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justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/12/2008 5:01 PM  

Joleigh is a very loving 13 week old pup still, however when i leave she whines loudly for hours.. luckily one of my neighbors are nice and they don't exactly complain but they do "let me know" when she whines.. its gotten to where i cant go anywhere at night because im worried she'll keep people up. i always make sure she has food/water/toys and even made it to where she can get in my bed which she loves. ive sat outside to see if maybe she just does it for a while and stops, but its continuous. a lot of people told me to wear her out so she'd sleep while i was gone, we spent 3 hourss in the park playing and i brought her home and as soon as she passed out i left, sure enough whined the whole time i was gone. I really need help, i don't know what to do, and if i get a few complaints against me for noise my landlord will make me give her up..

gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/12/2008 5:04 PM  
Have you tried leaving on a TV or radio for her? Dogs are pack animals, they really don't like to be alone so the noise of TV or radio might help her feel a bit less scared and lonely. She also may be bored so you could try giving her something to do (like stuffing and freezing a kong toy for her to work on rather than just regular toys).

gwacie (Bethany)
My Doggies: http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Rescue: http://www.newrattitude.org
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/12/2008 5:07 PM  
yeah, i've done the tv thing, ive even gone as far as to record my voice talking on my computer and putting it on repeat in the room which she is in, still it didn't work. I bought her a kong and she will play with it only when im around her.
gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/12/2008 5:08 PM  
Even if you put food (like kibble/peanut butter mix) into it?

gwacie (Bethany)
My Doggies: http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
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DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
03/12/2008 5:09 PM  
First welcome to you and Joleigh --- Yes, we want pics!

Let me look through some of our training threads. We've had some good recommendations for this situation before

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/12/2008 5:13 PM  
yeah, i bought the peanut butter mix and even another kong-like thing that holds treats.. as soon asi begin to walk away from her she loses interest, and when i come back its in the same exact spot, with whatever was in it still left in it.
Tammie


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/12/2008 7:24 PM  
I'm experiencing a bit of this myself. Bijou does NOT like being left in her crate, but fortunately, she does okay when left in the laundry room with some toys and her litter box.

One thing you can do to help with her anxiety is not making a big fuss when you leave or return. Just be matter of fact about it and hopefully your dog will soon learn being left alone is no big deal and that you will return eventually.

That's my baby girl, Bijou! She's a Toy Rat Terrier.

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/749214

talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/12/2008 7:30 PM  

that was how Zeppellin was for 2 years! Till I convinced my daughter she needed #2 and it did the trick!Now he is a different dog! he is HAPPY for her to leave! Caesar was a mess too till I started with my SAGA of PUPs he too now is a much better dog now that he has brothers!I I always thought it would be more work it turned out to be less!Now that don't even care if im here!!except bedtime!that our time together...


Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules!
tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
03/12/2008 7:42 PM  
have you tried giving her a old shirt of yours that you have worn, does she have toys or a blankie? or leave a radio or tv on for noise in the house?
tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
03/12/2008 7:45 PM  
i do want to say a VERY BIG WELCOME FROM TAUNEY AND I THOUGH!!!! by the way my name is christi
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/12/2008 8:59 PM  
im jessica nice to meet you all =) yeah ive tried leaving clothes i wore the day before with her, she has a blanket and a jacket (that she kind of stole) and plenty of entertainment around her.. i usually try to get her into another room and walk around alot till she gets tired of following me and when she goes off to rest i leave. i dont even tell her bye or anything, and i wait a few minutes after i get home to sit with her and pet her so she'll think if i dont think its a big deal that i left, she wont.. but nothings working and i REALLY don't want to give her up.
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/12/2008 9:04 PM  

ahhh don't give up! puppy -hood only lasts for awhile!!!you 2 will work it out!just be strong! if we folk that have foster'd and raised LOTS! at a time have done it you can too!hang in!!!


Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules!
Smiles4life


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/12/2008 9:46 PM  
Jessica & Joleigh,

It sounds like you have tried many of the things the RT.com members have mentioned. It sounds like you are on the right path. How old is she?

I agree with all the above suggestions and will add that you may want to take her for a long brisk walk before leaving her. This will wear her out, decrease any anxiety she has because you leave and hopefully she will sleep while you are gone.

For mine I always have a schedule during the week due to going to work so when it's time to leave for the day I call them in the kitchen for a treat and then tell them I will be back. Now I am in a house so they can howl and act like fools all they want, but I think because of the routine they realize mom will be back soon.

If all of that doesn't work, how about doggie day care? I know it can be expensive, but maybe its a good solution a few times a week. That is the ONLY way to wear one of ours out. He will even wake up the others to play! Otherwise, if you have a friend who can be her day care or come over and take her for a walk mid day that might help.

