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nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 10:32 AM  

In three weeks (boy time is going so sloooooowly), we will be getting our little boy.

This is my first time raising two pups simultaneously. Is it better to have individual crates, or can they share one?

JenMax


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
07/13/2007 10:36 AM  

We only have Max but I would say 2 crates


Jenny - Max's sister

joyluvsratties


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 10:36 AM  

I used to keep my apart, but they wanted to be together.  As far as from a training standpoint, I don't know.


*Joy

**We may not have it all together, but together we have it all**
nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 10:38 AM  
Wow, you ladies are FAST!
Ok...so I'd better get another crate. Thanks
DaisysMom


Moderator
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07/13/2007 10:38 AM  
They definitely each need their own crate. Though Penny is small and only 5 mos old, she is still larger and more mature than your new little guy will be. A dog's crate is supposed to be it's own special sanctuary and it's not a good idea for them to have to share - in fact, it can have dangerous consequences.


Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 10:41 AM  
Posted By DaisysMom on 07/13/2007 10:38 AM
They definitely each need their own crate. Though Penny is small and only 5 mos old, she is still larger and more mature than your new little guy will be. A dog's crate is supposed to be it's own special sanctuary and it's not a good idea for them to have to share - in fact, it can have dangerous consequences.



Makes perfect sense. Okie-dokie...I'm going to order a new crate.

Thanks all!

swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
07/13/2007 10:56 AM  
Nothing more to add but Good Luck!!! (I agree, 2 crates)

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



jeremy


Rattie
Rattie
07/13/2007 11:40 AM  
I agree. 2 crates, especially if one pup is already accustomed to his own. A friend of mine is raising Beagle sisters & at 8 months old they have gotten into some serious dominance battles (drawing blood). She kept them in 1 crate, but was forced to separate them for their safety. Best to have them supervised when together anyway.
nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 11:47 AM  
Posted By jeremy on 07/13/2007 11:40 AM
I agree. 2 crates, especially if one pup is already accustomed to his own. A friend of mine is raising Beagle sisters & at 8 months old they have gotten into some serious dominance battles (drawing blood). She kept them in 1 crate, but was forced to separate them for their safety. Best to have them supervised when together anyway.



Yikes!!! That's pretty scary. I ordered a new crate, glad I asked.

BTW, Jeremy...bandit reminds me of what our new guy looks like

nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/13/2007 11:47 AM  
Posted By jeremy on 07/13/2007 11:40 AM
I agree. 2 crates, especially if one pup is already accustomed to his own. A friend of mine is raising Beagle sisters & at 8 months old they have gotten into some serious dominance battles (drawing blood). She kept them in 1 crate, but was forced to separate them for their safety. Best to have them supervised when together anyway.



Yikes!!! That's pretty scary. I ordered a new crate, glad I asked.

BTW, Jeremy...bandit reminds me of what our new guy looks like

Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
07/13/2007 12:10 PM  
Someone on here posted about 2 dogs crated with each other and one killed or badly hurt the other one. Before that I would have said 2 dogs that got along would be ok in one crate but after reading that - definitely 2 crates!

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
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http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
07/13/2007 12:16 PM  
Yeah, I remember that post as well. I don't think it was ratties, but another breed of dog, but still it's not worth the risk.

I think if at some point after they're both trained and older, if you find them sleeping together in a crate and they are both happy choosing to do that, that's one thing. I would just never "put" them together and shut the door. And never do that and leave. You just never know what might happen.

I also think even if there was a way to guarantee they woldn't harm one another, it's not that great of an idea. Even two very young pups who are siblings I would crate separately if only for the fact that while you want them to bond, you do not want them to overbond with another dog to the exclusion of the humans in the family. I have a friend who has this problem with two labs she adopted from the same litter. They are much close to one another then to any of the humans and, I believe, see themselves as a kind of "small pack" within the family's pack.

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
07/13/2007 12:56 PM  

No, as I remember it wasn't ratties but maybe Boston Terriers? Doesn't matter the breed, just not worth the risk that they could hurt each other.

And ya know I should have known better than to ever think it would be ok because as a horseperson I know NEVER to shut 2 horses in the same stall, even if they are "buddies" because they can still into a "argument".  With horses if you put them in a too-small enclosure the dominant one can get the other "pinned" against the wall and really kick them badly. 


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
Susan


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
07/15/2007 7:54 PM  
Yup it was my Bostons and One killed the other. Two crates is best! I had five pups at once here recently and everybody got their own crate. I will sometimes put two in a crate to go to the vets or travel in the car. but not ever when they are left alone at home. They all get along but like the horses they get into arguements and you never know how it will end.

ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH OVERDOING Mom of eight, only three left at home! Pack leader to ten ratties: Maggie, Mysty, Berry, Simon, Ceecee and five puppies, Star,Sari, Bluebelle, Double stuf,and Snortie. As well as Ginger the Border Collie and a herd of turkeys!
michelle


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
07/15/2007 7:57 PM  

Two crates would be the best thing.


michelle, mom to Sydney (JRT), Sonic (Rattie), Buddy(Jack-Rat) and Proud mom to Army son, Jordan

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893222 Sydney
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893220 Sonic
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/901405 Buddy



nycmom


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/15/2007 8:00 PM  
Posted By Susan on 07/15/2007 7:54 PM
Yup it was my Bostons and One killed the other. Two crates is best! I had five pups at once here recently and everybody got their own crate. I will sometimes put two in a crate to go to the vets or travel in the car. but not ever when they are left alone at home. They all get along but like the horses they get into arguements and you never know how it will end.



I'm so sorry about that happening. I cannot imagine how tramautized you were.

michelle_custer


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
07/15/2007 11:46 PM  
I have two puppies domino and tank but have two crates was gonna put them in one but domino is alot older and needs his sleep and tank likes to play before he goes to bed when hes in with domino and tank keeps him up so thats why i got two crates and plus its better to have two then one !


My Rats are my babies and I wouldnt trade them for anything in the world








rattytatty


Newbie
Newbie
07/16/2007 9:31 PM  
I would definitely advise that two separate crates be used... each dog needs its own space and privacy.
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