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spence9118


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:02 PM  

'Ol Roy is THE WORST food you can feed you dogs? I am seriously going to kill him! We usually switch off buying dog food, and it is his turn. Guess what he got them........'Ol Roy!!!!!!!!! He knows what they usually get which is Canidae but because he didnt want to drive a few miles further (the Walmart is less than 5 min. away....Good pet store is about 10 min.) he bought that crap! I have showed him the dog food analysis website but he still doesnt believe me! It really not good that I am pretty much broke or I would get rid of that bag now! But dont worry, they are still not eating that crap! I still have enough raw food to last them another week until I get paid. I usually feed them kibble in the morning and raw at night. So for the time being the are getting all raw. I would like to feed the just raw but it is a little too pricey for me at the moment.

 

Do any of you have any suggestions how I can prove to him that it does matter what the eat!


Erica- Charlie and Tucker's Mommy

www.myspace.com/ricka9118

Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
06/06/2008 5:07 PM  
Smack him? LOL I don't know unless you can get him to read the dogfood analysis site or www.dogfoodproject.com

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
at www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc
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http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
tford6


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/06/2008 5:08 PM  
The only thing I can say is don't let him buy it.My husband would not what kind to buy inless I tell him exactly.

Terri- mom to Abby Bella and Chloe the girls
spence9118


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:13 PM  
Oh he knows what kind of food they usually get! He has been to that store with me multiple times he is just too dang lazy to drive another 5 min! MB Oh I smacked him when I saw he bought that stuff too bad Im too weak to actually hurt him!

Erica- Charlie and Tucker's Mommy

www.myspace.com/ricka9118

Yukon Cornelius


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:27 PM  

Maybe you should feed him a plate of "crap" for dinner tonight and see how he likes eating something that is devoid of nutrition.  Just kidding. . . . .


We'll have to outwit the fiend with our superior intelligence.

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Noodles n Me


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:29 PM  
How about some Top Raman (sp). Isn't that the cheapest people food on the market? Tell him he has a choice for dinner cheap noodles or cheap dog food! Hit em where it counts.

There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!!
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kimrose


Feisty
Feisty
06/06/2008 5:31 PM  
lol, sorry, I don't mean to giggle, but I went through the same thing with Mic and my boyfriend! Mic was eating Nutro (I think at that time) and Kevin didn't feel like driving the extra miles to buy it, so he bought kibbles n bits! I printed out facts/ingredients... he didn't seem to be bothered.

I think what switched him in the end was my constant bugging him about it, and the fact that Mic was throwing up A LOT! and over sleepy, and his poo was huge and very smelly! So basically Mic helped a bunch in the matter

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Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 5:58 PM  

Ingredients in Ol' Roy Puppy Formula, "Beef Flavored" (only kind I could find the ingredients of)


Ground yellow corn, meat and bone meal, corn gluten meal, soybean meal, animal fat (preserved with BHA and citric acid), chicken by product meal, animal digest (source of beef flavor), brewers rice, salt, caramel color calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, chlorine chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, vitamin E supplement, niacin, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine monontrate, menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, riboflavin supplement, cobalt carbonate, folic acid and sodium selenite.

First, the ingredients highlighed in yellow...

The first ingredients is Ground yellow corn. Corn is believed to be the source of many grain allergies, and is a low quality grain. Since ingredients are weighed and listed from heaviest to lightest, this means that the ingredients that make up most of the product are listed irst, so corn makes up most of the food in regards to each individual ingredient.

Corn appears yet again as Corn Gluten Meal, which is basically what is left after all the nutritiouse parts are removed.

Soybean is another low quality, problomatic grain.

By-product meal usually consist of low quality sources of protein, like heads, feet, bon,...exclusive of feathers for the most part.

Brewers rice is a processed rice product that is missing many of the nutrients contained in whole ground rice and brown rice.

The amount of Salt is pretty high here, and seems to be used as a flavoring.

Any kind of coloring (caramel color here) has no place in a dog food.

This food also contains many oxides and sulfates, which are not harmful but are poorly absorbed and thus mostly useless.

 

Now everything in red....

This product contains MANY unspecified meat sources (animal digest, meat and bone meal, animal fat) qwhich can be from any animal. This includes dead zoo animals, roadkill, 4D animals (dead, disabled, dieing, dead) and even euthanized cats and dogs. Also, the drug used to put pets to sleep survives the rendering process and makes it into the food, and the tags, collars, and  plastic bags on the animals are usually not removed.

BHA has been banned from human use in many countries, and is believed to cause carcinogenic in animals.

