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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 10:43 PM |
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| That little one needs help now. Didn't someone on the board from Ratbone offer to take Mr. Biggs? If so, why are you waiting? Don't send him to the Humane Society? Ratbone is a great group. They will save his life. Don't let him suffer anymore. I know you love him. But you admit you can't take care of him. Let someone help him. He deserves it. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 10:48 PM |
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I'm just now barely getting around to having my mom call them. She's been pretty busy all week also. Well, I've emailed them already. They're just waiting for my mom to call since she'll be in charge of transporting him to the airport. |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 10:51 PM |
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| How are do you live from the airport? |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 10:52 PM |
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| Sorry -- how FAR do you live from the airport? |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 10:53 PM |
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| I'm not exactly sure. About 30 minutes. Not far at all, it's accessible from the highway. I live in Crowley, South of Fort Worth, and the Airport is inbetween Dallas and Fort Worth. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 10:53 PM |
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| Don't worry, I understood. |
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yogis mom

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| 03/01/2008 10:58 PM |
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Hey Guys...just read this thread. WOW! Cute pup...BUT sounds (to me) that his owner is overwhelmed with school, other obligations, and finances are tight. AND appears the parent(s) really do NOT want a young pup around? Did I miss anything? This dog, as attached as the owner may feel, NEEDS to be in a different environment! He's a young pup, not getting the needed training, or vet care..he NEEDS to be in a different home. ASAP! And the current owner can feel proud he stepped up to the plate and did the right thing, the UNselfish, mature thing, by accepting the kind offers to rehome him. Maybe the pup would end up being somewhere nearby so he could drop by and see him? DO NOT hang onto a pet for sentimental reasons...not when, in your heart of hearts, you KNOW you are not in a position to do what is BEST for the pup! Take up the offers from the posters and Ratbones, and this pup will come out ahead! And the current owner will feel relief that he did it FOR HIS DOG! And what ever happened to the first pup, "Oreo"????? When he had to go? Was he successively rehomed? But please....let the pup go to a full-time home where he'll be someone's 24-7 ! It'll be the BEST decision! For the current owner, his family, AND the pup! EVERYONE wins! Just my one cent's worth. ;-) |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:01 PM |
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Thanks Yogi's Mom.
I still wonder about Oreo. I actually had time for him back then. I would go out for almost an hours walk every night, fed him table scraps every now and then, potty trained him, taught him tricks.
Then one day we had to move to a new home and he was given to some little kid. Hopefully, though, they take care of him. They were the kind of people that would leave him in the backyard or front yard and let him run around the neighborhood.
Still miss Oreo and wish I had him. He would have been older and healthy. I know I could let him roam around the house without him tearing it up.
Oreo and I were best friends. He didn't like strangers much either, but he never growled at them or snapped at them. Just....barked. But then, I'd let him smell the stranger and he would get used to them.
Then, I got a brindle boxer. They were the funniest couple ever. Oreo was short, quick and smart. Rascal was just the opposite. He got big, clumsy, and wasn't that intelligent. But he was EXTREMELY sweet. The sweetest dog I've EVER had. Never EVER growled, barked, bit. Nothing. I think he suffered of bloat, though. He got rehomed very successfully. By a young married couple looking for a family pet. They had no children so nothing to worry about.
So here's Mr. Biggs. Nobody on here has been able to take him in so Rat Bones is may require me to bring him to the airport so he could fly to wherever he can be fostered temporarily until they find him a new home. Hopefully they'll be able to break him in from his shyness. |
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yogis mom

