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Subject: RE: How to stop barking?
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Rattie
Rattie
12/31/2009 2:17 AM RE: How to stop barking?  
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JUWECO


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/31/2012 9:52 AM RE: How to stop barking?  
I too have similar issues with my rattie and her sister. We have taken them to stores, parks, on walks, to obedience training, doggie day care, etc. for socialization but they are really reactive. Our rattie in particular is very protective of anything she perceives as her space. She still barks furiously at our perfectly nice next door neighbors when they are in their own yard minding their own business. We've lived next door to them for almost 4 years and they have been introduced to the neighbors. It is embarrassing. as you say Philosopher.

I have read through many of the posts on this forum for ideas and have tried desensitizing the dogs, tried to train "quiet" or "no bark" and attempted to train them to bark on command as an alternative with little success. It seems like when the dogs are excited they can't take in any other input to focus on me or treats, etc. Their fizzy little brains just tell them to bark. I hope others on the board have suggestions for us. I plan on getting the book "At the Other End of the Leash" to see if I can get some new ideas.
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Lucylu


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
08/31/2012 12:44 PM RE: How to stop barking?  
I have tried everything, and I think the best solution is ear plugs and cold beverage!! Seriously.
I have tried just about everything, even had training specifically for barking. I was told by a Reikki pet trainer that I should thank Lucy for alerting me to danger and that is all she needed to do. I do thank her sometimes, and she does stop sometimes (but I think it's because Thankyou start with a T, and so does Treat..so she gets confused but stops just in case-that is my theory).
Unfortunately the traditional and popular remediest to squirting water to cans of coins have also been in vain, and of course with four it's a domino affect, and usually the other three don't even know what they are barking at.

So, my only advice is to keet saying "quiet" and demand it, but it has to be every single time to show any kind of result. Repeating the word quiet if they don't obey the first time will only undermine. So when i think I have reached my limit, I say "quiet" and stand menacing in front of them. It does work...mine still bark the other times like lunatics for the majority of time.

Layla
Mommy to Lucy, Fiona, Kip, Cassie, and Angel Sally
Rest in Peace my sweet Sally (June 4, 1998-October 18, 2013)
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rattagan's mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
08/31/2012 1:51 PM RE: How to stop barking?  
I'm gonna go off the wall here and tell you my solution. We have 5 ratties and two that can be impossbily loud mouthed so it sets the others off. When someone comes to the door, comes in etc., it is often hard to get 5 dogs to shut up. I finally got tired of yelling shut up, quiet, hush, what have you. When one day I was in my local CVS Pharmacy and happened to walk down their "As Seen On TV" aisle and saw a little white box called a "Bark Off" for 10 bucks. I bought it and the batteries for it and brought it home. Let me tell you it Works! I use it on the lowest setting, and it is a sound only the dogs hear, but mine hate it so much that now all I have to do is pick up the box and say Quiet and all is well. I don't even have to turn it on anymore. It scares my littlest one really bad and she needs comfort after I use it but it does work for my pack. So if you can't find it in stores near you go online to As Seen On TV and you'll find it.

Janie, Mom to the Palm Bay Rat Pack
Rest in peace our darling Girl Baby, Cameo Nora 10/24/07-11/06/09
Rest in peace Cutter Bug Gotcha 8/2/08 Died 11/17/09
Rest in Peace Rattagan Lee 2/16/1997-3/29/11 Rest in Peace Jack Goodboy 11/27/00-11/2/14
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rattagan's mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
08/31/2012 1:53 PM RE: How to stop barking?  
PS.. Each time they bark, the Bark Off makes the sound so they get quiet pretty quick to make it stop.

Janie, Mom to the Palm Bay Rat Pack
Rest in peace our darling Girl Baby, Cameo Nora 10/24/07-11/06/09
Rest in peace Cutter Bug Gotcha 8/2/08 Died 11/17/09
Rest in Peace Rattagan Lee 2/16/1997-3/29/11 Rest in Peace Jack Goodboy 11/27/00-11/2/14
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JUWECO


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/31/2012 6:00 PM RE: How to stop barking?  
Posted By rattagan's mom on 08/31/2012 1:51 PM
I'm gonna go off the wall here and tell you my solution. We have 5 ratties and two that can be impossbily loud mouthed so it sets the others off. When someone comes to the door, comes in etc., it is often hard to get 5 dogs to shut up. I finally got tired of yelling shut up, quiet, hush, what have you. When one day I was in my local CVS Pharmacy and happened to walk down their "As Seen On TV" aisle and saw a little white box called a "Bark Off" for 10 bucks. I bought it and the batteries for it and brought it home. Let me tell you it Works! I use it on the lowest setting, and it is a sound only the dogs hear, but mine hate it so much that now all I have to do is pick up the box and say Quiet and all is well. I don't even have to turn it on anymore. It scares my littlest one really bad and she needs comfort after I use it but it does work for my pack. So if you can't find it in stores near you go online to As Seen On TV and you'll find it.



