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mischief817


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08/16/2007 5:49 PM  

Hi, I am new here.  I have owned a Rat Terrier ( Minnie Mouse-I am a huge Disney fan!!) since December of 2001.  I have never thought to look and line and check to see if there is a chat forum for Rat Terrier owners. (Does that make me a bad mom?)  I have been reading all of the info on this sight and have found that my rat is so simluar to everyones in some way.  She does have a new behavior and I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice....

When we got her she was a puppy and was pretty much raised by our five year old lab mix.  They did everything together to even being kenneled together during the day when we went places.  In January we had to put the lab to sleep due to health issues.  Minnie seemed fine and only looked for her for about a week.  She loved her new freedom and the fact she got away with a little more that usual.  She was even doing really good in her kennel byherself until recently, almost eight months later.  She has now started peeing and pooping in her kennel and they stepping in it and kicking it all over the place including out of the kennel. (No matter if we are gone for half an hour to a couple of hours.) I hate being mad at her but I am so tired of cleaning out the kennel and the wall and the floor....any advice.

 

Thanks so much

 

DaisysMom


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08/16/2007 5:56 PM  
First: Welcome to the site and no, you're not a bad mommy for not thinking there might be a site like this - who would ever guess such a fabulous place full of rattie lovers could exist?

Second: My condolences on the passing of your lab mix.

Now, as to the recent crate issues. You're right in that it seems a little odd fo her to start it now. The first thing I would do is have her checked by the vet for any possible health issues. After that possibility has been eliminated (and I hope it is), if it were I, I would go back to the way you train a dog to a crate who's never experienced it before. Block it off (if it was big enough for both of them, it's probably fairly large) so that it is only big enough for her to lie down and turn around. Dogs instinctly hate to potty where they must sleep so you can use that to your advantage. Make sure she is on a feeding schedule and is given ample opportunity to completely eliminate before it is time for her to be crated.

Welcome again and be sure and share some pics

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

ClareClaymore


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08/16/2007 6:13 PM  
Hey Welcome to this site you will so fall in love here with all the Ratties. Sorry about your lab mix I don't have any advice for ya on this subject for you because I just started Crate training yesterday. But as Daisy's mom mentioned above I would try. Lots of valuable insight. Welcome again.
BonitaKaz


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08/16/2007 6:26 PM  
First off: Welcome to the site!!!!

I agree with Tracey. Maybe the extra room, plus the fact that she's been able to get away with more lately is finally catching up. I know we all hate to start all over again, but I think it may work.

*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika!
mischief817


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08/16/2007 9:05 PM  
I have moved her to a new crate one that is smaller. She is such a schedule dog so she is very predictable. It is almost like she is mad at me for something........as you all know they have an attitude all their own. Nothing has changed in her life either in the last six months.....I am just so puzzled....
DaisysMom


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08/16/2007 9:13 PM  
Hopefully the smaller crate will help. I would still recommend a vet check just to rule out a physical/health reason for her actions. IMO, dogs rarely "think" like we do. It is highly unlikely that she is "mad" and saying to herself: I'll show her by pooping and kicking it everywhere, then she'll know. (You know?)

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

mischief817


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08/16/2007 9:29 PM  
I know....I like to think that it is something as simple as she is mad at me. Actually I have checked with her vet and her last nail trim, and they think that she is still adjusting to the lab being gone. They told me to watch her. We will deal I was just wondering if anyone has had this trouble before. I guess I am one to have funny acting dogs....my lab was a "goof" also.
DaisysMom


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08/16/2007 9:32 PM  
Do you think adding another dog into the house might help? Does she get along well with other dogs that she meets?

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

mischief817


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08/16/2007 9:40 PM  
I have to active little boys 2 1/2 and almost 5....adding another dog right now would probably send me to the nut house. She gets a lot of exposure to dogs with family and a kennel that she gets to go to when we take weekend trips. (Has been doing this for over a year) How about an attention thing....I have to spend most of my day with my focus on my boys......maybe I need to make sure I spend more time paying attention to her also...not that she is ignored. My five year old bought her a toy at the store tonight and we were all playing with her after dinner tonight. We will have to see how tomorrow goes.....thanks for all the info
DaisysMom


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08/16/2007 9:45 PM  
No problem - that's why were here first and foremost Plus all the fun, pics, stories, etc.!!!!

Attention could be an issue. What about exercise? Do you take her on walks ? I know it can be hard with 2 little ones, but often a structured 1/2 - 45 min. walk once, preferably twice a day where she is being properly walked in the "heel" position can go a long way towards working and exercising not only her body, but her mind as well.

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

rattytatty


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08/16/2007 10:38 PM  
Posted By mischief817 on 08/16/2007 9:05 PM
I have moved her to a new crate one that is smaller. She is such a schedule dog so she is very predictable. It is almost like she is mad at me for something........as you all know they have an attitude all their own. Nothing has changed in her life either in the last six months.....I am just so puzzled....



Mischief817 -- Let me assure you that your rattie is not mad at you.  They do not experience emotions the same as humans do. Life can change drastically for a dog who loses the companionship of another dog. We don't know how much dogs understand about death, but many dog lovers have experienced a dog who became lethargic, upset, or even ill after a dog companion dies. It can be heart breaking, just when you are also grieving the loss yourself.

You may now have a former leader dog without a follower. Or you may have a former follower dog without a canine leader. You will need to help your dog find the way to a healthy new position in the social order.

I understand that you have small children, but TRY to create "rituals"  the dog can look forward to each day. Spend 15 minutes grooming the dog or, if the dog has short hair, giving it a rubdown.  Using your positive training, teach your  dog a little trick or-even better-a little task the dog can do for you in your daily routine. The genuine pleasure you will take in the dog's help will come through clearly to the dog. Play games together, such as hide and seek.  I agree you should exercise your dog... make sure she is "empty" when you crate her... and make sure the crate is small enough.

I'm sorry for your loss.  Many of us on the forum have "been there" and it's no fun.  Part of loving is losing, unfortunately... and it hurts.  It could be that your furbaby for some strange reason is just having difficulty adjusting and is needing some special attention. 

mischief817


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08/17/2007 7:44 AM  
Thank you for the info...it has all been so helpful!!
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