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| 03/01/2008 11:06 PM |
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OOPS! Saw that when I was typing (one word a minute) that the poster has said he wants to take the pup to the Humane SOciety??? HUH???? WTH? One... the Humane Society is just a shelter. Not ALL the dogs ever get adopted...so they are EUTHANIZED! Some (many) have HIGH KILL QUOTAS. WHY not accept the offers of re-homing from the posters on here??? SHEESH! They can get a dog from one side of the country to the other! See "Henry's Story"!!! Get cracking and get that little guy you say you care for into a happy full-time home!!! Good luck to all! |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 11:10 PM |
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| Please let someone take Mr. Biggs. Geez, I'll even send you $25 if you let someone from this board save him. Anything to get that puppy in to an environment where he has a chance to be healthy, trained and happy. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:10 PM |
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No other posters except the ones who helped Ratbones contact me, have offered to help much. And I appreciate all the help and support everybody on here has given me. There's hope for Mr. Biggs yet, yogis mom. Humane Society is the last resort, thanks to RatBones. |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 11:12 PM |
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| Ratbone is a great group. Let them help you!!! |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:12 PM |
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No need to try and bribe me. The fact that I'm even on the rescues is that I know he needs better. But also please understand, not everybody is willing or able to take him in that's on here. In fact, the majority probably couldn't even if they wanted to. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:13 PM |
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I definitely will. From what I have read, people would probably marry ratbones if they could. Great group they say. And from what smiles4life emailed me, it sounds great. If I had money I would donate probably thousands of dollars just to keep them going. |
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breshearsratterriers

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| 03/01/2008 11:20 PM |
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Okay, I may be sorry for this post later, but this is really starting to make me angry!! Pete, if your mom can't find the time to call Ratbone, then how is she going to find time to take him to the Humane Society??? You are not making any sense!! This is so sad!! How could you even ask how long it takes for a dog to start getting sick because of the worms??? It seems to me like you are enjoying us all freaking out over this!! Why don't you just sit your mom down explain to her that you can not care for the dog, she can not care for the dog and he needs to go to someone who will take care of him!! This is ridiculus!! The only one that is suffering is poor Mr Biggs!! Call Paula TOMORROW and let Ratbone take over!! It is only fair for Mr Biggs. If I lived near you I would have already picked him up and got him to a safe place. After this I would suggest that you not get another animal. It sounds to me like you don't have the finances or the time for an animal. I don't understand why you got him in the first place!! Give him a life that he deserves!! If you send him to a shelter, more than likely he will be euthanized. Why take the chance? Ratbones does not euthanize!! Not only that but I believe that the Humane Society charges to take in animals....to my knowledge Ratbone doesn't charge a penny!! PLEASE, wake up before it is too late for Mr. Biggs!! |
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yogis mom

