rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 10:59 AM |
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I have just spoken to Alisa about the little girl. She is up to date on her shots and she will be able to take her to the vet and get a General Health Certificate, hopefully tomorrow since her vet is closed today. After that she can take her to Salt Lake City and put her on a plane to Ft. Lauderdale Fl. If the crate and dog is 10-50 pounds it will cost $199.00 plus tax to fly her to me. I am willing to take her but I can't afford the fees for the flight after both Rattagan's surgery and Cammie's mange treatment.
Is there anyone who can help me out with the fees. I hate to ask but when the dog arrives she will have to be spayed immediately and to take care of that I can't pay for all the flight myself.
Please let us know if you are able or willing to help us with this little darling.
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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Sarah K
Terrier Terror
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| 02/18/2008 11:02 AM |
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| I will be willing to help, but can't do a pay pal....all I can do is send money snail mail. Not sure that is fast enough. Let me know. |
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Sarah
~ Mommy to Chrissy and Pepper (JackRat)
Chrissy and Pepper's Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/magicalmemories3980 |
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SkittlesMOM
Ratastic
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| 02/18/2008 11:03 AM |
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| put up the paypal info if you can... |
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rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 11:30 AM |
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We are not absolutely sure that she is going to come to me as yet. I just spoke to the girls mother and they have had several calls locally from people wanting the dog. She is going to call her vet tomorrow and will let me know after that what way we are going to go. The dog is potty trained. The dog belongs to the daughter and she is only 13 years old. I explained to the Mom that we were not trying to be judgemental and did not know that we were dealing with a 13 year old child. And that if a child does the posting then they need to let the people here know that they are dealing with a child. I think she understood after that. She is willing for me to take the dog if she can't find a home locally. My niece is in Utah and I'm calling her to see if she wants a dog for her girls. If nothing else she might take her until I can get her. I had to leave a message hopefully she will call me soon. I'll let everyone know if the dog is coming here and Thanks for your offers of help it is appreciated. I'll let you know ASAP. Probably tomorrow if she gets to the vet. My niece would take her but she is in an apartment where she can't have pets. If we do this and anyone wants to use paypal they can use the rescue donation page and PM me that you have donated for the flight.
PLEASE DO NOT DONATE UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT SHE IS COMING TO ME! Thanks everyone so very much. Blessings to you all. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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DaisysMom
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| 02/18/2008 11:32 AM |
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Thanks, Janie, for the update. It sounds as if, hopefully, one way or the other, that Tempe will be able to be rehomed and by-pass the shelter altogether which is fabulous!!!  Keep us posted. |
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Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom
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swatson6
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| 02/18/2008 11:35 AM |
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| Thanks for the update Janie, that is great! |
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Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan
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rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 11:47 AM |
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| I'll let everyone know when and if the dog will be sent to me. I hope to have good news from the Mother of JNO maybe tomorrow. She said she would call the vet then and let me know. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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NINNIE
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Hayden
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| 02/18/2008 1:27 PM |
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| I think it is absolutely amazing how people on this website are willing to donate money to help each other. However I am having trouble agreeing this time. To me having a rat terrier from so far away is a WANT because I'm sure there are ones that are much closer and more convenient to get. Things would be different if it were a case like Henry where death was imminent and no one was going to adopt. However in this case there are people in Utah who will adopt this puppy. Basically I am distinguishing between a WANT and a NEED and I can't see how there is a NEED for this dog so much that people have to donate money. In emergencies I think it's great we can help each other out, but this seems like its stepping over the line. Basically you can't afford to get the dog you WANT so maybe you should look closer to home or wait until you can afford it. We just bashed a girl last week about how she shouldn't own a puppy if she can't afford it. Can you afford THIS one? NO. Maybe you can afford one that doesn't need a plane ride and in that case go for it, BUT I don't think it's fair to ask people to give what little extra money they have just so you can have the puppy you WANT. |
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rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 1:54 PM |
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Posted By Hayden on 02/18/2008 1:27 PM
I think it is absolutely amazing how people on this website are willing to donate money to help each other. However I am having trouble agreeing this time. To me having a rat terrier from so far away is a WANT because I'm sure there are ones that are much closer and more convenient to get. Things would be different if it were a case like Henry where death was imminent and no one was going to adopt. However in this case there are people in Utah who will adopt this puppy. Basically I am distinguishing between a WANT and a NEED and I can't see how there is a NEED for this dog so much that people have to donate money. In emergencies I think it's great we can help each other out, but this seems like its stepping over the line. Basically you can't afford to get the dog you WANT so maybe you should look closer to home or wait until you can afford it. We just bashed a girl last week about how she shouldn't own a puppy if she can't afford it. Can you afford THIS one? NO. Maybe you can afford one that doesn't need a plane ride and in that case go for it, BUT I don't think it's fair to ask people to give what little extra money they have just so you can have the puppy you WANT.