Depending on her age you might also like to work on obedience training so she feels more confident in herself and you. You could also leave for a minute and come back and gradually increase the time frame to reassure her. Giving her a small treat when you leave and when you get home. That way she looks forward to when you leave and come home.

Just a bunch of thoughts for you. I hope one or more do the trick!

Paula Nowak
Foster Mom, GA State Coordinator & More
Adoptables: www.imageevent.com/smiles4life
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/12/2008 10:49 PM  
i appreciate all the help, she's a very very smart girl, and listens really well, she's 13 weeks old. she learned very quickly a lot of commands and is coming along with the potty training decently. the one thing i was worried about was her going in my bed, which she has yet to do! i have brought her to the park everyday since ive had her, bu joleigh can be exhausted but wont sleep till i come back home. unfortunately she has to stay with my parents for a few days because i have to go to new orleans for a conference but i tried to get them to understand they need to try to leave her alone a bit so she gets use to it (i dont want to come back and her be even worse haha)
lynnygal


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/13/2008 12:12 AM  
Awww, well I welcome you and your pup to the site. I think you'll find lots of helpful information and tips as you journey through puppyhood with your new little one. These dogs are SO SUPER SMART....and I'm sure your little pup is thinking if she cries long enough that you'll give in and just walk right back in the door and rescue her. Honestly with her only being 13 weeks old....she is still very young....our little Daisy cried quite a bit her first few weeks at home too.....when we put her in her crate, she'd even cry when we were right there....we'd put her in the bathtub if I was fixing my hair....just so I could keep an eye on her....she'd wail and cry like crazy. It does get better I promise! Routine is real important...they seem to like that.....and settle in after an adjustment period. All the tips you have already gotten up above are things I would have suggested....so I'd say just keep it up..... Good luck at your conference in NO and keep in touch!

Lynn

--------------------- lynnygal ---------------------------------
braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
03/13/2008 7:32 AM  
i experienced this anxiety with my bryson... leave your pj shirt for her to sleep on.. sometimes your smell is all they need. when you leave they think you are abandoning them, not just stepping away. they need reinforcement! it helped with bryson but the only honest thing that made this pass was a friend. i have 2 ratties now!!!

"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
03/13/2008 7:50 AM  

At only 13 weeks of age, I don't think she can be "diagnosed" as suffering from true separation anxiety... which is different from just whining for awhile in your absence.

There is a product on the market called "IntelliPet  Bark Solver"  (here's a link).  http://www.petedge.com/IntelliPet-Bark-Solver-ZW16806.pro  Several people I know have had good success with this.

Also, it's an excellent suggestion to leave a radio or television on... put something with your scent on it in the crate (hopefully you are crate training her?)  with her... and don't leave her for long periods.  She needs the reassurance at this young age that you WILL be returning in a short while.  If possible also... take her with you.  She needs the socialization.. as all pups do!  Also... play with her and wear her out before you leave.   When you are home, put her in her area (crate, pen, small room etc) for short periods of time to get her used to it without you being right there.   Feed her in there, treat her in there, make her love it in there. And dont ever pick her up or give her anything when she is whining or barking

 


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
Katie'sMom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
03/13/2008 7:55 AM  
You've gotten good advice -- I found the not making a big fuss on leaving and returning helped a lot . Other than that, l'll just say welcome and Joleigh is a cutie pie.

Check out Katie Scarlett and Company, KS's new site (includes magazine):
Katie Scarlett and Company

And email her at:
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buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
03/13/2008 5:02 PM  
Welcome Jessica and little Joleigh. I've not had any dogs with separation anxiety, so I can't give any personal successes with it. You have been given some excellent ideas by members. Most puppies don't like to be left alone when they are very young. They soooo miss their litter mates, mom and their humans. They sooooo want to play every waking minute. Joleigh will probably outgrow this. Just needt o find things that will keep her "occupied" while you're gone. Peanut Butter stuffed Kongs (freezing them makes them last longer) and bully sticks sto chew on might help pass the time for her. Try small nylabones (my girls loved the gnawing action) in her crate when you're gone, too. Chewing for teething purposes fills a lot of idle time. Squeaky toys may also help.
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/17/2008 8:59 PM  
She seems to be doing somewhat better.. She's still right at the door when I come in but I don't hear her whining when I'm getting close. She had a vet visit today so she doesn't seem too happy with me but she's sleeping off her grouchyness so hopefully she'll be better when she wakes up. thanks to all who helped!
marbar


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/17/2008 9:29 PM  

If Joleigh is with Grandma and Grandpa anything goes, they spoil and that is the way it is


Mary, Mommy to:
Princess Fiona and Princess Lily Belle's Mommy
My bestest lil girls
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
03/20/2008 1:36 AM  

oh yesss it was my dads first time meeting her and they got along great.  She likes laying on him because he falls asleep watching tv, i move around too much for her to get comfortable and stay comfortable.  shes also a snorer so they have that in common, haha.

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