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mrsmollywobbles


Rattie
Rattie
03/12/2008 6:14 PM  

I have had Molly for 4 days now, She is between 9 months to about 1.5 years old Where should I start as far as training, I have NEVER trained a dog before and am wondering what to do, and how to do it. So far I have just focused on going outside. We let her sleep in our room(my hubby and I ) and we take her out in the morning and at night, we also take her out periodically when we get home untill we go to bed. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she does not.  We praise her like crazy when she does and so far she has not pooed on the floor, she has peed once, as far as I know in out bathroom on the tile, we put a puppy pad in there and she used it. Is there something else I should be doing?

 

Second, my husband and I both work 35 hours a week, same shed(same place lol) when we are gone we place a baby gate in our entry way and let her have all the hallways with the doors shut. We put food/water down for her, a soft spot and blanket, and also a puppy pad which she uses, but the last 2 days  we have come home to discover that she has removed the baby gate, or hopped over it(i dont know how)  I dont want to put the gate up again because I fear she will hurt hurself, but I dont know if she will refrain from chewing on cords etc while were gone. I know dogs will become disructive if they get lonely, or bored, is there a better way to make sure she(and our house) is safe while were at work or school? Iwant to give her the most room I can.

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SORRY IT POSTED TWICE


Assume a virtue, if you have it not. - "Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 4
DaisysMom


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03/12/2008 6:20 PM  
I'll delete one of the posts

There is TONS of threads regarding all of these things in the training forum, but I'll give you some quick ideas First: I cannot stress how much I advise members to crate train their dogs, regardless of their age. Even at 9 months, Molly should be able to "hold it" about 10 hours or so...given of course that she's given proper opportunity to go potty outside before being put in her crate. Pinned to the top of the training forum is a great thread on how to crate train.

She will also need to be on a feeding schedule. One they are adult, I prefer once a day feedings, but twice a day is fine as well. If you do a morning feeding, you'll have to allow her time to eat and poo before it's time for you to leave and for her to go "to crate".

I've never crate trained a dog before Daisy. It is now absolutely essential in my mind for any new dog owner. It makes things so much easier, both for you and the dog. Most dogs come to love their crates and see them as their "special place".


Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

Smiles4life


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/12/2008 6:22 PM  
If that's your girl Molly in the picture she is a cutie!

I always plan my training around the dog. Ratties love to work for you and are super smart. My first command beyond potty training is always SIT, then down = lay down, and then wait (putting the treat up to their face and making them wait til I give the command to eat it.)

I am no trainer and would love to see the others post as well on this one. I kinda need to know where to go next as well and what people want a dog to do since I foster them.

I would not leave food down for her since you cannot control the intake and release. I feed mine once a day. I let them have full access to water and mine are spoiled with a dog door. Mine stay in the kitchen with 3 baby cates high on each door and my tiny engineer on figures a way out most days. One day I will have pocket doors!!

Paula Nowak
Foster Mom, GA State Coordinator & More
Adoptables: www.imageevent.com/smiles4life
mrsmollywobbles


Rattie
Rattie
03/12/2008 6:22 PM  

Thanks! I will review that thread, I have also found a lot of usefull info here, I am really glad I have not purchased a leash yet, because It seems a harness is better for them. Thanks again


Assume a virtue, if you have it not. - "Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 4
DaisysMom


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03/12/2008 6:31 PM  
Other than crate training, the very first "command" that should be taught is come (hopefully I can find Nora's - our training guru post on this again and I'll link to it here. The "come" command is the one command that can save your dog's life and makes other commands much easier.

Personally, I've had no problems using a regular collar. Daisy only usually wears her harness in the car so I can connect it to the restraint for the seat belt.


Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
03/13/2008 8:12 AM  
I would definitely crate train Molly... she's old enough to be left in the crate during the day while you are at work. The general rule of thumb is that you can leave them in a crate one hour for every month of age. There are numerous advantages to crate training your dog, (the least of which is that it's a super house-training aid) so I truly do hope you consider it.

Tracey is right... I believe.. and I think most trainers will concur... that recall is THE most important thing you can teach your dog. People always want to train their dogs to "sit", or "roll over"... or "shake" immediately, but if your dog plays the "catch me if you can" game.. what good is it if your dog can sit when he/she FINALLY decides to come to you? haha

First, determine if your dog is ready to work, and as soon as you can see that Molly is hungry and will do anything for an itsy bitsy bit of chicken... then you're ready to begin. Introduce the simple recall by giving her a couple of bites of chicken (or cheese.... or hotdog) for free, then quickly back up a few feet and say, "Molly... come!." (make sure your voice is enthusiastic) Hold the food in an outstretched hand at her nose level. Praise her all the time that she approaches and give the food as soon as she arrives. Once she comes readily, add a sit to the end of the recall and take hold her collar before giving the food. Many dogs will come and sit, then duck or run away to avoid being touched. They will not allow themselves to be touched because past experience has shown them that this usually means bad news (from the dog's point of view, not yours).

The exercise may be repeated several times in a row with you quickly running backwards between recalls. At a more advanced level of training, she may be instructed to sit-stay until called. Repeat this sequence with every treat. Make certain this exercise is performed when your dog is really motivated (hungry). If at anytime the dog loses interest, stop the training immediately and don't allow the dog to eat anything else until the next regularly scheduled mealtime and practice session.

Once Molly is responding regularly, it is time to start to thin out the food rewards. Rewards should be reserved for the dog's better responses, i.e., only those times when she comes quickly, directly and happily. During maintenance training, on average, the dog should receive one food reward per five times that she comes obediently. She will learn to come because you are asking it of her... and not simply because she knows she's going to get a treat.