Watch who you say can't afford the dog, you do NOT know my financial situation. But if you go shell out $1300 bucks for knee surgery for a dog then come back and talk to me. I want my dogs to have the BEST care possible, just because I'm a little short on funds because of surgery and then mange treatment for my puppy doesn't mean I can't afford the dog. If others want to help the dog what is your problem. BUT DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I CAN AFFORD, YOU HAVE NO IDEA ANYWAY.
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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rattagan's mom
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
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| 02/18/2008 1:56 PM |
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| FORGET IT EVERYONE! I QUIT! NO MORE HELP, NO MORE NOTHING FROM ME. I'LL FINISH THE FUND RAISER BUT THEN I'M GONE. TOO MANY ILL FEELINGS FOR ME TO CONTINUE TO EVEN TRY TO HELP. DON'T TRY TO HELP ME, I DON'T NEED IT OR WANT IT. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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Philo
Terrier Terror
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| 02/18/2008 1:57 PM |
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Hayden, it is not a matter of what we want or need, and in this case it is neither. It is a matter of this dogs future. The owners have tried to find a home and have not done so yet. Our finances are none of your business and I will thank you not to speculate about our ability to care for her. If necessary I can come up with the plane fair to get the dog to a safe location. Even it if to another foster home, I don't really care where she goes, as long as it is not to a shelter. While this may not be an "emergency" today, by time the dog is in a shelter it may be too late. Which would you rather have us to...ignore this dogs future or make an effort to save her? The $200 in air fare is a drop in the bucket, it is not a matter of the money. We can act as a community or not, it is up to the members here.
And just how to you know there are people in Utah will to take her? Do you have a contact name and number of someone who told you directly they will take her in? If so then you should you be doing all you can to help and letting us know about it.
And as far as distance goes, there was a man in Washington state that wanted to adopt our little Cameo, all the way from Florida. I didn't see you telling him it was too far, now did you?
So, to itterate, I do not WANT this dog, I do not NEED this dog. This dog NEEDS a home. Thank you for critizing us in our efforts to help. I always tell people constructive criticsim is welcome, constuctive means you have something to improve the situation, which you have not offered yet. |
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Rattie Daddy to Cameo, Nala Belle, Cutter & Rattagan
Foster Dad to Cricket
(aka Philo)
"Beauty such as this is a gift, and I'm often in awe of this world we've been given." Mrs Bonnie |
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Hayden
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| 02/18/2008 1:59 PM |
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| SHE WROTE THIS EARLIER!! : I just spoke to the girls mother and they have had several calls locally from people wanting the dog. HONESTLY PEOPLE I JUST THINK IF SHE WANTS TO SPEND DONATIONS ON GETTING A DOG SHE MIGHT AS WELL FIND ONE THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE RESCUED!! THIS WOULD BE A WASTE OF DONATIONS. IF EVERY OFFER FALLS THROUGH IN UTAH THEN FINE FLY HIM TO FLORIDA. |
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Hayden
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| 02/18/2008 2:05 PM |
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| On a calmer note all I was observing was that the dog has a lot of interest locally so flying it to Florida is unnecessary. I can tell she would provide a wonderful home for any dog. It was just be wise to make the donated money go as far as possible and if you can rescue 2 dogs for the $200 it would cost to unnecessarily fly the dog to Florida wouldn't you rather do that? |
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SkittlesMOM
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| 02/18/2008 2:37 PM |
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OK - normally I keep out of these..... but Hayden you have a tendency to reply to conversations about people trying to help out other dogs ( selflessly ) And judge what these people are doing.
I am more than willing to admit I would not do a quarter of the stuff that rattagan's mom has volunteered to do and the leg work to help with the things that were being worked out over the last week. I'm just wondering where you get off judging what she is trying to accomplish by helping this dog out.
Yes, if there is LOTS of local interest, it would be great if the dog stayed locally. But as of the initial post, this was not the case and how can you belittle her for stepping up and trying to help.
I'm sure that rattagan's mom and the mother of the initial poster can handle the in's and out's of this rescue - whether it be locally or across the country (as rat bones rescue does ALL the time) without your 2 cents.
If I should not have said anything, I apologize to the rest of the posters..... I don't usually get involved, but had to open my mouth this time.
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rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 2:41 PM |
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Sorry but you can't rescue 2 dogs for $200, not when adoption fees are $150 for an adult, and $175 for a puppy, need to get your facts straight.
