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PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
08/26/2008 3:31 PM  
I take it things are getting better? How is he treating your daughter now?

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
KathyGH


Rattie
Rattie
08/26/2008 3:46 PM  

Well,

1. I realized his snapping at my husband was because he was actually "protecting" my daughter! She and I were playing with Spot and everything was great until my husband came into the room- Spot got very anxious (shivering, stopped wagging tail) and pushed himself in between them. When I explained that to hubby (a "dog virgin" he immediatly went from "That beast has to get out of here!" to "Oh how cute!! He loves her as much as we do."  

2. After Spot calmed down, he started to do that "velcro" thing with me- everywhere I go, he follows & looks at me like I'm the center of the universe!. Everytime I sit down he plops down & sleeps at my feet.

3. for the last two mornings, I've been woken up by him jumping into my bed with a toy, poking at me, then jumping down & looking back at me with that "Come on already!! It's time to play" look.

4. I'm completely amazed- (NOT happy with or condoning!!!)- amazed by how he can leap straight up onto the kitchen counters, how he walks along the back of the counch, and how he figured out how to get into my daughter's platform bed (up onto the dresser, then a leap into the bed). What capped it all off, though was last night- he seemed to finally enjoy being gently petted and crooned at and all of a sudden, he jumped up on the couch, sat on my shoulder & covered my face with kisses! How can I turn that down?

JERSEYGIRL


Obsessed
Obsessed
08/26/2008 3:56 PM  

Kathy sounds like your falling in love .......With any animal takes time and patience.  Its worse then training a child.

Will be very rewarding in the end!!  Good Luck


Sue "Holly's Mommy"
doecart


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/26/2008 4:00 PM  

Glad things are working better. Just one thought ... be careful of when he comes to you wanting to play with a toy ... we have always done that with Vinnie. This was something that our trainer told us made him think he was in charge. Making us play with him. So now when he does it, we tell him later and when he goes off to do something else, we grab the ball and say "Vinnie wanna play" ... that way it's OUR idea and not HIS. Really is making a difference with how Vinnie reacts to us being the Alpha in our household. Just wanted to share!!!!

ivy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
08/26/2008 4:05 PM  
that is so great he will not have to try to adjust to yet another home and family I tell you these guys are smart and will worm themselves right into your heart!!!
melo


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/26/2008 4:11 PM  
Hi, this is melody--I do not live that far from you--I am in the big apple

I have been following this and I am so glad that you are figuring things out. I love my rat so much it is wierd!!

Spot sounds so typically rattie, my nora is only 6 month and she jumps like a circus dog and actually stands on her back feet for quite a while!!

BUT, I have been able to get it across to her that she can not leap on everyone and she sits and wiggles and waits to see what the person wants.

It is funny about him not likeing the cane. Nora hates carts--but for the most part is pretty tough.

By the way alot of dogs don't like petting that much, they do not want to be approached that way--they love to be rubbed ----

get the crate and some earplugs---i will work--it took a while but it is a great way to have them get out from under you feet for a while---after some excersise of course. I am a new owner and no expert, but this is what I have seen personally



please give us more news

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
alice4512


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
08/26/2008 4:11 PM  

I truly think obedience class would benefit so much as well. Also let your daughter and husband feed as well. I am so happy you are keeping him. These terriers are truly such joys.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue
RatsRule!


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/26/2008 4:20 PM  
I'm so glad to hear that things are finally settling down for Spot and your family and that it looks as though he won't have to go to yet another home to figure things out in. Hang in there and keep up the good work. I agree with everyone else about crating and some training and being the alpha, it will do wonders for Spot and your family too!

Ratties certainly can be jumpers! My Chloe can jump and plant all 4 paws on my chest (with a running start) and I'm 5'9". She doesn't care to be pet much either, unless she's in the mood, and then it's really more of a lap to lay in or a good belly rub that she is after. And although they can be different, one thing is you'll never be bored with a rattie!!

KathyGH


Rattie
Rattie
08/26/2008 6:39 PM  

I'm wondering if anybody knows of or knows where I can find a trainer to work with us one on one. Spot has gotten much better, but I really do have to keep an eye on my "Alpha Dog" position with him. He still growls at my Mom- I don't think it's her cane. Maybe it's the way she walks- she's 90, and she walks very slowly, hunched over. Maybe he thinks she's stalking him, because that's the position he takes when he sees her like that- crouching & growling.