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| 03/01/2008 11:36 PM |
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I agree with Brandy.....this drama has been going on for almost THREE weeks...from DAY ONE people were offering alternatives...including Guardianship where the rescue lets YOU keep the dog while they attempt to find a new home. I saw where someone even listed local (near you) rescue groups (means FOSTERING, NOT a shelter!) for you to call!!!!! WHY does your MOM have to call Ratbones, or any other rescue...aren't you old enough to use a phone? (Sorry...for that, but COME ON!) I have 2 sons...and they knew better than to get a pet...when in High School AND in college. It is the same as having a newborn then Toddler! You had to give up 2 dogs already.... so you are capable. Let someone here help you find the dog a home, move on with your life and studies..and baby sit other people's pets from now on. Easier...and you can send them back to their parents when you have other stuff to do!!! Get off your butt and get your dog some help! And get on with YOUR life! Soon you'll be driving and you think you have no time NOW??? Just wait!!!! |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:37 PM |
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I'm sorry you feel that way breshearsratteriers. I can understand your frustration.
Well, to set things straight: I have Paula's number and was already planning to have my mom call her tomorrow. I just got the number from the email she sent me.
Secondly, when I got Mr. Biggs I was available. I had an entire Christmas vacation ahead of me to help get me started. My sister pitched in in getting me started for a new member of the family. But I hope you do realize that there are many things out of anyone's control.
For example: the mortgage crisis. People don't think it'll happen to them until it does. Suddenly, the measely $1000 dollars a month adds up to $2000, then $3000, then suddenly you owe $4000 and they're sending you letters of refinancing or foreclosure. That's excluding the high electric bills, and the high gasoline prices that have effected EVERYONE. Especially if you're traveling about 100 miles to and from work everyday.
That takes car of finances.
Then there's not having time for him. I can't help it if my sister cannot take care of Mr. Biggs while she takes care of my 1 year old nephew. That's tedious and time consuming in and of itself. Plus, having the additional burden of walking, feeding, playing with a puppy. It's too much. I also cannot help it if I can't find a way home any sooner to be with him. Nor can I help it if I start a new semester with new classes which were surprisngly more difficult and time consuming than the previous semesters.
And as for today, I had to take my SAT today. I've been awake since 5 just because of anxiety and stress. I want a better future for myself too.
And to add to the fire, my nephew had begun getting sick after I got Mr. Biggs. Of course it wasn't Mr. Biggs himself, but the weather and the illnesses that have been flowing around. Being a close knit family, my nephew is one of my main concerns. If I had to choose between the life of a child or a poor puppy, I would take both if I could. But if only one was possible to rescue, of course it would be the human life.
Now. I had tried treating his worms before, as you already know. Unfortunately, that didn't work. And since then, as you've read above, money as continued to become tighter. I'm sure you know that DFW is a large area. It's by product is traveling miles and miles to get anywhere. To the store, to school, to work, to the gas station. Wherever. And again, theres that financial stuff sneaking up on one.
Now I don't want to be ranting on and on, but I don't want to be misjudged.
And if anyone wants to take in Mr. Biggs who lives in the DFW area who wouldn't mind filling up their car and coming here is more than welcome to take him in.
Thanks to all who have seriously tried helping. |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 11:40 PM |
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| I'm sorry for all the bad things in your life, Pete. But do something good for Mr. Biggs. Let Ratbones take him and save him. If your mom is too busy to call Paula, will you give Paula your number and let her call your house? |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:42 PM |
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And Yogis mom, Ive talked to Paula Via email. If y'all would like, I could forward it to each and every one of y'all. I am very much capable of talking to her on the phone. She asked to talk to my mom specifically since she is my "legal guardian" and since SHE will be the one to drive him to the nearest airport anyways.
And again, Paula is on the to-do list tomorrow besides reading, studying, making power points, outlines, researching, and all that crap that comes with high school. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:48 PM |
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I want to. I was actually going to see how much longer Mr. Biggs would maintain his health until he needed to see a vet. I would have incurred the expenses, no problem. I'm not about to have some people accuse me of being inhumane and cruel. |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/01/2008 11:51 PM |
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| Pete -- don't get upset. People on this board get very passionate about saving a dog in need. We all want the best for Mr. Biggs. You do. I do. Paula does. Yogis mom does. And the list could go on. Let's just find a way to get him to Ratbones. I remember how hectic high school was. You'll feel so much better when Ratbones has Mr. Biggs because you know he'll end up safe, healthy and in a great home. |
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pete343

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| 03/01/2008 11:57 PM |
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It's fine, I understand that too. That's the only reason I came here is because I know I could entrust Mr. Biggs onto them and they would take perfectly good care of him. I can't, we all should know that by now. I'm trying to get help. I have a pretty busy agenda , so do my parents. They wake up at 5 in the morning, leave at 6:30 AM, come back at 7:00 PM. I remember working that hard and long during the summer at the FW ZOO. It's not fun at all.
And again-- I will have my mom contact Paula since I will more than likely wreck if I ever attempted to drive from Crowley to DFW International Airport. That would be no fun, now would it? |
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yogis mom

