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txjulesjones


Newbie
Newbie
02/03/2008 2:25 PM  

We are new dog owners - we had a really low key beagle years ago.  This is our first RT - we just got him from a family that could no longer keep him.  He is not neutered (which will change next week) and he is 18 months old.  My children are in love with him.  He was okay for the first day  - but all of a sudden has started growling at my 5 year old - he doesn't do this to the 9 and 11 year olds or my husband or myself.  I definitely plan on dog training classes for him.  His previous owners said he never growled or bit or barked.  He lived in their garage during the day, we have him in his crate at night and take him on lots of walks.

I am worried my dh is not going to be tolerant of keeping the dog if he keeps growling at our little one.  We need all the help we can get to help Rowdy be a great part of our family.

 

 

thanks for any advice

julie

Philo


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
02/03/2008 2:42 PM  

Welcome aboard and congRATS on your new fur baby.  There are so many here that will give you great advice.  One of the first things we will want to see is pics of Rowdy.

Growling is a warning from Rowdy, it could seem something inocent your 5 year old is doing, but there's something going on. It may be just that the youngest doesn't have any experience and the dog is sensing this. Maybe Rowdy can't figure out what your son is going to next which would make him insecure about the situation. Until Rowdy is "fixed" you should keep a close eye and make sure the little one isn't somehow provoking Rowdy. There is something Rowdy senses that is threatening. The growl, at least in our house, usually means "back off" unless we're playing tug-a-war and Rattagan will growl so that a stranger would think he is ready to bit, but it is his play growl, not a "Get off of me before I smack you" growl.


Rattie Daddy to Cameo, Nala Belle, Cutter & Rattagan
Foster Dad to Cricket
(aka Philo)

"Beauty such as this is a gift, and I'm often in awe of this world we've been given." Mrs Bonnie
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
02/03/2008 3:09 PM  

Was this rattie ever around small children before?  Small children often present an "excited energy" to dogs and dogs react in kind if they haven't been around small kids before.  Also, if your child is or has done something in playing with the rattie that has scared or hurt him (probably accidently) he may feel he has to defend himself.

Please supervise your child around him at all times....that will prevent accidents.  Neutering, is, of course a good first step.  Also, the training classes will help.  Another thing is that some quality exercise will help dispel excess energy " a tired rat terrier is a good rat terrier"!

Terriers have a totally different temperment than the more laid back breeds like beagles.  They need a strong alpha pack leader and should be taught that every member of the family is alpha over him.  They also need the exercise.

Hope this helps and I'm sure the others will have some advice to add!  Ratties can take work but they are so worth it!

 


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/03/2008 3:17 PM  

that is a good age! caesar was adopted at 18mons too and not fixed either! I got that done the VERY SAME WEEK! he peep'd on ALL stationary objects! even ME!He is 5 now and still hikes his leg! I hate it i put the little BOY PANTS for studs on him if we go to other people 's house cause he will mark!that is why I get them fixed as soon as they DROP 5-6 mons at the most! so "get 'ur done!"quick!they don't seem to hike there legs till them and still PEE like a girlor get the pants web site poochiepants.com  and good luck ! lucky dog!


Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules!
michelle


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
02/03/2008 3:20 PM  

My Sonic was 18 months when we adopted him.  School is always a good thing


michelle, mom to Sydney (JRT), Sonic (Rattie), Buddy(Jack-Rat) and Proud mom to Army son, Jordan

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893222 Sydney
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893220 Sonic
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/901405 Buddy



txjulesjones


Newbie
Newbie
02/04/2008 10:22 AM  

Thanks to those who responded, I have done a lot of reading, I do think he views the 5 year old as not "alpha" over him, but when we tell the dog "no" and have her pet him - then he is all loving with her - I just won't leave them in the same room together.   We know we have so much to learn.  He LOVES to be outside and go on walks, right now he could get out of our fence, so we plan to make him a doggie run area so he can go out without his leash.  We have been walking him 3-5 times a day for about 15 minutes or more at a time, then my daughter takes him on mini walks around the yard when he goes out to potty.  They do play with him in the house a lot.

I will be a regular here!! I will try to figure out how to post pictures!!  I think Rowdy is a little cutie!!

 

Thanks all!!!!!

