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farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/14/2008 8:50 PM  

what's involved in rescuing a dog?

do you have to have a rattie (or experience with them) first? do you have to have have a vet reference?

jis curious...


Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
LadyLes


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/14/2008 8:52 PM  
You do not necessarily have to have rattie experience. You will need a vet reference and a couple of personal references if you adopt through ratbone rescues. I recommend you going to www.ratbonerescues.com and you will find a lot of information on rescuing from that group.

There is nothing better than wine and chocolate!
~Ashley~
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/14/2008 9:43 PM  
thanks! the site's very informative
is it the same way with other rescues as well?

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
LadyLes


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/15/2008 6:32 AM  
It kind of depends on where you go. You can look on www.petfinder.com and find ratties in your area that are in shelters. The screening process for many of the shelters is not quite as extensive...requiring a home visit etc. The best way to find out is by calling the individual shelter directly.

There is nothing better than wine and chocolate!
~Ashley~
gwacie


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/15/2008 7:23 AM  
Pros and cons to rescuing from a shelter versus Ratbone (for example):
1) shelters are close by, and have a less intense screening process but you often know nothing about the dog you are considering.
2) Ratbone requires you go through their process and it can take time, but each dog that Ratbone takes in is in a foster home so they have been evaluated, retrained if needed (or started anyway), and are well known to the foster parent. That means the rescue works to make sure you are getting a dog that will fit within your needs/personality etc. They want the dogs to go to the right fit so it's a forever home.

I've adopted awesome dogs through shelters though some have needed a lot of retraining and socialization. I wouldn't hesitate to get a dog from a group like Ratbone though, cuz you know up front what to expect.

gwacie (Bethany)
http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Ratbone Rescue Home Visit Coordinator
and Foster Home
Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/15/2008 7:29 AM  
I agree. We adopted Skipper thru a small town Humane Society that was so over-run their volunteers couldn't keep up with the animals. His foster mom never spoke to me about him, I got incorrect information from another volunteer...I think what actually happened was that he was crated most of the time so they just didn't know much about him.

With Ratbones when you are interested in a dog you will speak with the foster parent and they tell you everything - good, bad and indifferent. And we keep these ratties in our homes just like our personal dogs so we really do know them well. If I was going to adopt I'd choose a dog from Ratbone.

Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/15/2008 9:06 AM  
Going through a rescue is hard work, but worth every second of it.

I did not go through Ratbone when I adopted Egypt, but I underwent similar scrutiny and am so pleased with the result. Egypt's foster mom had her for about 6 months before she came to me, so she was housetrained (well kinda) and socialized - and her foster mom was the person who drove the 800 miles to rescue her from the shelter too - ensureing that she herself had a vested interest in where Egypt ended up.

I am still in touch with the foster mom and regularly send her pics. She really wanted to keep Egypt but her husband had said no more dogs - and so I was the lucky one

"Never separate the life you live from the words you speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/15/2008 9:12 AM  
No doubt there are rescues similar to Ratbones out there, didn't mean to imply RBR was the only good rescue. I was just pointing out that every shelter/rescue does things differently.

Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
RatsRule!


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/15/2008 10:41 AM  

My 2 cents......  

If you've never had a rattie, I strongly recommend doing research on this breed first!  Make sure this is the right breed for you.  They aren't for everyone.  They are very unique and special dogs!

I have 1 little rattie girl right now and am hoping to adopt another within a few months.  I've filled out an app with Ratbone, but have to say .....  If you don't have other dogs now , this is probably a really, really great place to adopt /rescue a Rattie from.  They seem to really care about their rescue babes which is why I decided to apply with them.  But... be prepared for the adoption process to take a while. They seem very busy with resuces, and I'm still very confused by the adoption process itself and wish there were someone I could talk with directly that could answer the questions the website just doesn't even begin to cover for me. 

If you already have another dog/s, try to get a meet-n-greet with your dog and the dog you're interested in adopting.  I'm not sure that's possible with Ratbone, and  that's my only concern with them.  If you're lucky enough to live in an area of the country where Ratties are prevelant (not the Pacific Northwest) this may not be an issue for you if adopting from Ratbone.  I think most shelters and rescue outfits that are local to you will not only allow but hopefully require introductions before you adopt.  

Where ever you decide to adopt from, the best thing you can do is educate yourself about the breed and the dog you're interested in as much as possible and be ready to make a comittment to that dog for the for the rest of it's life.  Good luck to you.  Hope you find the dog-love of your life!


~~ Life is awesome when you share it with a couple of Ratties! ~~
Terri, proud mom of Chloe & Bonnie!
Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/15/2008 1:06 PM  

Yes, Ratbones is very busy with rescues and sometimes it does take a while for things to get done - simply because there are so many ratties needing rescue out there and they only have so many volunteers! (HINT - we need volunteers for everything from transport to foster care, etc.) But it is a very thorough process that is followed when someone applies to adopt one of their rat terriers. My first foster was adopted a few weeks ago and I spoke with the applicant after he had  applied online several times over the course of a couple of weeks. The applicant lived in another state so was unable to meet the foster in person.