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
DaisysMom


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03/13/2008 8:23 AM  
Thanks, Nora!!! I couldn't find your "recall post" to save my life!!!!

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

Sarah K


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
03/13/2008 8:39 AM  
I love all the great advice that is on this site! I definately agree with the crate training. One thing that Chrissy is having trouble with is the "come" command. She likes to come and stop just out of my reach. If I reach for her she backs up just a little bit. It's a game to her. We are still working on it. When I call them both to come to me and Pepper comes right away he gets a treat and this usually gets Chrissy to come to me because she wants one too. LOL Training just takes lots of consistancy and patience.

Sounds like you are on the right track with Molly. Keep up the good work and always ask questions; the advice you will get here is very helpful.

Sarah
~ Mommy to Chrissy and Pepper (JackRat)

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mrsmollywobbles


Rattie
Rattie
03/13/2008 8:39 AM  

Thanks for all the great info guys, I no longer feel lost and you all have made me feel so welcome. I will be crate training her and putting her on a feeding shedule once she gets that down I will worrie about sit and stay and such


Assume a virtue, if you have it not. - "Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 4
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
03/13/2008 8:47 AM  

I'm sitting here remembering a time when I went to this lady's house to help obedience train her dog.  The first question I always ask is (1)  What are your goals for your dog and (2)  Is your dog already trained to do anything, and if so... what?

After discussing her goals for her dog... with "Rover" sitting nicely beside her on his leash (this was a 2-month old... gorgeous... doberman)... she tells me that Rover already knows how to "sit".  I asked her to show me.  She commanded Rover to sit.. and he sat beautifully.  She was so proud of Rover... and I had to agree that Rover did indeed have a gorgeous "sit".

We were in a fenced in yard... almost an acre I would guess... so I asked her to take him off lead and tell him to sit.  She took him off lead and he started darting all over the yard... with her screaming his name over and over and over again... and with every call of his name Rover became that much more energized.   She had some treats in her hand, but they were commercial treats of some sort (don't remember what).   I asked her to quit calling him.. and we went into the house and left Rover in the yard. 

10 minutes later we went back out... she called Rover and he would come and get about 4 feet away from her and the minute she would stretch out her arm to grab him by the collar, he would dart off again, running all around the fence... he was obviously wanting her to chase him... and play his game. (This is what I fondly refer to as the "catch me if you can" game that dogs like to play).  So she starts yelling again .. over and over... for him to come. 

Now I ask you... was recall important in this scenario? 

I rest my case! 


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
mrsmollywobbles


Rattie
Rattie
03/14/2008 3:31 PM  
LOL I see your point

Assume a virtue, if you have it not. - "Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 4
canineboss


Rattie
Rattie
03/15/2008 12:28 AM  
I'm hope I'm right you guys correct me if I'm wrong, Molly in the avitar pictue looks like a B type right?... I think I'm really starting to like theirlook.. She's a cutie, and looks like she has a great attitude...

Try to avoid using the recall command ("come" or "here" whatever word you plan on using) right now unless you can enforce it...She should believe that when you say that word she will recieve the best prize ever when she gets back to you and conversly that if she doesn't the world will stop revolving...Read up or get professional help with it..everyone is right about the recall being the most important comand...

I may start some trouble here but here it goes...I would stay away from the harness they just encourage dogs to pull harder...there are several products on the market that will stop her pulling the one I like is the Haltie..(spelling I think)...The training solution with out these aids is pretty simple if you have the time and don't mind your walks being pretty short for a few days...You simply do an abrupt about face, when she starts to get in front of you. You don't have to jerk on the leash or do anything overtly with your hands just turn your body and go the other way at a brisk walk. Sharp Right hand turns will work as well. The Idea is next to you is the only place she can see what you are about to do so it's a good place to be. infront is a bad place. When she comes back to the correct position you praise her...If she remains there for a few steps reward her with a treat or her favorite toy, I guess here's a good time to talk about Toys and treats for training. Find out what treat and/or toy she loves the most, then you don't give it to her unless she earns it. especially during her first stages of training...

Hope this helps some


Live everyday like it's your last because tomorrow is promised to no one
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
03/15/2008 2:24 PM  
Posted By canineboss on 03/15/2008 12:28 AM
I'm hope I'm right you guys correct me if I'm wrong, Molly in the avitar pictue looks like a B type right?... I think I'm really starting to like theirlook.. She's a cutie, and looks like she has a great attitude...

Try to avoid using the recall command ("come" or "here" whatever word you plan on using) right now unless you can enforce it...She should believe that when you say that word she will recieve the best prize ever when she gets back to you and conversly that if she doesn't the world will stop revolving...Read up or get professional help with it..everyone is right about the recall being the most important comand...

I may start some trouble here but here it goes...I would stay away from the harness they just encourage dogs to pull harder...there are several products on the market that will stop her pulling the one I like is the Haltie..(spelling I think)...The training solution with out these aids is pretty simple if you have the time and don't mind your walks being pretty short for a few days...You simply do an abrupt about face, when she starts to get in front of you. You don't have to jerk on the leash or do anything overtly with your hands just turn your body and go the other way at a brisk walk. Sharp Right hand turns will work as well. The Idea is next to you is the only place she can see what you are about to do so it's a good place to be. infront is a bad place. When she comes back to the correct position you praise her...If she remains there for a few steps reward her with a treat or her favorite toy, I guess here's a good time to talk about Toys and treats for training. Find out what treat and/or toy she loves the most, then you don't give it to her unless she earns it. especially during her first stages of training...

Hope this helps some


I agree 100%.  I have NEVER trained using a harness.  I don't know of a single trainer who trains with a harness


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
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