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hipkittie


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Newbie
08/14/2007 10:53 AM  

My 6 month old, Ellie, wont let me get her harness on her. I have hold her down and force it on her. It's getting worse and worse. She loves being outside and she knows that's what it means so I'm curious if she wants to stay out longer. It fits her perfect so I know it's not a comfort issue. I'm new to to the dog world and I've only have her for a week and a half. She knows some signals and commands from her previous owners but the harness is our only real problem at the moment. Please help!

 

-nicole

Natasha


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/14/2007 10:56 AM  
Hi welcome to the forums! am not much good on this subject but i am sure our other expierienced member might have some advice for you ^-^
DaisysMom


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08/14/2007 11:01 AM  
Welcome to you and Ellie Do you know what her previous owners were like? Perhaps she for some reason associates the harness with something negative that happened? What kind of harness is it and is it one that came with her from her previous owner?

Here are my thoughts, for what they are worth. One: Buy a different harness, preferably one of a different type altogether, just in case she is associating the harness she now has with something negative. Two: Be very calm and matter-of-fact when it comes time to put the harness on. Do not console her, sweet talk her, etc. Just approach it with a calm "ok, this is what we're doing and that's that" attitude. If you console her or otherwise offer her some type of response when she is in an agitated, upset state of mind you will only reinforce her negativity to the harness because she will think your consolation means there IS something to be upset about (if that makes sense to you). Three: If you are able to get the harness on and she seems to be in a calm state while wearing it, then praise her, pet her, maybe offer her a treat - so that she begins to see that wearing the harness and being calm while doing so please you - these dogs live to please.

Good luck and let us know how things are progressing. Why did her previous owners give her up? Whatever the reason, bless you for taking her in and giving her a home. We want to see pics, of course!!!

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

rattytatty


Newbie
Newbie
08/14/2007 11:04 AM  
I prefer collars over harnesses... especially if the dog has never had anything around it's neck yet. Is she six months old and never had a collar on? Or... has she just never had a harness on? (either/or?) Once the dog becomes comfortable with a VERY lightweight collar, you can move to a harness. It's personal preference... and the advice Tracey has given you is good advice regardless of which route you choose.
ClareClaymore


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Newbie
08/14/2007 11:09 AM  
I have a collar on Opel every day and I try her with a harness maybe 10-15 mins a day to get use to it i just let her wear it no force of leashing it. She is slowly accepting the harness but its been two weeks this info is great I think I will try these approach I was sweet talking her and stuff now I will try the Matter of fact approach.
Lucy's Colleen


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
08/14/2007 12:01 PM  
I would try to stick to a collar if she is that bothered by the harness. These dogs are very sensitive and might develop and issue if they are continually being forced into something they absolutely hate. Or like others have said, maybe try a different type of harness. Maybe one that doesn't have to be pulled over their head, but can be snapped around the neck.

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rattytatty


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Newbie
08/14/2007 1:10 PM  
Bailey has chewed 3 harnesses... two from Petsmart (nylon) and one Lupine that I ordered. I know that the Lupine harness will be replaced at no charge... but why bother if he's just going to chew it up again? I have NO CLUE how he manages to do it... but I'm done with harnesses.

Now when we go somewhere in the car... I take twine string and tie all four legs to the seatbelt... works very well.
hipkittie


Newbie
Newbie
08/15/2007 12:06 AM  

Thank you so much for the great advice. I'm going to look into a different collar. She wears one all the time around the house but I think if she was being sneaky she should easily slide out of it. The snap collar is a great plan and I think we'll try that. She didn't come with a harness and this is the second one we've gone through.

I got her from a friend who breeds them. She was given to an elderly lady to keep company but the woman was far more fond of her cats and didn't understand why she wanted to eat the cat food and sleep in the cat's bed. hehe.  She's a pure bred and the runt of the litter. I love her. She's absolutely a hoot. I was worried that'd I'd fail as an owner but I'm impressed daily by what she's learning. Her bathroom behaviors are always improving and she's starting to pick up on sit. She's crate trained but I'm trying to get her to learn when I leave for work to go in there. I can trick her at times but if anyone has a good way to get her to willingly go in I'd be greatly appreciative.

I am on here daily reading advice. I am so thrilled there is such a wealth of accessible knowledge! Thanks!!!!

I will get pictures of her up in the near future.

-Nicole and Ellie

 

bigbadfisher


Rattie
Rattie
08/16/2007 10:47 AM  
Regarding getting her to go into the kennel on command. I'm proud to say that our rattie Sheila does this better then any other command. Even the vet was impressed when she entered the kennel on command from the table!

I don't know that we used any single trick other then being very consistent in our request. A single command ("kennel" in our case) along with a pointed finger. Sometimes it was done during other command training - so we'd go from sit to down to kennel, and in other cases it was the only one we worked on. I tried hiding treats inside the kennel or even showing her that I was putting one inside, but the results on that were mixed. I think the real secret to our success is that Sheila hears the command multiple times during the day and is never allowed to ignore it or disobey it. Yes at times she takes a longer route to the kennel, but she ends up in there and that's the important thing to me. There are even some mornings when she sees me getting my keys and wallet and heads over to the kennel without being asked (but then stands just outside it just in case I change my mind!)
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