My neice in Utah is looking for a home for the dog. Does that make you HAPPY Hayden? I don't want the dog but don't want to see it die, if that makes me wrong oh well I've been wrong before it won't be the first time. But the dog can be taken to the pound, killed whatever, but it will be on your shoulders not mine. I'm done with this whole thing and the site. I will finish the fund raiser but that is it. And thanks to you Miss MOUTH, I won't be a foster mom either. THERE, hope you're happy. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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Caesar & Julia's mom
Alpha Feist
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| 02/18/2008 2:41 PM |
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| Bless you Janie and Philo! I know all you were trying to do was help out this poor baby~ I think it was wonderful how you stepped up and offered to take Tempe in so she didn't have to spend even ONE night in a shelter!!! You both are such caring, wonderful people just trying to help...please don't let one bad apple be the reason for you leaving. With a group of people as big as rt.com is, not everyone is going to get along and play nice...we just have to ignore them and go on. There are far too many other wonderful, loving, caring people here that make up the difference!! Thank you both for putting Tempe's needs ahead of your own, and offering to help this poor baby out!!! Wish there were more people like you in this world~ God Bless you both!!! |
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Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia
"Don't count the days, make the days count..."
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rattagan's mom
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
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| 02/18/2008 2:43 PM |
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| Thank you Patty it is appreciated by me anyway. You are a sweetie. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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DaisysMom
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| 02/18/2008 2:43 PM |
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Well, as far as I can tell from everything I've read (and I believe I've read most of it) it appears that Janie (Rattagan's Mom) has made it quite clear she is willing to take in Tempe, but is waiting to see if any of the local interest in her actually comes through. She has actually spoken with the person attempting to rehome the dog. She is NOT insisting that she be THE one to get Tempe, only that she is willing to provide her with a great home should it come to that, or taking her to the Humane Society.
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Hayden
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| 02/18/2008 2:46 PM |
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| Apparently no one on this website has any common sense and those that do don't want to say anything. As I have said she sounds like a wonderful lady and does wonderful things for puppies. Everyone was just getting so excited and I wanted to take a step back and think about the situation. I also don't appreciate people saying such bad things about me. Just last week I volunteered to drive puppies half way across the country for anyone who was interested. I am a good person and was just using my common sense to get as many rat terriers into good homes as possible. People on this website sure do gang up on people if you aren't in the top inner circle of rat-terrier.com friends. |
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rattytatty
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| 02/18/2008 2:46 PM |
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Patty.... I'm right there with you...
Let's all be supportive of ANY efforts to save a dog's life and give ANY dog a chance at getting a good home... regardless of who is involved or where the individual lives.
I never thought it was Janie's intent to fly this dog to Florida if there was someone locally who was willing and committed to take the dog and give it a good home.
In fact, she even said... "do not donate until I know when OR IF I will be getting the dog". But that having been said... it is truly the decision of the individuals on this forum as to how they choose to spend (or not spend) their money.
Can you try to be more supportive please?
I think we all would appreciate it. |
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rattytatty
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| 02/18/2008 2:48 PM |
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Posted By Hayden on 02/18/2008 2:46 PM
Apparently no one on this website has any common sense and those that do don't want to say anything. As I have said she sounds like a wonderful lady and does wonderful things for puppies. Everyone was just getting so excited and I wanted to take a step back and think about the situation. I also don't appreciate people saying such bad things about me. Just last week I volunteered to drive puppies half way across the country for anyone who was interested. I am a good person and was just using my common sense to get as many rat terriers into good homes as possible. People on this website sure do gang up on people if you aren't in the top inner circle of rat-terrier.com friends.
I do believe you are way out of line....
and I haven't a clue who the "top inner circle of rat-terrier.com friends" are... |
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Spanky's Mom
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| 02/18/2008 2:49 PM |
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Posted By Caesar & Julia's mom on 02/18/2008 2:41 PM
Bless you Janie and Philo! I know all you were trying to do was help out this poor baby~ I think it was wonderful how you stepped up and offered to take Tempe in so she didn't have to spend even ONE night in a shelter!!! You both are such caring, wonderful people just trying to help...please don't let one bad apple be the reason for you leaving. With a group of people as big as rt.com is, not everyone is going to get along and play nice...we just have to ignore them and go on. There are far too many other wonderful, loving, caring people here that make up the difference!! Thank you both for putting Tempe's needs ahead of your own, and offering to help this poor baby out!!! Wish there were more people like you in this world~ God Bless you both!!!
Well said and I totally agree!!
Janie & Phil, you are the two most caring & loving people I have ever seen. |
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When you own a Rattie....you KNOW you are in your right mind 
THE MEANING OF RESCUE
Now that I'm home, bathed, settled and fed,
All nicely tucked in my warm new bed.
I'd like to open my baggage
Lest I forget,
There is so much to carry -
So much to regret.
Hmm... Yes there it is, right on the top
Let's unpack Loneliness, Heartache and Loss,
And there by my leash hides Fear and Shame.
As I look on these things I tried so hard to leave -
I still have to unpack my baggage called Pain.