Anyway, references need to be checked, home visit done, etc. Because they want to be sure the ratties they rescue go to good homes!

As far as meeting a dog before adopting that's a great thing IF you can do it. But many RBR dogs are adopted to people in other states who have never met the dog before adopting them. The key here is the foster parents! We will talk to an applicant, answer any and all questions, tell you the good and the bad about your dog. We'll send pictures, videos, email you every day with updates, whatever you are comfortable with...and these dogs live with us just like our personal dogs so we know them very well.

I would be completely comfortable adopting a RBR rat terrier from across the country because I know how dedicated these foster moms are. They don't want an owner to be unhappy with a dog and return it - they want that rattie to go to it's forever home so they are completely honest....and most are very knowledgable about dog care and the rat terrier breed.

Just my two cent!!


Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
RatsRule!


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/15/2008 2:04 PM  

Anyway, references need to be checked, home visit done, etc. Because they want to be sure the ratties they rescue go to good homes!

Absolutely!!  And that's why I was trying to say that if someone wanting to adopt already has a dog, they should do what they can to be sure the dog is going to be a good fit for the one they already have!  Meet-n-greets are a good way to help with that.  A "good home" would take into consideration how thier first is going to interact with the new one and vise-versa.  Right?  

I don't think it's necessary to first meet a dog before adopting if you don't already have another.  Adopting is a wonderful thing and RBR is doping great things to help these poor little ratties out there.  I'm glad there are people like you out there like you ,opening your homes and hearts for these precious babes.  


~~ Life is awesome when you share it with a couple of Ratties! ~~
Terri, proud mom of Chloe & Bonnie!
Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/15/2008 2:42 PM  
A home visit is done by a volunteer (not always a RBR volunteer) who checks to see that the prospective home is safe for a rat terrier (example - no holes in fencing, no toxic substances down where dog can get them, no poisonous plants they can get, plenty of food/water, meeting all members of the household to see if they are in agreement, etc.) It wouldn't typically involve bringing the rat terrier applied for to the new home...usually the home visit is not done by the foster parent.

Of course if you live close enough you can arrange to meet and see how the dogs get along at a different time!

Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/15/2008 5:56 PM  
Thanks so much! lots of information!

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/15/2008 6:04 PM  

the shelter I got polo from just ask'd for me to bring my Pups down there to me HIM! it was COOL ,She look'd them over and desided I was doing ok! and the Boys thought Polo was ok too! so we went home thats  it!!!So it kind od depends on the rescue/shelter? and if the dog is in a program? you can get e-mail's from Petfinder.com on dogs that come in and need Imediate! rescue and you just call and set something up with who ever lists the dog its pretty easy! there are lots to choose from too!depending on how far you'll drive.


Linda talatzko
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sssyliz


Newbie
Newbie
05/15/2008 10:57 PM  

Lets not forget Ratbone is but one rescue out there for Rat Terriers.  Others that I know of are www.ratterrierresq.com  http://www.americanratterrier.com/ http://ratterrierresq.tripod.com/ , their are many JRT  and TFT rescues that have mixes of Rat Terriers and others and ALL of these rescues need your support and charitable hearts to continue...so share the wealth and support it will always be appreciated. Each rescue typically does things in a similar fashion and alot of the founders from each of them started out from the same organization.  I have found that the smaller ones have more personal touch in responding quickyl to you.

levecke


Ratterific
Ratterific
05/15/2008 11:58 PM  

i adopted my first ratbone dog from ratbone rescues in 2005.

Nik (in my avatar) came to us from Indiana.  We live in Seattle.

I spoke with his foster mom for about 3 weeks and felt SO comfortable thanks to her willingness to share and the amount of time she spent with me.  He is a most amazing dog.

 

 


Levecke Mas
Home Visit Team
Ratbone Rescues
Meet my new foster boy-Ajax
That's his picture in my avatar!
bluedog


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
05/16/2008 1:21 AM  

I adopted Paisley 2 weeks ago from RBR. The process took about 3-4 weeks. I was able to talk to her foster mom within a few days of applying and was able to get a good sense of whether she would be a good dog for me, Moose and I met her about 1.5 weeks into it. She had several applicants, some dropped out, some were not a good fit. There is time involved in checking vet references and other references. I felt her personality was represented well by her foster. Great experience - I think it is the only way to go. I provided personal references and a vet reference.

I did not have rat terrier experience. I have owned all my pets for their entire lives and I think that by itself goes a long way to show what type of owner you would be.


Christine
Mom to Michael & Charlotte
Moose (lab), Paisley (rattie), Clark & Lois (tolerant kitties)
levecke


Ratterific
Ratterific
05/16/2008 9:18 AM  

Christine~

Paisley is such a special dog.  There were a lot of apps on her-I had to make a special "Paisley" folder!

Dawn was so thrilled to have her go home to you!

Levecke


Levecke Mas
Home Visit Team
Ratbone Rescues
Meet my new foster boy-Ajax
That's his picture in my avatar!
bluedog


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
05/16/2008 10:39 AM  
Paisley is special! I was so nervous I wouldn't get her. It is hard to know how you might stack up against someone else. She's putting on weight - learning fast. She and Moose are best buds, he is much happier.

