rattytatty

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| 05/07/2007 10:00 AM |
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Forgive me being on my soapbox here... but having just come from a three-day agility trial where I enjoyed watching and interacting with some of the best behaved and well trained dogs I've ever been around....I've thought a lot about the advantages of a well-trained dog. I simply cannot emphasize too much the importance of obedience training for your dog. It is very substantial to the well being of your dog and your own contentment in owning a dog.
Dog training is SUCH an important aspect of owning and raising a dog. However many people do not fully understand the importance of dog training. It is not meant to turn your dog into some kind of robot who follows commands accurately and mindlessly. It is also not aimed to make your puppy into a show dog that can do tricks to amuse your friends. Dog training is all about making the bond between you and your dog stronger. It is about teaching your dog the basic rules to make him a safer pet as well as a pleasant companion.
Dog training is NOT about subduing your dog to follow your every whim; it is about communication. Regardless of your purpose for owning a dog, whether it is for companionship or for protection... or because you want a watch dog... you should train your dog so that you will not have any behavioral problems with it in the future. Dog training will turn your frisky puppy to a more docile dog that will obey your command and stay away from trouble.
Dog training is highly recommended regardless of your lifestyle or the breed of your dog. It is also recommended to start training your dog while still a puppy. This is because older dogs are more difficult to train. Sometimes, different dog breeds may require different dog training techniques. For instance, you can't use the same technique to train a large Great Dane and tiny Chihuahua...you simply can't. You will find your rat terrier to be VERY intelligent, VERY trainable because of his/her willingness to learn and willingness to please. Take advantage of these breed characteristics and build on them. MAKE the time to spend with this little critter you have so willingly and lovingly brought into your home to become a part of your life.
Simple dog training starts with obedience training. First, your puppy must recognize his name and be responding to it every time you call it out. You can then start to train him to come to you whenever you call him. Use the verbal commands "come" or "here" when you are calling him, and always call the dog's name before the command. (Example: "Bailey... COME!"). Then you can start introducing some other techniques such as the sit command. You should start with the simple commands first and gradually advance to more complicated commands. I always teach the "come" command first because I feel it's the most important command.. and may well save your dog's life at some point. Many individuals don't focus on the "come" command if they have a fenced in yard.. or an invisible fence... because it's not so much an issue for those individuals as people who live in an "open" area (like I do). So often these individuals don't spend time on the "come" command because it's simply isn't important... UNTIL they decide to take their dog somewhere where there is no fence...no boundaries... and people let their dog off lead and then are surprised when the dog doesn't come when called.
Also, a goal of dog training is to make your dog safer, not only to you and your family, but also to everyone in your neighborhood. This is especially important if you have a large dog that can be capable of damage or injury. A trained dog will simply not run off to chase a cat or a squirrel, and will not be aggressive to other pets, children and adults.
Dog training is not easy. You have to have patience and perseverance to be always consistent in your commands so that your dog will learn faster and more effectively. You should also respect your dog. Remember that you chose him. He didn't choose you. You should treat him right in the first place, because if you don't you will end up with an unhappy dog who will likely run away from you and be quite difficult to train.
If you are truly determined to train your dog personally, you can find a lot of resource material on dog training in many books, manuals, pamphlets and others. It may be helpful to get some information about dog training even before you get a puppy. We all know that pet shops will offer dog obedience training either for free or for a fee. Just make sure that it is attuned to the requirements of your dogs breed. You can also hire a professional dog trainer to assist you in training your dog if the dog has specific behavior issues... such as showing signs of agression. This behavior needs to be corrected and corrected CORRECTLY by an individual trainer who has experience in that area. Don't try to correct the behavior yourself if you don't know how.... you could easily make it worse.
Just wanted to take the time to post this. I'm SO VERY PROUD of several of you who I know have recently made the commitment towards training your rat terrier. Although I don't respond to every single post, I do try to read them all in this training forum and offer advice when I think it's needed. Also, we have other people on the forum who offer wonderful training advice... so I hope people feel free to ask questions and feel comfortable with the responses they receive.
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 05/07/2007 10:12 AM |
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Nora, I can give an example of how important the "come" command is. Luckily Skipper is VERY good at that. Yesterday he found a hole in our fence (apparently a cat/raccoon or something had pushed it's way through under the wire the night before and it was slight raised). Right before my eyes he skittered under that fence and was free! Adding to the problem was the dilemma: do I go around the yard and catch Skipper or patch the fence first so the others don't get out?!
What I did was calmly say "Skipper, come" and he just skittered back under the fence and came to me!! Needless to say I was quite relieved. |
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Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco
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Apollo's Mommy

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| 05/07/2007 10:24 AM |
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| Thank you, Nora! Apollo and I have began the "come" command today. He's good at it but when something has his attention... that's what has his attention... not me. |
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"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White
~ Jolene ~ Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie

