfect rat to start my kennel ,and now after the 2nd try I don't know Is it REALLY worth it to breed rats? all the breeders I know only charge @ 200$ for REALLY well bred pups! and ALWAYS have 'um(and sell out) it looks like you really don't make much money,and a lot more goes out!I never herd of checking hips! patells's yes! You seem to be more involved in the breeding..do you show?If so, what are judges looking for now?I was shooting for a TRUE type a toy,but the ones I've seen don't look like the standard at all...The breed is so diverce as to what a perfect rat should look like!Just look at the offerings on the site! How will they ever get a standard?If so what would it be and WHO would deside what it should be....something to ponder...


Linda talatzko
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talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/12/2008 6:34 PM  

north carolina ha? Blade looks like Julius! he was from @Boone n.c. I found him for my next door neighbor 's they OF COURSE! fell in love with all my rats and wanted one too(Of COURSE )I got him from healthypets.com he breeds rats and other crosses,check out his web-site ALL! lots of good info. but I didn't like the fact that he is REALLY is a PUPPY MILL! even if his is USDA,You pay the same amount @2-4;50$ but get no papers! And he boasts that pups are taken better care of than most mountain breeders but THE PUP CAME HOME WITH A REALLY BAD CASE OF KENNEL COUGH! But I didn't (couldn't bare) to return him! Got him train'd and well(he got my others sick 1st!)This was just last spring so beware! Kennel cough is REALLY contagious! And takes a long time to get over!But anyway... ALL my rats are mountain bred good SMART STURDY ratters!


Linda talatzko
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RattieGurl0102


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
02/12/2008 7:28 PM  

I have been following some posts lately, and you made a post before on how your male isn't doing so well. Shouldn't you get your other dog back in good condition, THEN possibly look for another dog? It seems like you are unable to keep the dog you have already, being unable to afford his vet care. . .So, if you can't afford to pay to get your own dog back in good health, shouldn't you make him your first proirity? We all love our dogs very much, and we want what is best for them, and right now, I think that getting him to the vet and getting the money for the surgery and paying your own situation first is the best thing to do.


~ Shelbi and Miss Daisy ~

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