Anyway, I think I really need some professional advice with this smarty-pants!

DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
08/26/2008 7:07 PM  
Where are you located again. If you are near NY, NY, I would imagine there are an abudance of trainers or facilities available. You could ask your vet or other dog owners (at a park, friends, etc.) if they know and personally recommend anyone in particular. I think it would be helpful for your entire family if you could find someone like Doreen has, who could also come to the home and work with you all individually and personally - especially since your hubby is a dog "virgin" and you have a younger (but not too young to learn) daughter.

I sincerely applaud you for wanting to take the time and effort to do this correctly and for everyone's (including Spot) best interest!!!

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
08/26/2008 7:08 PM  
P.S: One thing I know comes highly recommend is to walk the dog (appropriately, without him pulling you) and ideally have your husband and daughter do this as well. It will help him realize that they are above him in the pack and are leaders while he is a follower

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
08/26/2008 7:12 PM  
When he is crouching and growling at your mom, is his butt up in the air? That's known as the rattie "I want to play" position. If he doesn't have his hackles up or hair standing up on his neck and back, he might just want to play.

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
KathyGH


Rattie
Rattie
08/26/2008 7:31 PM  

No, I don't think he's saying "let's go play" I could be wrong, but to me it looks like stalking- head down, staring at my mom- low, steady growl all while walking slowly towards her- it definatly reminds me of a cat stalking its prey.

melo


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/27/2008 12:07 AM  
How is her when grandma is sitting down? I can see him being on guard about the bent walking. Nora reacts to strange walking.

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
KathyGH


Rattie
Rattie
08/27/2008 1:49 PM  

WEEEE HOOOO!!!! A super-happy ending for Spot!!!!!

I FOUND HIS FAMILY!!!!

We had a really rough night with Spot last night. He had been showing some aggression towards my mom, but last night he was lying peacefully at my feet when my mom came out of her bedroom, and he jumped up & flew at her!! Fortunatly I had left his leash attached, and I stepped on it and yelled "NO!" My husband & I had a discussion and decided we just couldn't keep him, so I took off from work and tried calling some people to help me find a foster or rescue group to help. Out of desperation I figured I'd call the police department one more time (my friend who found him last week called when she found him). They connected me to animal control and the officer there looked back at last weeks records. Not only had his family called the day he went missing (the 19th), but they had left four different phone numbers to contact them at!! Why no one gave my friend this info when she called, and why they didn't give that family my friend's contact info is a mystery to me!!

I called and within 10 minutes they were at my door. Three kids ranging in age from about 10 to 14 who were beside themselves. Spot - who's real name is Spanky- nearly wiggled his butt off when he saw them. Evidently mom and dad don't speak English, so maybe that's a factor in the miscommunication, but I'm just floored by how close they came to losing such a great dog! I gave the kids a little lecture about how fixing him will cut down on his running away, and how he should have his tags attached, but I don't know if it made any impact. They also insisted he is a "Jack Terrier". I can't tell you how relieved and happy I am!!

gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
08/27/2008 2:05 PM  
Good job! I"m glad he gets to go where he fits better. Just goes to show if you lose your dog you have to do ALL the work and call repeatedly to find him because Animal Control/City Pounds/Police units may or may not be tuned in to really helping.

gwacie (Bethany)
My Doggies: http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Rescue: http://www.newrattitude.org
melo


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/27/2008 2:41 PM  
Wow that is such a happy ending, but also bittersweet in a way-

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
08/27/2008 2:49 PM  
Well, I'm glad Spot has found his way home and hopefully some of what you said sunk in and he won't get away from them again. I'm sure some of his "issues" were stress and fear related. Thank you for taking him in, even temporarily, and doing your very best to help him out You've racked up some good Karma, anyway!!!

Who knows...now that you're aware of rat terriers (and this wonderful site - ha ha ha) maybe you'll find one of your own

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

singingpilgrim


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/27/2008 11:31 PM  
I'm so glad he went home!

And if you do decide to get another rattie... not all of them (or even many of them) are as tough as Spot sounded!

I hope you'll stick around!

Pamela
~Sophia Abigail's Mom~
Ratbones Rescue Volunteer
Lucy's Mommy


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/27/2008 11:43 PM  
What a great ending for this puppy. Being at home with his real family and getting to meet a great family like yours. Best of both worlds. And now that you've been introduced to ratties, perhaps you'll get your own one day. Ratbone Rescues has plenty of great babies.
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