Menadione sodium bisulfate complex is a synthetic version of vitamin K and has been linked to many seriouse health issues. Go here for more info on Menadione:

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione

Honestly, this has to be the worst food I have yet seen. Forget Science Diet. This offers little nutritional value at all, and has quite a few ingredients that could be labeled as 'hazordous'


Sara, Sam's mommy
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/06/2008 6:00 PM  

Try showing him THIS website...it is what I used above and has actual AAFCO definitions....

www.dogfoodproject.com/


Sara, Sam's mommy
Susan


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/07/2008 2:03 AM  
The best thing you can do is just buy the dog food yourself and give up on your boyfreind. If a guy don't wanta learn anything new he won't! You can take the bag back to the store if you have the receit and then go get what you want to feed your dogs. But I am telling you it doesn't do any good to try to change your boyfreinds mind. If he were at all interested in what you feed your dogs you wouldn't be having this problem.

ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH OVERDOING Mom of eight, only three left at home! Pack leader to ten ratties: Maggie, Mysty, Berry, Simon, Ceecee and five puppies, Star,Sari, Bluebelle, Double stuf,and Snortie. As well as Ginger the Border Collie and a herd of turkeys!
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
06/07/2008 8:56 AM  

Seriously.  Don't let him buy the food.  Problem solved!


Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



rattagan's mom


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/07/2008 10:17 AM  
I agree with those who say buy the food yourself, it's easier and less hassle for you that way. You can't change another person's mind, male or female if they have it set that their way is alright. However if you feed the dogs that crap and they gassed him really good that may help. But you have to hope they fart right in his face and not yours. I have discovered that cheap food makes for stinky, stinky gas. Bad enough to make even the dogs run from their own farts. Ratty would eat it and puke on him for ya. Or make him go out and clean up the poop if they eat that. That should turn his stomach.

Best thing is to do it yourself. Thank God Phil wants only the best for our babies and our fosters.

Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom

Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L.
k_dmom33


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/07/2008 12:11 PM  
have him give you the money and you go buy it. My husband would buy Western Family brand dog food if I let him. I finally had to tell him unless you want to spend tons of money on vet bills paying for Laceys food allergies then you better get HER food (I feed NB duck and potato). I usually get the food, but I sent him to the store once for it with explicit instructions on what to get. I wrote down the name for him and told him to call me when he got there. I was a little nervous because he had no clue how much $ it cost (compared to the crap food) But he surprised me and didnt blink an eye at it. I think the vet bill comment hit home with him.

~~Teresa~~
Teddy's Mom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/07/2008 11:47 PM  
It took awhile for me to get my hubby to understand. I showed him book "Dog Nutrition for Dummies". Now he reads the label. But Sampson can only handle the cheap stuff for some reason. But Teddy gets raw. I like MB's option of smackin' him upside the head. Watch yard sales for a cast iron frying pan and use that next time. He'll get the idea after that.

Tabitha
spence9118


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/12/2008 4:41 PM  
I finally got paid so I went and bought a big bag of Canidae so it should last us a while! But I think Im just going to have to drag his butt to the store next time we need food. I dont trust him on his own anymore! Thanks for the advice! He did feed them the ol roy for a couple of days and now Tucker is shedding like crazy!!! Brandon did notice how smelly thier farts have been though so I doubt he will buy them that crap again!

Erica- Charlie and Tucker's Mommy

www.myspace.com/ricka9118

alice4512


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
06/12/2008 4:47 PM  

I usually go buy Canidae by myself ONLY because when Guy is with me he always says "what are you buying them bully sticks for too?" "Why do they need new toys?" and "What are you getting them now?' Our store that sells Canidae is quite a way so when I go I stock up on everything they "need" LOL.  He just doesn't understand, he thinks they have enough and are spoiled.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue
Shadows Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
06/12/2008 6:17 PM  
Candidae is very good, but Shadow was allergic to it... so after a few weeks of that scratching and stuff... I slowly switched him over to Duck N' Potato which is an allergy formula food... He loves it and it is great... the only problem... it costs MORE than Candidae. Our spoiled babies. He even drinks bottled water and knows the difference when my roommate gives him tap water. He is spoiled rotten. But I absolutely love him and will do anything to keep him with a shinny coat and happy feet...
Tell your bf that it is like eatting cheap cereal with water.... no nutrition value at all.

Shadow's Mom

Laugh, dance and drink like nobody's watching cause life is too short.
PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
06/13/2008 12:11 PM  
I'm trying to convince my mom to feed her dog better food than Mighty Dog and Pedigree canned food. His teeth, breath, and coat are horrible. I bring over baggies of Bob's food and he just loves it.

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
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