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| 03/02/2008 12:11 AM |
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Ummm..Pete...I have not read any implications regarding your being cruel or inhumane. More DRAMA.
But...Frustration? yes.
I would hazard a guess that the people on this site are here because of their devotion to pets in general, but specifically to this breed.
And it frustrates people to see a dog needs a helping hand, initiated by it's owner, only to have those offers of help kind of dissed.
And everything you have stated, has been that you do NOT have TIME, MONEY, PATIENCE, FAMILIAL support...with those factors in place, do you feel you are capable of raising a human child? NO? Well, on a different level, but similar one, you are in the same situation having a pet. Similar responsibilities and abilities have to be in place.Or the pet suffers. (Unless it's a "Pet Rock"?!)
So..you have shown maturity and caring in admission of inability to care for the dog as needed and wanting to help him.
You have also shown IMMaturity in your ambivalence and playing around with "I might keep him, might take him to a shelter, might call rescues, might, might..." and all along several posters have offered to help, drive there, etc. yet you play the ambivalent game. Therein lies the mass frustration.
SO! S*%t or get off the pot as we southern belles say...and if someone in your area that is associated with Ratbones, or any other rescue, (or poster from here?!) is willing to come to your town,to your house and get the dog I HOPE you will assist them!
Enough is enough!
Good Luck to you and the pup!
I'm hitting the sack...driving Miss Daisy (the Savannah-Rescue) to her new "MOM" tomorrow! |
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Lucy's Mommy

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| 03/02/2008 12:11 AM |
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| If your mom is too busy to take him to the airport, I may be able to get the aunt of a friend of mine do it. The aunt lives in the Dallas area. I haven't asked her so I don't want to make promises, but I may be able to get her to do this if your mom can't. |
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Smiles4life

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| 03/02/2008 12:20 AM |
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Good evening or should I say morning, I wanted to post to let everyone know that Ratbone is here in the wings awaiting Pete's mom's call. When dealing with a 17yr old who still lives at home, it is best to get their input since they are the guardian. I hope those with children would agree. A dog cannot simply be flown anywhere. The dog will need to be up-to-date on shots as well as have a health certificate. If anyone is willing to help in this way I would suggest dealing with a local vet that Mr. Biggs owner can go to. He will need an airline approved crate and reservations to his location with the persons contact info (b/c they verify your ID when you go to pick him up). Some airlines will allow you do to COD. I don't know if the vet will give a health certificate if he has worms, but it costs nothing to ask the vet. If there is anyone near Crowley and can meet Mr. Biggs and Pete's mom to make arrangements, get vetting and airline travel set up I am all for it. I just have to use caution when I cannot do this all myself in person. I applaud everyone's concern as always and if you have any questions about me or how Ratbone works please feel free to contact me off line at smiles4lifepkn@yahoo.com. (Pete - the number I gave you is my cell number.) Again, thank you. |
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Paula Nowak Foster Mom, GA State Coordinator & More Adoptables: www.imageevent.com/smiles4life
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pete343

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| 03/02/2008 12:25 AM |
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No, ma'am, I simply stated that I did not want anyone to misjudge me of being so. As you have already done so.
Drama...had you heard about the drama that lies within this house, obscured from the outside word, this board would not bear any slight resemblance to it.
Now, frustration- yes. Enough is enough. I'm tired of cleaning up worm-infested poop and pee every morning because he can't hold himself. I'm tired of having him stain the carpet with urine, I'm tired of him shredding the corners. And so as not to add any more to my long list of frustrations, I will end here.
Yes, I admit, and have been admitting that I couldn't take care of him. Yes, I showed immaturity with my ambivalence by stating that I would like to give him another chance. And all along, I've been contacted by a single person who initially wanted to foster him. What happened? I believe she must have shown a bit of ambivalence when she stated that she could no longer take him in because of some personal issues. I respected that. Others have tried to come together to find a way find this poor creature another home without much success. Read the first two pages of this long board.
If there is something that remains ambigious, let me clarify. And once again, for the final time, I have acknowledged the FACT that I am incapable of taking care of him at this very moment and perhaps so until I graduate from high school June 3.
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pete343