I loved them, the others, the ones who left me,
But I wasn't good enough - for they didn't want me.
Will you add to my baggage?
Will you help me unpack?
Or will you just look at my things -
And take me right back?
Do you have the time to help me unpack?
To put away my baggage,
To never repack?
I pray that you do - I'm so tired you see,
But I do come with baggage -
Will you still want me?
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SkittlesMOM
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| 02/18/2008 2:52 PM |
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Janie - you are welcome -and I second Diane on the last post - don't let the bad apples keep you from what you feel in your heart you need to do.
Had to double check - she played "devil's advocate" on the buddy issue too. Sometimes we just have to ignore the bad to have the good.
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rattagan's mom
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| 02/18/2008 2:52 PM |
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Posted By Caesar & Julia's mom on 02/18/2008 2:41 PM
Bless you Janie and Philo! I know all you were trying to do was help out this poor baby~ I think it was wonderful how you stepped up and offered to take Tempe in so she didn't have to spend even ONE night in a shelter!!! You both are such caring, wonderful people just trying to help...please don't let one bad apple be the reason for you leaving. With a group of people as big as rt.com is, not everyone is going to get along and play nice...we just have to ignore them and go on. There are far too many other wonderful, loving, caring people here that make up the difference!! Thank you both for putting Tempe's needs ahead of your own, and offering to help this poor baby out!!! Wish there were more people like you in this world~ God Bless you both!!!
Thank you hon, but I can't stay anymore. First the stuff last week and now this. My nerves are shot, all I do is cry, which I hate to do. I can't take this any more. And there might be more people like us in the world but most are to scared to step up. I can't blame them, look what happens every time I try to someone or some critter. I can't take it, I'm sorry, but I can't. It hurts too much. Now I won't even be a foster mom because no good deed goes unpunished and I can't take more punishment for trying to be a good person. Now other dogs have to suffer because they won't have another foster home to put them in. That really hurts because I was so looking forward to it. But I can't sit back and continue to take this kind of verbal assault. It will be better with me gone then no one will have to worry about me trying to help any thing or anyone.
Thanks for your kind words and thoughts. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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DaisysMom
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| 02/18/2008 2:58 PM |
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Well, I'll agree with you that one, Hayden, apparently SOME people don't have any common sense. It is perfectly, crystal clear that there was NO attempt to hurry up and fly this dog across the country at the expense of $200.00 IF other arrangements could be made. And the original idea to ask for donations or to use the overage on the Ratbones donations already made, wasn't Janie's idea to start with.
Janie: You know how I feel about leaving because of something someone (anyone) says here. I respect your, as I have respected others, need to go if you really find it necessary for your peace of mind. It is a shame to be certain. I hope you keep in touch with some of us and perhaps revisit coming back here when you are able. I have a bit of a thick-skin but realize not everyone does. (((HUGS))) |
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dogparkdawn
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| 02/18/2008 2:59 PM |
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Hey Happy President's Day. Can we lighten up here a bit. This is the way many good, fun boards go to the wayside and loose members.
We all have opinions. I don't think Kim mean't any harm to anyone. I'm sure there is a way to patch things up. After all it's all bout the babies! Now Janie, what have you got to loose to stick around? |
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Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.
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Caesar & Julia's mom
Alpha Feist
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| 02/18/2008 3:00 PM |
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| I know how hard it is when there are people out there critizing(sp) you for trying to do good...but I know you're a strong women and I wouldn't let those few people who love to judge others, be the reason that you should stop anything that you have your heart set on. Is it fair to those ratties in need of foster homes?? I think you would be a great foster mom~ don't let anyone change your mind about doing what you love!!! Is it fair to us, who I like to call your friends here on rt.com, to leave us? Just be the better person here and hold your head up high. We're here for you and love you ~ I, for one wouldn't leave this site for anyone! (well except if Lance asked me too...hehehe) You belong here!! (((HUGS))) |
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Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia
"Don't count the days, make the days count..."
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Philo
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| 02/18/2008 3:01 PM |
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And there you have it...the lesson here, as posted before...
No good deed goes unpunished.
Janie has suffered through so much of this in her life that it isn't fair. She has this genetic defect that makes her want to help, even total strangers, I've seen it over and over again.
Well, she's at home, in tears and there is nothing anyone can say or do to make it better now.
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Rattie Daddy to Cameo, Nala Belle, Cutter & Rattagan
Foster Dad to Cricket
(aka Philo)
"Beauty such as this is a gift, and I'm often in awe of this world we've been given." Mrs Bonnie |
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Azrats
Obsessed
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| 02/18/2008 3:05 PM |
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| ((((HUGS))))) The Janie. ((((HHUGGGGSS)))) |
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And as we lie beneath the stars
We realize how small we are
If they could love like you and me
Imagine what the world could be~Nickleback
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