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Snowfairy


Newbie
Newbie
09/07/2008 6:00 PM  

What does your rat terrier wear?

I hope soon to be adopting a young "special needs" Rattie from rescue. (Here is my first post about him-- if I've got links figured out.)

For the first chunk of time (whatever it takes) I imagine I'll be doing some kind of "umbilical cord" training; keeping the dog tied to my belt so he can get used to our home and me as leader etc., while allowing me to keep a good eye on him (When I can't have him with me I'd crate him).

The 2 questions are, with his background (suspected/confirmed abuse) and current behavior (avertion to objects of restraint):

1. Is this strict control going to make him nuts? (I imagined hand-feeding this whole time to ease the transition) and

2. What do healthy Ratties wear?

That is, the foster-mom has all her dogs running "naked," and that's nothing I do if I can help it.  I've read some breeds of dogs have more fragile windpipes and so harnesses are recomended, or for some wider collars are acceptable.

I hope that just picking something and having it on him all the time will help him learn it as the new-and-safe "normal," but I'm not sure how that will work in real life.

Any input from the Been-there crowd?

michelle


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
09/07/2008 6:06 PM  

mine wear collars in the house but when we go for a walk I put gentle leader harnesses on them.  They do not pull and it makes easier controllof the dogs for me.


michelle, mom to Sydney (JRT), Sonic (Rattie), Buddy(Jack-Rat) and Proud mom to Army son, Jordan

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893222 Sydney
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893220 Sonic
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/901405 Buddy



pepper


Ratastic
Ratastic
09/07/2008 7:44 PM  
Especially if you are doing the cord training, it's better to use a collar, purely because if they turn around funny, it will just rotate around and they will not get tangled up as easily. If you don't know what triggers there may be, you may want to use a harness for outside and safety. You don't want the pup to freak out and tug till she's choking.

The breed is pretty resilient in general, and it's largely a matter of preference. When you have the pup at home and tied to you, you will get a sense if it's gonna be a tugger, or just goes to the end and gets the hint they can't go any further. That will be your biggest clue.

Kristin ~ Pepper's mommy
singingpilgrim


Ratastic
Ratastic
09/07/2008 9:28 PM  
I have no idea about special needs, but if you're simply wanting a poll, I do fine with just a collar...

But from what I've seen TONS of ratties need halters to walk on.

Pamela
~Sophia Abigail's Mom~
Ratbones Rescue Volunteer
melo


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
09/07/2008 10:57 PM  
I have tried many things and the easy walker harness is light easy and she can't pull it)

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
09/08/2008 12:27 AM  
My Noodles uses a collar. She does real well while on a leash, off one too, but I still panic when we walk by a street with cars, so to ease my mind she wears a harness, which she hates worse than anything.

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Harley_31908


Obsessed
Obsessed
09/08/2008 1:24 AM  

 Good question. I use a harness for Harley, but I also put a collar on him when I take him somewhere public. He normally doesn't wear his collar unless he's out to impress () or it's bath time.


Meghan, Harley and Mika's momma.

"Dogs believe they are human. Cats believe they are God." ~Unknown~

lynnygal


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
09/08/2008 1:40 AM  
Our girls both wear regular collars normally during the day. IF we go out for a walk then we use harnesses. I really like them because I feel like I'm not choking them.....even if they pull on the leash..... Some people on here use the Puppia harnesses which are supposed to be really nice as well....but I have not personally tried them. Good luck with your new little guy/girl....hope it all works out!

Lynn

--------------------- lynnygal ---------------------------------
tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
09/08/2008 2:57 AM  
mine wear collars all the time, but when I take them for a walk I use a harness. I had a dog in the past (dobie mix) that had cervical issues (unrelated to collars), and I want to avoid potential neck pain/problems with the ratties.

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
melo


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
09/08/2008 12:19 PM  
always a collar for id reasons---)

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
Dinks Mom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
09/08/2008 12:23 PM  

Dink either has on nothing or a collar around the house but when we go out to public places, I'll put a harness on him for better control.


~Susy~
http://www.myspace.com/pbrluvr
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
09/08/2008 12:38 PM  
Mine all wear collars at all times for ID purposes, just in case they would get loose or lost. For walking...some wear harnesses, some don't....just depends on the individual dog.

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
Caesar & Julia's mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
09/08/2008 5:36 PM  
Both Julia and Caesar wear their collars at all times~ like MB, for ID purposes. However, when I take them anywhere, or on walks they wear harnessess.

Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia

"Don't count the days, make the days count..."
Apollo's Mommy


Feisty
Feisty
09/08/2008 6:00 PM  

My pups don't wear their collars all the time simply because they are very rarely out of my sight.  However, when we go somewhere ( to the park, vets, etc. )  or  for walkies they wear them for ID purposes only and I attach their leads to harnesses. 


"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White

~ Jolene ~
Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie


Pam&Maggie


Ratastic
Ratastic
09/08/2008 6:22 PM  
For smaller dogs I prefer harnasses if there will be any kind of pulling involved. I've had experience with a dog with a collapsed trachea and I never want to go there again. So,my two ratties wear collars in the house but wear harnasses for training, my minpin goes naked most of the time but has a chip for id.

The Rat Patrol
Pam, Maggie, Kidd Roo, Nitro and Rudy
Ratbones Rescue Volunteer
Ratbonerescues.com
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
09/09/2008 8:15 AM  
I prefer collars... and I do all training with collars -vs- harnesses.

~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
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