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Mitzy's Mom

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| 12/12/2007 8:01 AM |
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Do you find it sometimes both harder AND easier to train rat terriers vs other breeds simply because they are so smart? I mean do they learn things so quickly that they start "doing" it without being told?
It's hard to explain via text but for example with Arabian horses (very smart horses) once you teach the more advanced things like sidepass or flying lead change you have to be VERY careful with your cues because they'll anticipate and start into it early.
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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alice4512

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| 12/12/2007 8:19 AM |
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I think I know what you mean, what I think I find with terriers is you think you are teaching them one thing but they may be learning another. For example, I wanted to teach Fred to go into his "armchair bed" at night, so I would tell him "go to bed" and then as soon as he jumped in his chair I would say "your the best boy" and tuck him in, yes my dogs are spoiled, anyway one day we are in the living room and my boyfriend says "Fred is the best boy isn't he" well Fred goes up and goes in his bed. It was the Best Boy he picked up on not the go to bed. Ya know what I mean.
The other thing I find I have a hard time with, and still do, is getting them to work without the clicker and treats. They will do a command once or twice and when there is just praise and no treats they are like "nope aint' doin it again til we see some food". My dogs literally "Will Work For Food", I am trying to keep them consistant on praise only and we are struggling they know the reward should be food and they wait for it. |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~ Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue |
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BonitaKaz

 Bratty Ratty

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| 12/12/2007 8:26 AM |
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I think I know what you mean MB. Without realizing it I do certain hand gesters for certain commands. As soon as Nibbler sees me start to do the gester he'll go straight into what I was going to say, so then i have to change it up. I suppose that's good if, god forbid, he ever goes deaf? |
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*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika! |
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mario07

 Bratty Ratty

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| 12/12/2007 8:41 AM |
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MB, I have to laugh because I know exactly what you are talking about. Dogs read our body language better than verbal commands. After reading "The Other End of the Leash", I wanted to test some of the theories described in the book. I began paying close attention to MY body language right down to where my toes were pointing. I can now use "sign language" with NO speaking to get Mario to sit, stay, down, come, etc. I was truly amazed! Ratties are extremely smart and pick up on every little thing. I truly believe it's harder to train people than it is to train these little babies!  |
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~~Shannon, Mario and Pepper's mom!~~
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alice4512

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| 12/12/2007 8:41 AM |
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It is good as I have read dogs will respond quicker and more accurately to hand signals. With my two I don't really say commands as much as I use hand signals with them. That way if they are across the yard and I need them to come I can just signal. They also know when I am running across the yard with my arms flailing everywhere to stop whatever it is they are doing, eating, digging, ripping, shredding, maiming or biting and stare at me like "Whad we do?".   |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~ Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue |
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BonitaKaz

 Bratty Ratty

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| 12/12/2007 8:55 AM |
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| lol I love hearing stories about Fred and Alice, they are two michief makers for sure. |
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*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika! |
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 12/12/2007 9:34 AM |
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Oh Fred and Alice crack me up! They could have a TV series.
Glad y'all knew what I meant. And YES to the hand signals! Without realizing it as soon as my hand would approach Mayfly's or Mitzy's butt they would already be sitting. Also, just now talking about this I realized that they DO know what it means when I point one finger at them. (You know, like you do to warn a child? Bill always laughs at me for that (like I'll point at one of them to stop barking or stealing Loco's chewie or whatever) BUT they listen.
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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alice4512

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| 12/12/2007 9:46 AM |
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That TV series would have to be sponsored by National Lampoons!! , It's so funny that I was so afraid to adding a second dog but they are buddies. I swear on my life I laugh almost eveynight at those two. It's kind of like even though Fred is our Alpha dog, he gets in more trouble just from hanging out with Alice, but it's good honest doggie trouble .
I have read for agility trials and dog competitions it is so much better to use hand signals to guide your dog as opposed to your voice. I think it's definately the way to train. It seems easier to, instead of standing there going sit, sit, siiiiiit, sit, come on siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Just to hold a fist up until they do. |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~ Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue |
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BonitaKaz

 Bratty Ratty

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| 12/12/2007 9:57 AM |
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| That's what I do, a hand up to sit, then I jerk my wrist up for jump, lower my hand palm down for lay, snap my fingers for bark and make circles with my wrist for dance. |
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*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika! |
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alice4512

 Firehouse Big Dog

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| 12/12/2007 10:23 AM |
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The hand signal's are sometimes hard to come up with!! We do a fist for sit, palm down for down, palm out for stay, a downward motion chop pass the hip for come and the I love you sign to wave, people laugh when we leave the house we say "okay love you guys" and give them the I love you hand sign and they wave bye bye!! |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~ Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue |
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BonitaKaz

 Bratty Ratty

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| 12/12/2007 10:25 AM |
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| That's cute! I wonder if I can teach nibbler to do that. We're not doing so good on shake right now since SOMEONE won't let me grab his paws.. but he's ok when I clip his nails... weirdo |
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*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika! |
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alice4512

 Firehouse Big Dog

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| 12/12/2007 10:30 AM |
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How I taught this was to make the I love you sign with your hands and hold the treat with under your middle and ring finger that are bent over. Let your dog start pawing at your hand first and click (or praise) and give treat til he gets the idea to paw at your hand, then move you hand away til he is just pawing at the air and click (or praise) and treat like crazy, he will get the l love you sign means wave! |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~ Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue |
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rattytatty

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| 12/12/2007 1:58 PM |
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I trained Bailey to do that... now am training him NOT to do it... (long story). I created a monster with that trick. I have found Bailey to be right up there with german shepherds as far as ease of training. I've trained some jack russell terriers and have found them to be highly intelligent, but also highly stubborn. That's the trait I also see in rat terriers. They catch on so quickly... but they have to have the incentive to WANT to do what is asked of them... and even after they have a command down pat, they can be distracted to the point where they act like they've never heard the command before. German Shepherds .. in my opinion... are more consistent with their responsiveness. Once they have it... they have it and are not as likely to be distracted. But as far as general intelligence, I would put the rat terriers right up there with poodles and german shepherds... |
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spence9118

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| 12/12/2007 3:54 PM |
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Charlie is by far the most stubborn dog I have ever known. He will NOT do anything with out a treat and it has to be a really good one at that. But he is comming around a little he will sit when I say it with out a treat for the most part so I have just been working with him a lot just trying to get him to stay and come wich he has the hardest time doing. The one trick I love that he does is his bow..Its so cute when he does it! |
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Erica- Charlie and Tucker's Mommy
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