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Apollo's Mommy


Feisty
Feisty
06/16/2007 5:08 PM  

I know that there are a lot of people who think dogs don't have 'real feelings' or emotions.  But I think they do.  Here's my case...

When ever I leave for ANY amount of time and my son or Brad is home with Apollo ( my son is NEVER left home alone for more than an hour ) they always call me and tell me that he sits by the door for like an hour to an hour and a half.  Then, once that time has passed he'll go into his crate and sulk.  My son says he tries to get him to play fetch, tug of war, etc.  but Apollo shows no interest.  Today I was gone for about 3.5 hours and I called to let Brad know I was on my way home.  I asked what the pups were doing... Emma was laying with Brad on the couch and Apollo was in his crate.  Brad said he tried to get Apollo to lay with them but he just sulked to his crate and stayed there.  When I came home ( APollo can hear the garage door ) Apollo was there at the door leading from the garage to the house ready to greet me.  Tail wagging like crazy and everything.  My concern is that I think Apollo gets REALLY depressed when I'm gone.  I can't understand why.  When the pups are left crated because no one is home I always leave KONGS or other 'busy' things for them to do in their crates.  I hate the thought of Apollo being soooo sad when I'm gone.  Even when someone is here, like I said he just sulks.  I'm with Apollo ( and Emma ) 99.9% of the day because I work from home so he is rarely crated or away from me.  And yes, if I can take him with me I will.  So he's used to going practically EVERYWHERE with me.  But sometimes I just CAN'T take him.  Does anyone have any thought or opinions on this?

 

Oh yeah... Emma isn't bothered by my absense.  Nothing fases this little girl! 


"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White

~ Jolene ~
Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie

pregnancy
Paul


Feisty
Feisty
06/16/2007 5:13 PM  

Awwwww, Jolene, that's sad, but oh so sweet, too.  He just totally LOVES you!


"Train now, or forever hold your leash"

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Brandy


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
06/16/2007 5:17 PM  
Hey Jolene, don't feel bad. If my Mom leaves her JRT he will literally howl the entire time she is gone!!!!!! Drives my Dad nuts...it's honestly the reason he built his workshop....so he can go out there while Sparky sits in the house and howls!

This is Pirate Country, we bleed Purple and Gold!!!!!

GO ECU!!!
Apollo's Mommy


Feisty
Feisty
06/16/2007 5:19 PM  

Thanks, ya'll. Apollo doesn't howl or bark or have destructive behavior or anything like that. Maybe I've just got him S-P-O-I-L-E-D!!!


"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White

~ Jolene ~
Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie

pregnancy
bratt


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
06/16/2007 5:55 PM  

Jolene, Apollo is just missing you.  He seems o.k. tho. Just some of these pups are more sensitive than others. When I'm gone during the day, Savanna is fine. However, once I get home, she can't get close enough to me. (my Mom lets the girls out during the day when I'm at work, Savvy just chases the cats or lays in the shade.)


Debra~KSSM Queen II
Savanna~Princess Easy Street
JenMax


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
06/16/2007 6:02 PM  
Apollo loves you Jolene! Max can't be left alone - only when my mom is in the store, or they are mowing the lawn.

Jenny - Max's sister

amletpumpkin


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/16/2007 6:16 PM  
I have a very similar situation, jolene. Amlet is extremely attached to me. Pumpkin hates when I leave, but she gets over it. Amlet on the other hand barks and growls and has even bitten at my ankles so I won't leave. It goes on after I leave too. I'm not sure there is much you can do about it, its just how they feel. I'm sure its not as bad as we think it is, because they don't have emotions exactly like us. Its still heartbreaking, i know!
Apollo's Mommy


Feisty
Feisty
06/16/2007 6:46 PM  
Yeah, Apollo knows when I'm leaving. And he just expects to go! He'll sit in front of the door like he thinks he's going too! I have to get Brad or Cody to hold him then I have to 'just go'. and that hurts alot. I tell him when I get home that I love and missed him too. I guess I should just be thankful that I don't have to leave him very often.

"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White

~ Jolene ~
Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie

pregnancy
Annie's Mom


Ratterific
Ratterific
06/16/2007 9:14 PM  

When I leave Annie I try and sound very upbeat and not let her hear any guilt in my voice. It was pretty bad for a while until I started doing that. Ratties are very smart they know how to Manipulate us.

Caesar & Julia's mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
06/16/2007 10:59 PM  
Awwww poor Apollo. He must just really love you and know how much you love him too~~
Caesar use to be like that(well not quite as bad as Apollo) until we adopted Jullia. She is his shadow now and the two of them play so much together...I'm the one who feels guilty when I can't take them with me...

Diane~ loved by Caesar and Julia

"Don't count the days, make the days count..."
JRT_Rattie_Mom


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/17/2007 4:57 AM  

~ Jolene ~  Maybe you could still give Mario his Kong (or another special treat that he only gets when you leave) even when he's home with Brad or your son? If Apollo enjoys his Kong (or other goodies) when you are all gone, he would most likely still enjoy them even when just  you will be gone... and would spend his time with the Kong, instead of standing by the door? Since you work at home most of the time it sounds like Apollo hasn't experienced being left home "X" number of hours 5 days per week, like many dogs do.  My 2 just know that if we get up to the alarm clock then it's a "work day" and they know the routine of a work day. I always put my shoes on last before I leave the house, and as soon as they hear me walking in my shoes they both go to their crates without even being told (though they don't have doors on their crates)  and wait for their "goodbye cookie" they get every morning when I leave for work. I always talk to them in a really "cheery" voice and tell them I'm going to work so I can bring home the dog food & treats --   -- and that I'll see them soon! Dogs really have no real concept of time... if you've even noticed when you go to the mail box for 1 minute and come back in... they act like you've been gone for hours??  Mine just understand "weekend days" because all of us girlies LOVE to sleep in... and when there's no alarm to wake us up... then we all know it's fun time all day/all night long!

 


Karen G.
Lucy (JRT) & Holly (Rat Terrier)
Blind Dog Resources & Adoptions
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Apollo's Mommy


Feisty
Feisty
06/17/2007 10:58 AM  
Thanks guys. I do talk to Apollo cheerfully when I have to leave him. I tell him and Emma goodbye but not in a sad voice just a simple goodbye and be good.

"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White

~ Jolene ~
Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie

pregnancy
Bama's Mom 1


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/18/2007 10:26 AM  
It is heartbreaking! Bama will lie on the rug in the bedroom and look at me with the most pitiful, sad expression ever while I'm getting ready. It's really worse right now because I am home with him most every day. I hope Ali will help. I don't know if I could stand having 2 of them look at me that way.

Trina, mom to Ali & Bama

" ... work can wait another 30 minutes. There are more important things to do. Like throwing sticks."

www.trina4ua.blogspot.com
PamWh


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
06/18/2007 10:37 AM  
Yes, Bob tries to guilt me when I leave too. But hubby says that he is fine 5 minutes later. As long as Apollo isn't being destructive, I think it is fine for him to sulk in his crate.

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
Katie'sMom


Newbie
Newbie
06/18/2007 11:25 AM  
Oh, he just misses you -- but Karen is right, they have no concept of time. Now, when I leave I tell my girls I'll be back in 10 minutes. Even if I'm gone and hour, I tell them 10 minutes. Hahahaha. He's okay, he bounces back when you return home, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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