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| 03/02/2008 12:27 AM |
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Okay, thank you Paula. I figured it was a cell phone or something of the sort. |
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| 03/02/2008 1:08 AM |
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No, ma'am, I simply stated that I did not want anyone to misjudge me of being so. As you have already done so.
Drama...had you heard about the drama that lies within this house, obscured from the outside word, this board would not bear any slight resemblance to it.
Now, frustration- yes. Enough is enough. I'm tired of cleaning up worm-infested poop and pee every morning because he can't hold himself. I'm tired of having him stain the carpet with urine, I'm tired of him shredding the corners. And so as not to add any more to my long list of frustrations, I will end here.
Yes, I admit, and have been admitting that I couldn't take care of him. Yes, I showed immaturity with my ambivalence by stating that I would like to give him another chance. And all along, I've been contacted by a single person who initially wanted to foster him. What happened? I believe she must have shown a bit of ambivalence when she stated that she could no longer take him in because of some personal issues. I respected that. Others have tried to come together to find a way find this poor creature another home without much success. Read the first two pages of this long board.
If there is something that remains ambigious, let me clarify. And once again, for the final time, I have acknowledged the FACT that I am incapable of taking care of him at this very moment and perhaps so until I graduate from high school June 3.
OMG, I cant believe I just read that.....Frusturated with cleaning up worm infested poop????? Try SUFFERING WITH WORM INFESTED POOP!!!!!!
I have no idea what is goin on in your personal life, but everyone has their own drama, and to act like people on this site have done something WRONG by notdropping everything and comeing to get YOUR DOG!!!???!!! HOW DARE YOU!
I am sorry ....I wasnt going to say anything but that post really made me angry.......
Please please, someone save this poor puppy.....
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~ Mary, Trixi and Toa's Mommy, Ratbone Rescues Database Manager and Applications Coordinator
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pete343

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| 03/02/2008 7:16 AM |
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For the record, treble02, you misunderstood me. Im not saying that people have done something WRONG by not being able to help. I was saying that I haven't declined anyone. The reason I'm still here waiting for help, which is the reason you all have gotten frustrated to begin with, is that nobody has been able to say with certainty that they could help. Only Paula from Ratbones.
Come on, you don't think that with all the drama that goes on here, with my extended family, at school, down the street, that I don't KNOW that people have their own drama? I am not socially deprived at all. lol
Poor Clinton, she probably feels sorry for the death of that police officer. And I feel sorry for that woman who's boyfriend killed her the other day. And about those 2 brave police officers in Fort Worth that rescued a man from a burning car. And what about those people who have to deal with road-side bombs and extremists, having to looking over their shoulder everyday because they're afraid they'll be next. And please don't forget Israel, Iran, Afghanistan, and most infamously of all, Iraq. |
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 03/02/2008 7:22 AM |
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Ok, I've been staying out of this one but have to say:
1. Your sister having a 1 yr. old baby doesn't mean she didn't have time for the pup. I raised a puppy when I had a toddler....while also working part time at a stable...and housetraining from a third floor apartment! And there are several others on here who've had babies and puppies at the same time...Sarah W. has twins and has raised 2 puppies successfully! So that's no excuse, the girl just doesn't want to help.
2. You should have spoken to your mother sooner and had her call Ratbones and do whatever was necessary to resolve the situation. Ratbones is willing to take this pup and give it a good life - and you/your mother can't even drive him to the freakin' airport which is 30 minutes away? Do you not drive? Or your mother? Get the vet certificate, crate, whatever is necessary (after your mother speaks with Ratbones) and get him to the airport or to a local volunteer and LET HIM GO.
3. This is a life we're talking about here. He is already sick and miserable. You chose to get a puppy, didn't work out, now chose to save him. Too bad if you're busy and stressed....think how he feels! You had the free will to acquire a puppy - he does not have the free will to save himself now. |
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