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LilyPie


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Newbie
07/16/2008 8:51 PM  

I'm fairly new here. Never posted before, but I've been doing lots of reading/learning for the last 10 days or so. We just got a rat terrier, she's 7 weeks old, her name is Lily. She's very sweet and we love her a lot. She's so smart, too smart, lol. She is very comfortable here, roaming all around the house now. Feeling free to tear around my kitchen table as fast as her little feet will let her, lol. She loves being around all of us, follows us all over the place. She gets lots of attention, sometimes possibly too much, lol. I have 3 boys and 1 girl, who love her to pieces.

We have been doing okay in the potty department. She's starting to get the idea about going outside. I read about the bell and plan on picking one up tomorrow.  I am crate training, the best I know how. I haven't had a puppy since I was a kid, so this is all very new to me. She goes in her crate at night and sometimes during the day if I should leave (I'm a stay at home mom) for a little while. I try and take her most places I can with me, to socialize her. And if during the day she falls asleep in my lap, I put her in her crate without closing the door, just to help her feel like it's a comfortable place, just for her.

As sweet as she is though, she is quite stubborn. I think she is testing me, but I don't know. Biting of the fingers is a huge thing. I tell her "No bite!" firmly. And then I offer her one of many chewies. Her favorite is a very slender rolled rawhide. But often she still pushes the envelope, and keeps nipping at fingers. I know she is teething and I am 99% sure that before we got her, the family who had her the first 6 weeks of her life, let her chew on their fingers. They thought it was cute. *I* do not. I think it is a very bad habit. So here's my first question: If she continues pushing, is it okay to put her in a "time-out" of sorts, in her crate? Or is that a bad idea?  I don't know b/c if I do that will it make her unhappy being in her crate b/c it's being used as a punishment?

My other bigger concern is her growing aggression. It's only been within the last 3 days. It happens when I correct her (a firm "No" for chewing on things she shouldn't chew on. She'll growl at me, and let out a little "yip". I swear she is trying to intimidate me, and she's all of 2lbs, lol. I heard it do it to two of the kids today, at two different times. But it was when they picked her up. I am a very strong believer that kids need to learn that animals have boundaries. However, I do not want her to think she is Miss Boss, and growl about everything, especially at the kids. How do I handle this?  She also growls when she plays, which I am not sure about either? Is it okay? Or not okay?

Truthfully, I'm not really sure about how to go about correcting unwanted behaviors. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

~Alyssa~


~Alyssa~
rattytatty


Training Moderator
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07/16/2008 9:10 PM  
First.... welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your new addition! Lily is adorable!
It sounds as though you are on the right track in many different areas... the most important being crate training. Starting her off this way will pay BIG rewards down the road when she's an adult. A good rule of thumb is that you can leave a pup in a crate for one hour per every month of age. Being a stay-at-home mom... this should be no problem for you. So from what I gather from your post... you are doing everything right in this regard... and also by taking her places to allow her to interact with other humans and dogs.

She is a terrier, and terriers ... as loving as they are... can be very stubborn and independent. You are right... she IS teething, but there are more appropriate things to chew on than your hands or fingers. Try a kong and fill it with peanut butter (put it in the freezer overnight) and divert her attention to it when she's chewing on items that are NOT appropriate. It's also good to put in the crate with her to give her something to occupy herself with. I don't recommend rawhide... most vets don't recommend rawhide... as it can get lodged partially digested in the intestine. It might not... but it can, so why take that risk? Kongs are virtually indestructible and filled with a treat or peanut butter, they can occupy your pup for hours!

Another thing you can do when Lily is exhibiting behavior which is not acceptable is to spray her with a water bottle and say "NO BITE" . The water will not hurt her, but WILL get her attention. Immediately give her a treat and praise her for doing something good ... always offset a negative with a positive.

Please do NOT put her in her crate as punishment. Her crate needs to become HER place ... her security... her safety... her haven.... not a place where she relates it to bad behavior. This breed is very intelligent and picks up on things very very quickly. Nip ANY aggression in the bud with a water bottle. Even as young as 7 weeks of age... she's able to learn who the boss is. And yes indeed, kids DO need to respect a dog's boundaries. Very often the actions of children are intimidating to canines and they shy away from them. It's good that you have a puppy and they can learn together.