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rattytatty

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| 05/07/2007 10:26 AM |
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Wonderful example, Mary Beth! Skipper could have very easily been long gone before you could get out the gate to get him. Many dogs, when they get "free" like that, put their noses to the ground and take off... oblivious to your calls for them to come back... and totally focused on whatever new scent they are following. Unfortunately, I've experienced just that scenario... and had a little dachshund run out into the road... following the scent of "something" (who knows what?) and was hit by a car and killed. I swore I would NEVER allow that to happen again... that I would do whatever it took to prevent it... and I have. I'm very proud of Skipper in the situation you describe! |
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JenMax

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| 05/07/2007 10:30 AM |
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Good boy Skipper!
Sorry about your little dachshund Nora. I see that your fur kids are very well trained  |
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Jenny - Max's sister
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cherylwordweaver

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| 05/07/2007 10:59 AM |
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Nora, Thanks so much for your passion and care and above all training ability!! I wish there was a way to open everyone's brain and insert a chip that would give a person all the education they need to be responsible owners. Or at least to understand the importance of responsible ownership.
We owe our fur babies so much since they give us total and unconditional love. I am flying out tomorrow to get Aka and we are already signed up for the next round of puppy classes at a local groomers/kenneling/doggie day care place run by a friend. She has hired an outstanding trainer to work with her and her clients and they are having great success. Which is pretty amazing here in a small rural county where most folks use dogs primarily for hunting and have the very unfortunate habit of "leaving" a dog if he/she doesn't hunt or if they are too old.
Leaving involves cutting a dog's collar/tags off and just letting them go after the scent but never picking the dogs back up. We have so many beautiful dogs that wind up in our local pound since we don't have a humane society here. These animals have given their all and their "owners" don't care. They don't want the responsibility of caring for their dogs forever. I get so frustrated.
Keep on telling it like it is and thanks for doing it so well.
It is never too late to write a letter to our local papers reminding them of what it takes to be responsible for our 4 legged companions, to offer training tips, to let people know that even one person can make a difference and to just keep the words out there. We can never repeat them too much. I hope that everyone here will take some time to "reach one, teach one". I have never met a greater bunch of folks and know that we all care passionately. Thanks everyone for that and more.
Thanks again Nora for all your hard work. May Aka and I come "foster" at your house for a couple of years to just learn from you?
Mahalo nui loa (thank you very much)
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Aloha, Cheryl Wordweaver mom to Aka & Taffy
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends
-- if they're okay, then it's you.
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cherylwordweaver

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| 05/07/2007 11:02 AM |
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PS Nora,
May I have permission to quote you from this training post? I am planning on offering a story (at least a letter to the editor) and would love to use many of your words. If it is okay, just send me an email with how you would like to be noted as the author.
Thanks!!
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Aloha, Cheryl Wordweaver mom to Aka & Taffy
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends
-- if they're okay, then it's you.
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Paul

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| 05/07/2007 11:19 AM |
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| Nora, your advice is so valuable not only to novice dog owners, but also to those of us that have had dogs for most of our lives. I ALWAYS find something in your posts that helps me, and I thank you! |
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"Train now, or forever hold your leash"
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mario07

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| 05/07/2007 11:25 AM |
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Very well put, Nora... your help has been invaluable to Mario and me. I love you so much!  |
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~~Shannon, Mario and Pepper's mom!~~
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fastshark


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| 05/08/2007 7:29 PM |
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Well, just to chime in:
We are going to a free potty training class this coming weekend @ PetSmart and then the following weekend, both Toby and Roxy start there 8 week training class. While we were there to signup there was a class in session, I was very impressed as to how the dogs responded to commands. One dog was asked to leave as he was too hyper though. I was thinking that when we goto training, to have me on one side and my wife on the other side (each with a dog). Sound like a good idea? I have been dabbling with the dance command. Roxy seems to have a problem doing a full circle, however Tobby has been noted a few time doing 3 FULL circles. The only thing I am having a problem with is the actual treats and how they "flow" (#2 bathroom) thru them. I have the smallest bones I could find (about 1 inch in length and 1/2 wide) which I break them in half and reward them. Were just found some liver treats which are a bit smaller, but cause the same "runny" bathroom effects. I tried a few times to use there actual food as the treat and they seemed to "fall for it". Trying not to do any other commands as I dont want to have to break a command I was attempting with an "actual" command taught by the Petsmart trainer. Once I get some commands down solid, I'll post some video.
NOTE TO WEBMASTER: Can we add a Video section to where member can have an actual place to show off there training videos? |
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"If it's plugges in, fastshark supports it" -General.Manager |
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rattytatty

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| 05/08/2007 8:17 PM |
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| I don't train with "bones"... of any size. I train with stringed cheese, cut into itsy bitsy bites... or hotdogs cut into itsy bitsy bites...or itsy bitsy pieces of real meal (chicken, roast beef)... but never bones. I want something (1) tiny and (2) soft ... so the dog doesn't become unfocused by chewing. |
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JRT_Rattie_Mom