Thanks for that idea.  We have used a similar device from Petsafe and it shuts up my Pug/Italian Greyhound immediately.  She does not like that sound at all.  Dandelion refuses to be quiet though and I know she can hear it becauses she looks at it quizzically the first time it makes the sound.  Maybe I should try the Bark Off model to see if that works on her. 

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rattagan's mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
09/01/2012 7:29 AM RE: How to stop barking?  
And the Bark Off has two settings too, hi and low. Maybe one of those will work for her. It works on all 5 of ours.

Janie, Mom to the Palm Bay Rat Pack
Rest in peace our darling Girl Baby, Cameo Nora 10/24/07-11/06/09
Rest in peace Cutter Bug Gotcha 8/2/08 Died 11/17/09
Rest in Peace Rattagan Lee 2/16/1997-3/29/11 Rest in Peace Jack Goodboy 11/27/00-11/2/14
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jaydenh


Obsessed
Obsessed
09/03/2012 9:02 PM RE: How to stop barking?  
Teaching Jack the quiet comment has changed my world. He is an alarm barker and we live next to a chihuahua who barks at EVERYTHING and doesn't stop barking until the "intruder" is gone. His owner claims he's untrainable, but she also tends to have friends over late, and after a few drinks they like to goad the chihuahua into barking by howling at him, so I'm skeptical about how hard she tried to train him. I put off training quiet for a while because I thought it was going to be impossible with the chihuahua nearby, but it really wasn't that hard. The key was to keep high value treats in my pocket all the time so I was ready to train whenever there was something going on outside. It took a couple of sessions before he picked up on what I was asking for, and then after that I would extend the amount of time he had to be quiet before he got the treat. Now he's pretty good about stopping barking even if the chihuahua is going full blast. And a couple of weeks ago, he actually woke me up in the middle of the night because someone was out in the courtyard. When I turned on the lights, the person immediately left -- so he may have alerted me to a genuine intruder. He still occasionally gets over-excited. Right now, I'm working on getting him to stop barking when I'm at the door with a delivery person. It takes him a little longer, but he does it.

It's paying off too. My building's maintenance guy has commented that he noticed Jack stops barking pretty quickly. I still treat him every time he obeys. I'm not so much worried about training him to be quiet without a reward. If his worst vice is begging with silence, I'm a happy person.

The trainer we work with advised both a hand signal and a verbal command because she said when dogs are excited they can do better with a visual cue (I do a finger to the lips). Also, we ended up not needing it, but if Pixie is too wound up in real-world situations, the trainer showed me how to train using an iPad or computer download -- like a door bell sound -- to trigger barking so that I could then train quiet. It took a little trial and error, but Jack would start barking to the Volkswagon commercial with the dogs barking the Darth Vader theme song.

Jayden
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JessRocks


Rattie
Rattie
10/25/2012 3:48 AM RE: How to stop barking?  
I guess I'm lucky, Frankenstein's a pretty quiet puppy. He'll bark once for "let me up/down," and he'll bark at neighbourhood dogs if he hears them while he's inside.

My sister's Pom, Jack, will stop barking when you point at him, then put your finger to your lips. (We use hand-signals because he's deaf, but you could probably just as easily say "No bark," or something to that effect.) Reward her once she's quiet. You could also try saying "Speak" when you see her go to bark, then treat her. Then she'll start to think, "Hey, if I only bark when she tells me too, I get treats! Nice!" You also don't want to discourage barking completely, because there are times when she should have to. (Ie: Someone's at the door.) Just let her bark x-amount of times, acknowledge it (look out the window, for example,) then give the command. (That might not even be necessary down the road, as she learns that you trust her, appreciate her guard-dog skills, and will do something about it- ie: make that awful Purolator man go away.)
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