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Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 5:25 PM  

I have been meaning to teach her some basic commands for awhile now but with 3 skin kiddos running me ragged, well you know. So tonight I was determined to try some. I started out with bits of kibble for reward. We did down. That took some work! I had just seen that british trainer on Animal Planet last night have the dog go under her leg to get the dog to go down the first couple times. That FINALLY gave her the idea of what I wanted. Phew! Okay, then I was able to just motion with my hand and say DOWN and she went down for the treat.  We also did up to get her back to a sit before going back down. She must have thought Mommy had gone crazy! Up, down, up, down, up, down. Then we tried shake. She really doesn't like me touching her paws so she may not get this one but I'll keeo trying. Oh yeah, and by this point I had moved onto cheese. OOoooooo......CHEESE! Big motivator! The command she followed the best, and THIS SHOCKED me, was leave it. She really left it. She walked away! Couldn't believe it. She would walk about 2 or 3 feet away and look away from the cheese until I said go ahead. We just kept going on these commands until that 1 slice of cheese was gone. So is it okay to do so many commands in one session? How long do I use cheese before I expect her to do the commands w/o a reward?


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:39 PM  
Great job Yaz & Amy. I still use treats occasionally just for reinforcement. But When my dogs understand the command and can do it 10 out of 10 times I quit treating each time. My "kids' are easy, they are almost as happy getting a good girl/boy and an extra pet, than a treat. They learn to do what I ask to please me and not for the treat. Yaz will get it. Look how far you got in 1 session! As for how much to teach in one session I was taught if they are working good and getting it, introduce new commands, If they seem confused end session as below. If they are haveing a bad day, work on their best commands and ALWAYS end a training session on a good note-Ask them to do something you know they will do, treat, praise and end session.

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 5:43 PM  

Thanks Cat. I also forgot to mention that "up" was a difficult command on account of her being lazy. She wanted to stay "down". She really seems as though she could not care less about anything but the cheese. Should I do this every night?


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Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:50 PM  
Yep, however if you are going to train every nite keep the sessions short 10-15 minutes and make sure to keep them upbeat and fun. Also as you are treating Yaz tell her what a GOOD GIRL she is and ruffel her head. Then she will come to expect the praise as well as the treat and it won't be so hard to work her without treats. Does she know her sit command? Do you ever ask her to Jump/get up on something, like get up on the bed? If you use the up word for anything else that might confuse her, I use sit even from down.

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:53 PM  
By the way my "kids" all of them get treats just for treats I don't just use them for school.

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 5:54 PM  

OOOOHHHHHHH.....okay. Never thought of that. Yeah we say "up" all the time! Der. Blonde moment. She does know sit. She learned that way, way back. She sits before I even command it. So from "down" say "sit" to get her back up? That makes sense. I figured we would just keep the training sessions as long as 1 cheese slice. I did give her really excited "good girls" but she was just like " Lady....CHEESE!" We'll see how it goes.


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 6:05 PM  
Yea, tell her sit and use you hand signal for sit, or make a like come here with you hand,and move back a little.
You ARE using hand signals with your voice commands, right?

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 6:10 PM  

I am using hand signals but I am not sure if they are right.


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 6:25 PM  
So long as you use the same hands signals for the same commands, and anyone else who gives her commands uses the same, then they are right. There are like universal hand signals, but that don't make them right for you & Yaz!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 6:29 PM  

Thanks Cat. Hey, this is a nice conversation you and I have going.


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 6:31 PM  
What you didn't think I was nice?

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 6:39 PM  

Thought you were a bi**h. Hehehehe JK. I kind of just meant that it was just you and me. Noone else replied.


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 6:44 PM  
there will be more. Everyone has there own way, you need to find the one that works best for you and Yaz. But yea I know what ya mean!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
06/10/2008 8:18 AM  
Bringing a dog under your leg works very well with dogs who don't respond well do the more traditional way of teaching the "down" command. I have actually had to bring a dog up between my legs before.. and that works too! Always incorporate a verbal command with a hand signal in the beginning. As time passes and the dog becomes more responsive to the command, you can do away with the verbal command and just go with the hand signal if that's what you wish to do.... this of course, is something you'll have to decide.

I'm thrilled you are working with your furkid! I know having three youngsters in the household translates into less training time, but if you can somehow fit in 5-10 minutes a day... that's all it takes! Good job !!


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, NA, NAJ
garyjena


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/10/2008 8:38 AM  
Can you describe the under the leg technique. I am having trouble with down.



Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/15/2008 7:59 PM  

Awesome progress tonight! I am so excited! Since the night I first started this thread I have not had time for a session with Yaz. I MADE time tonight. She did SO well. She already knows "sit" really well. She got sown after the first few times. I even forgot hand signals. I was so shocked. She even puts her chin "down". SO CUTE!!!! then I said "sit" again for her to get back up. She DID!!!!  We did this over and over through one slice of cheese. I figured we were done for the night but she kept following me around the house.Okay, 1 more slice. This time after "sit", I didn't even say "down", she just went down. No cheese for that. I made her "sit" again then tried "shake". This has proven THE most difficult. I didn't think she would get it. She kept looking in my hand for the cheese. FINALLY, I only had one corner of cheese left and SHE GOT IT! I'd say"shake" and she'd lift her paw for me! EEEEEE!!!!!! Okay so I know this is no big deal for some, but for us it's MAJOR. The kids are thrilled with her new "tricks" too. Next I want to try "rollover" but I don't know how. Any advice?


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/15/2008 8:16 PM  
Down. once she is down tell her show me you belly. Turn her over on her back and Yea good good treat. Once she gets this down.. then comand show me your belly then tell her roll ove and roll her over yea good girl treat! Keep at it untill she gets it. Now you have taught her 2 tricks. If you teach her roll over 1st its hard to do the show me your belly trick I don't know why. Good progress. I been waiting for an update. Can you imagine how much she would know if you did it EVERY NITE!!!! She sounds like she likes your "schooling" or maybe just the cheese part. Sound like each interaction is pleasurable for you both.. YEA YAZ!!! YEA AMY!! YOU GO GIRLS!!!!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/15/2008 8:19 PM  
PS rember your hand signals..TRUST me it is soo cool when you can give them commands from a distance without haveing to say a word. I do mean WAY COOL!!!!!! Again GREAT JOB!!!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/16/2008 9:07 AM  

Thanks Cat! You have been SO helpful. I will try to remember hand signals. That would be cool to do it from across the room without saying a word. I thought for sure that this morning I would be starting from scratch. That she would have forgotten everything. Nope. We started again this morning right after Mommy's coffee. First I tried w/o cheese. Uh uh no way Mommy. I don't work for free. So I just got a couple pieces of kibble and tried again. YAY!!!!! She did it all. Then I tried again w/o kibble and she did it! So I went and got her 1 piece of kibble. When Daddy tries to get her to do it for him she looks to me. Gotta work on that. Rollover sounds tricky. Wanna come up here to help? Once we get rollover I want to work on recall. THAT should be interesting!


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/16/2008 9:35 AM  

Another thing that seems to be working! Anytime any of us leave the house Yaz FREAKS! Drives us all batty. I have tried for 2 yrs now to desensitize her to signals that we are leaving to no avail. Twice this morning Larry left w/o a peep from Yaz. As long as I know he will be getting ready to head out, I grab some kibble and tell her "watch me" which she does, reward. Then tell her "quiet", which she does, reward. That's IT! Just those two commands, once a piece. I am SHOCKED! Part of his leaving is obviously kissing me. Which is another thing that causes FREAKING. I had already said "watch me" and "quiet" and she stayed in those modes. Wow! Now how do I get her to not freak when it's ME leaving and noone is inside giving her commands? Do it as I back out the door?


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/16/2008 11:16 AM  
Daddy needs to have the kibble and use the same words and hand signals. It won't take as long for her to work for him, because she already knows what is expected, and each time it will get easier. Amy you are doing a great job!! And your baby does work for food. I promise she will get to the point where she will do it just for you. As for roll over she'll catch on, shes smart and during school she gets YOUR attention, keep it fun for you both.
My baby cries and crie when she is left at home by herself. It breaks my heart but sometime it is unavoidable. Do you crate Yaz when you leave? What is her behavior when you leave? Give us a little more info.
Amy you and Yaz are doing great and each moment you spend in school strenghtens you bond and gives you both more confidence. keep it up GIRLS!!!!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/16/2008 11:29 AM  

Daddy DOES hold the kibble when he takes a turn. I hand it to him. He uses the same words/signals but she looks at me as if to say, "Okay Mom?" He positioned himself between her and I this morning and that seemed a bit better. Crating Yaz did NOT work out. We tried ot for a good 5 months when we first got her. She peed and pooped in it and it was such a God awful mess. I threw the dang thing out. When she sees that we are getting ready to leave she starts jumping up on the door and us while barking up a storm. We have to shoo her with our feet or my purse while quickly going through the door. I have video taped her before and she barks and whines for about 5 min. then goes to sleep in the recliner. So once we are gone, she's fine. It's just getting out the door. I think I'll try rollover this afternoon. Wish us luck.


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/20/2008 2:56 PM  

Success! Yaz will now do sit, down, and shake on demand w/o treat. Show me your belly is coming along. She will ONLY do that one for reward. Shake is her FAVORITE! She is constantly offering her paw. Whether we ask or not. Getting through the door is still a nightmare. Also, what seems to work for barking at dogs walking by the house is "sit" rather than "quiet". Hey, whatever works right?


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/20/2008 7:26 PM  
Great job Amy!! And you thought she would never shake! What ever works for you and Yaz is right! Keep up the GOOD work and keep us informed!!

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
cat
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