Rowdy's mom

treble02


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
02/04/2008 10:38 AM  
Welcome to you and Rowdy and your famile! You have gotten great advice here! We look forward to getting to you know you and your family! And yes, pics pics pics!

~ Mary, Trixi and Toa's Mommy,
Ratbone Rescues Database Manager
and Applications Coordinator

Caesar & Julia's mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
02/04/2008 12:28 PM  
Welcome!! Congrats on your new rattie! You will learn so much here...I know I did when I first joined!! Can't wait to see pictures~ you are gonna love it here!!

Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia

"Don't count the days, make the days count..."
Azrats


Obsessed
Obsessed
02/04/2008 1:25 PM  

I've had my 18 month old do this as well, see it is one of two things. The first and most likely is he never saw a person that small, and it scares him. Second is he has had a bad experience with 5 year olds, or small children. This would make the dog very defensive.. He might avoid and then growl. First you must have the five year old feed the dog, and walk the dog. Also leg hiking can occur even with a very early neutering, it is a male thing.


And as we lie beneath the stars
We realize how small we are
If they could love like you and me
Imagine what the world could be~Nickleback
For my dogs teach me everyday, and in their eyes I see the person I strive to be-Karen, about Camper
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/12/2008 7:09 PM  

thats how caesar is too and ONLY very 6-8 yrs litlte boys! NOT GIRLS! And he has never been ill treated as far as I know.. I too got him at 18 months stud dog,fixed him that week! (he still thinks he's a stud!) he is 5 now! anyway... its probably the same,I just tell them to ignore him.. and sit down one the grass and let HIM come to THEM not the other way around! use a toy or better FOOD! I get as many kids as I can find to play with my pups so they won't grow to fearkids ,it has works great! he will never LIKE litle boys.. I know he won't bite them either,I think they just move to fast! LIKE LITTLE BOYS DO!


Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules!
Katie'sMom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
02/12/2008 7:42 PM  
Welcome to the site and you've gotten some great advice. It is important to be alpha over him. Telling him no in a firm way and letting him know that is not acceptable behavior is good. One thing I thought of as a suggestion, be sure you are not unknowingly reinforcing this behavior. Make sure he knows the behavior is unacceptable before any attention is bestowed upon him. Praise him when he does well, correct him when he does wrong. (Just a thought.) Good luck and post some pictures!

Check out Katie Scarlett and Company, KS's new site (includes magazine):
Katie Scarlett and Company

And email her at:
katiescarlettorattie@gmail.com


BobDog


Obsessed
Obsessed
02/12/2008 8:33 PM  
Our friend's JRT used to growl regularly. (He just growled, he never was aggressive or tried to bite.) They finally got him neutered about 8-10 months ago. He was about 3 years old at that time. Now he's much healthier and he's stopped growling.

Along with the other tips given here the neutering will help a lot.

Good Luck and Welcome!!!

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dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/12/2008 8:43 PM  
Hey Bob Dog, did you get another rattie yet?

Nosey.

lol

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
BobDog


Obsessed
Obsessed
02/12/2008 8:52 PM  
Hey Missy thread jacker~

Not yet. Read my post in the rescue forum titled 'We met Jack today" for the story.

Do you still have my number?

I could use a pep talk.

Lori

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dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/12/2008 9:12 PM  
Ah let me see....


I'm not sure. Just sitting down to dinner. Keep in touch. Yes I think I have your number. You need a pep talk?






Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
02/13/2008 9:53 AM  
Welcome to you and bless you for bringing this dog to a loving home. This is a great site for advice, but I'll defer to those with kiddoes on responding to this one.

ps: Jan, I adore the chocolates gobbling smiley!
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
02/13/2008 11:42 AM  

good morning! all! you all of you still looking for more ratties to add to your rat-pak here is a GREAT web site! they e-mail me everytime there is a rat availible that I have pre-selected my area and type of dog,(they send me all there rats and rat mixes) most every day I get a pix of a dog and its bio to review its really cool! this would be good to put in a more central location but check it out! it 1-800-save-a-pet.com


Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules!
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
02/14/2008 8:20 AM  
Thanks for sharing that site, Linda. I've saved it to my pc so I can refer to it on other forums/groups, too.
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