Lily is a young pup and has much to learn... much of the behavior you are describing is natural behavior for a puppy, but not natural or acceptable behavior for humans. Good luck to you!

~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
ivy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
07/16/2008 10:36 PM  

Welcome to the site.  I have a 17 week old girl.  Just a little to add, if Ivy was doing the biting thing we would stand up and turn our back to her and not be fun anymore she hates that even more than the squirt bottle right now.   Hates to be ignored!  She doesn't usually do it any more.  It did not take very long for her to figure out when I bite they ignore me better not bite.

RatsRule!


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/17/2008 5:32 PM  
WELCOME~! OMG Lily is ADORABLE!!!
Hang in there! Nora, as always, gave great advice. Wanted to add about the watter bottle, that it usually only takes a few times (1-3) before they get it, that when the bottle comes out- they need to stop the behavior- after a firm "NO" followed by the behavior itself For example: "NO bark". Then if she continues, she gets a squirt. My two are older than Lily, but am confident that she'll get the hang of it should you decide to use it. It works for barking, clawing at screen doors etc. We keep one on each floor for easy access. lol

Lily IS still a just a puppy trying to learn things and I'm sure she's testing you to see who's boss- so let her know. As to the growling, I think there is appropriate "play time" growling and then there's unacceptable growling. I think it's important to first determine what type of growling is going on, and what you feel is appropriate given the situation. When it's not appropriate to you - let her know. I let mine growl at me when we play together (and I know that's all it is) but would never let them growl AT me any other time. (and they never have).

It sounds like you are on the right track. There are lots of good books out there, read as much as you can, talk to friends with dogs, you'll be a pro in no time, obedience training is also really important and helpful!! Good luck and post pics when you can!!

theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
07/17/2008 5:45 PM  
I agree, timeout works but dont put timeout in the crate. Ivy had a good idea of turning your back. My husband and I stop play and say no bite and give her a timeout by holding her and not letting her play or anything with us.
Bellas moma


Ratterific
Ratterific
07/17/2008 6:18 PM  
Hello and welcome!! I have a 6 month old little princess myself. My vet had suggested when you play, put the puppy's leash on a door handle and when she starts to bite, say NO BITE and walk away. She will soon associate biting= no fun
LilyPie


Newbie
Newbie
07/17/2008 9:30 PM  

Thanks for all the advice. I went out this morning and got a spray bottle just for Lily. I've only used it a couple of times. She got the idea rather quickly, lol. I also decided to switch from the rawhide, to Bully Sticks and a Kong.

Last night I was reading about the "come" command. So with some special treats I started that with her today. She did it for me, but she wouldn't do it for any of the kids, lol. She's a momma's girl. She's just so smart!

For those of you who use the bell at the door, where did you get your bell? I looked today at Meijer, and didn't have any luck. I didn't even really know what department to look in.  


~Alyssa~
tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
07/17/2008 10:40 PM  
welcome from tauney and i (christi) sounds like you are getting some great advice
ivy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
07/17/2008 11:19 PM  

Craft department usually has bells

melo


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/17/2008 11:30 PM  
god, she is cute and sound typically rattie smart and sassy!! good luck with her. Have you been warned to be carefull with her before she gets all her shots? make sure that she does not have to much doggie contact? I was not that good on that part and feared getting parvo--I was very relived when all her shows were done.

good luck with the cutie pie

Melody

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
melo


Ratastic
Ratastic
07/17/2008 11:31 PM  
god, she is cute and sound typically rattie smart and sassy!! good luck with her. Have you been warned to be carefull with her before she gets all her shots? make sure that she does not have to much doggie contact? I was not that good on that part and feared getting parvo--I was very relived when all her shows were done.

good luck with the cutie pie

Melody

Nora's mommie --
www.melodybreyer-grell.com
Selling CD's with 50 percent going to Ratbones!! Check it out!
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
07/18/2008 8:51 PM  
Welcome Alyssa. Lily is just adorable! You've been given some excellent advice above. We have two 12 lb. females: Button (4) is my bicolor and Zipper(2) is my tri-colored rescue.
Yukon Cornelius


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Terrier Terror
07/18/2008 9:02 PM  

Welcome and glad that you joined us here on rt-com.  This is a great site.  We love lots of pictures.


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