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| 05/09/2007 2:57 AM |
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Posted By fastshark on 05/08/2007 7:29 PM Well, just to chime in:
We are going to a free potty training class this coming weekend @ PetSmart and then the following weekend, both Toby and Roxy start there 8 week training class. While we were there to signup there was a class in session, I was very impressed as to how the dogs responded to commands. One dog was asked to leave as he was too hyper though. I was thinking that when we goto training, to have me on one side and my wife on the other side (each with a dog). Sound like a good idea? I have been dabbling with the dance command. Roxy seems to have a problem doing a full circle, however Tobby has been noted a few time doing 3 FULL circles. The only thing I am having a problem with is the actual treats and how they "flow" (#2 bathroom) thru them. I have the smallest bones I could find (about 1 inch in length and 1/2 wide) which I break them in half and reward them. Were just found some liver treats which are a bit smaller, but cause the same "runny" bathroom effects. I tried a few times to use there actual food as the treat and they seemed to "fall for it". Trying not to do any other commands as I dont want to have to break a command I was attempting with an "actual" command taught by the Petsmart trainer. Once I get some commands down solid, I'll post some video.
NOTE TO WEBMASTER: Can we add a Video section to where member can have an actual place to show off there training videos? I'm not the webmaster But... there is a "video area" already listed in the forums. 
Thanks again Nora for sharing your training knowledge with all of us!
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Karen G. Lucy (JRT) & Holly (Rat Terrier) Blind Dog Resources & Adoptions Ratbone Rescues ~ Oregon Fostermom
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rattytatty

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| 05/10/2007 2:10 PM |
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| Yes...Karen you are correct. There is a video forum on the website already... feel free to post any training videos there. |
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Ladysmom

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| 06/17/2007 9:59 AM |
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Amen to the importance of training! A well-trained dog is a happy dog -- one who gets to go places with his or her people. Plus, training helps keep your dog safe. Two commands that I find especially useful with Lady are "wait" and "back." I use "wait" in tons of situations. One is not letting her get out of the car until I am sure it is safe for her to do so. Also, we hike a lot, and for her safety, I keep her leashed to my belt (she'd make a nice snack for a mountain lion). I use "wait" when we encounter rough terrain (gullies, stream crossings, loose rock) to let her know that I need to go first and get my footing before she follows, so she doesn't throw me off balance (or vice versa) through too much tension in the lead. "Back" is my stop-gap command for hazards such as snakes. I am going to take her for snake-proofing next time it's offered in a nearby town. In the meantime, just having her trained to back up with me is a decent low-tech solution. It also a good command with which to establish boundaries and leadership (no hovering when I am eating or preparing her food). She knows to move a distance away and settle into a down stay until I offer her a tidbit or release her to come get her food. Fortunately, Lady is very smart and gets the difference between "back up with me away from that rattlesnake" and "back away from me -- I'll give you your dinner when I am ready, missy" (hand signals help). I practice both verbal and hand commands with her. Ladysmom |
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nycmom

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| 06/26/2007 6:15 PM |
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| Sorry about your dachshund Nora. The feeling is so fresh in my mind...I feel your pain. |
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Scott

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| 06/26/2007 9:41 PM |
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| http://www.petrescue.com/library/untrained-dog.htm read it at your own risk...you will cry |
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Ex King of The Red Necks Ex Training Moderator Now sometimes visitor and resident trouble maker. |
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Bokilink

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| 07/05/2007 1:51 AM |
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| I used hot dog that I have sliced then chopped up and dryed in a jerky maker. they taste REALLY good (for the dog) and a whole hot dog doesnt disturbe the bowl too much. and when tehy are tiny like that 1 hot dog is actually almost too much My dogs all know that when the little plastci bag comes out its time for treats and all three line up and start preforming.... |
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Lacey

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| 07/13/2007 7:13 PM |
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We just got a 6 week old "baby". I was just wondering if anyone has any tips or any good books that I can read that will help me out on potty-training and all around training. It has been a while since I have had to do this. I have heard from many people that they are very good dogs to have and very easy to train. If anyone has suggestions I would greatly appreciate it! My boys are so excited to have this experience and so am I (I think) ! |
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bunney_c21

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| 01/30/2008 2:52 PM |
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Hi Tracy, congrates on your baby!
Well something that helped me train Spudz with pottying was if he would go pee inside I would take him and put his nose in it and hit him on the nose. Then take him outside and tell him to go "pee". I know this seems a bit harsh, BUT he learned in two days! I also recommend to use the dog liners and have a Spot in the house for them, this might help I never used them because I found Spudz around the age of 4 months. |
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Sarah K

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| 01/30/2008 2:56 PM |
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| I don't think putting their nose in it and a smack on the nose is a good idea. |
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Sarah ~ Mommy to Chrissy and Pepper (JackRat)
Chrissy and Pepper's Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/magicalmemories3980 |
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BETTYLOO35

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| 03/22/2008 9:13 PM |
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| We potty trained Amos and Andy by sticking their nose to it and lightly smacking them. No to harsh but enough that they knew it was a bad thing and not permitted. Now when they want out they just come to one of us and yip or jump to us to let us know. But as I mentioned in another post they have also learned the verbal words and we can spell them and they know what we are saying. They are so verrrrry smart. |
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Mitchlav

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| 05/22/2008 8:13 AM |
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Nora - I just got around to reading your post and I wish I had read it when I first found the site. Everything you said is something I've come to the same conclusion on. I just took the long way around. Thanks for the great advice... hopefully other noobs will NOT do as I did. |
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