Christine
Mom to Michael & Charlotte
Moose (lab), Paisley (rattie), Clark & Lois (tolerant kitties)
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/17/2008 8:44 AM  
Posted By bluedog on 05/16/2008 1:21 AM

I adopted Paisley 2 weeks ago from RBR. The process took about 3-4 weeks. I was able to talk to her foster mom within a few days of applying and was able to get a good sense of whether she would be a good dog for me, Moose and I met her about 1.5 weeks into it. She had several applicants, some dropped out, some were not a good fit. There is time involved in checking vet references and other references. I felt her personality was represented well by her foster. Great experience - I think it is the only way to go. I provided personal references and a vet reference.

I did not have rat terrier experience. I have owned all my pets for their entire lives and I think that by itself goes a long way to show what type of owner you would be.

i don't have any past experience with rat terriers but have done plenty of research on the breed and have owned pets my whole life. however, i don't have a vet currently because i have only recently moved to washington. what would be my chances of being able to adopt without a vet reference though?


Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
myrateddie


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
05/17/2008 9:45 AM  

I adopted Eddie from a cat/dog rescue group.  I like you have had pets all my life but no rattie experience.  I had very little rattie knowledge.  I saw his pic on Petfinder and went to meet.  I spoke with his foster mom and a rescue rep, filled out an app. and the rest is history.  It was a lot easier than I thought it was going to be at least through this particular organization.  I would have waited forever for Eddie though! He is such a special boy

BTW I didn't have a vet reference at the time of adoption because I hadn't had any pets for a while.  That wasn't a problem.  I'm not sure about RBR policies though.  I plan on adopting through them when I am ready for rat #2 though


Heather
Wife to Michael
Mommy to skin kids Mikey and Alexandria
Mommy to fur kids Eddie (RT), Indigo (my horse), and Joey (my beloved pony of 13 years)
maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 9:58 AM  
If you don't have a vet currently and just moved to the area, this is my suggestion to you. Look up a few vets in your area. Do your research and find out which one you would choose if you had a pup already. Contact them, let them know what is going on, they are animal lovers to and probably would be willing to help, and let them know that you would bring your dog to them when/if the adoption goes through. I think that would make a very positive impression on whichever agency you adopt from, and it can't help to be prepared, you don't want to get a new pup home and not have any clue where to take him for his first check-up/visit.

Also, I recently adopted from ratbone about a month ago. They were a wonderful group of people, and the fostermom of my dog sent countless emails and pictures, i chatted on the phone with her, and really she answered every question I had. They made sure Gus was the right fit for my family and they also asked alot about CoCo, my forst rattie, to make sure their personalitiyes would be compatible, and that they would integrate well with each other. Every dog you add to the pack takes time to adjust, but the first time you look into your new pups eyes and you can see just complete happiness, you know without a doubt you did the right thing.

**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/17/2008 10:33 AM  
what kind of questions should i ask the vet to see it they're the right one for me and my pup?

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 10:52 AM  
When I was looking for my vet, I asked around at work, and with people I knew were good pet owners, and saw what vet they recommended. Then I went to the office and asked what ER vet they were affiliated with, what kinds of policies they had, if they minded me looking around their office, and just made small talk on what to expect. I made the appointment to have my pup checked up once she got home, and they explained what type of records I needed to get and what shots the dog needed to have yearly. You can get a feel for a good vet by how they treat the animals they are in charge of, how they interact with them, and most importantly how they interact with the clients and how willing they are to help you. That in itself will say alot about the type of facility they run.

**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/17/2008 10:58 AM  
thanks! one more thing: how am i supposed to know if i'm paying too much or otherwise getting ripped off by a vet? i'm still young and am afraid they might take advantage of that.

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
gwacie


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 11:05 AM  
Get a few quotes in the area for, for example, spay pricing, heartworm testing, etc and compare. Most can do this over the phone.

gwacie (Bethany)
http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Ratbone Rescue Home Visit Coordinator
and Foster Home
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/17/2008 11:22 AM  
thanks! that's a great idea. i wish i knew more people in the area though to get some recommendations for a good vet. anyone on here from seattle that loves their vet?

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
levecke


Ratterific
Ratterific
06/09/2008 8:01 AM  

this may be too late-but Lien Animal Hopsital in West Seattle is great!

Where are you in Seattle Ashley?

I live on North Beacon Hill.

Did you get your pup yet?


Levecke Mas
Home Visit Team
Ratbone Rescues
Meet my new foster boy-Ajax
That's his picture in my avatar!
farmergurlyo


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 10:52 AM  
i live in northern seattle (u-district/laurelhurst area)
i actually won't be getting mu pup until the fall (that's the time when i'll be moving to a pet friendly home ) so i'm doing as much research and whatnot while i can. the ravenna animal hospital's really close to me, but i don't know anything about it. is there a website that you know of that gives reviews or opinions on different vets? if not, there should be! lol

Ashley~ soon to be ratty mommy
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