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farmergurlyo


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/29/2008 5:58 PM  

what's the difference between puppy food and dog food? Is Canidae all life stages ok for puppies also?


Ashley~
mommy to rattie kairi
justan0therjess


Newbie
Newbie
05/29/2008 6:04 PM  
i think puppy food has more calories that they need when they're younger..
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/29/2008 6:10 PM  

In all the dog food articles I've read that mentioned it, the writer found no real reason for specific "life stages". It really sounds like just a gimmick by food companies to sell their product. The woman who created dogfoodproject.com had this to say about specific life stages:

This is what pet food manufacturers want you to believe, but it is just a way to secure their customer base early on and increase sales. The more items in a particular line of food, the higher the visibility of their product on a store shelf - an of course the more likely people are to buy and stick with the brand through the whole life of the animal. Fact is that a food declared as suitable "for all lifestages" will feed a growing puppy just as well as a lactating bitch, an adult or a senior dog - just the amounts you have to feed will change. Puppy and senior food is often more expensive than the regular type of food of the same brand, yet does not differ much in nutritional value. Compare the guaranteed analysis and ingredient list.

Further, puppy food can cause large and giant breed puppies to grow at maximum rate, which is not healthy for them. A slower, more even growth results in far less risk of orthopedic problems and a healthier adult dog.

I would ingore what 'life stage' it's suppose to be and look right at the ingredients list.


Sara, Sam's mommy
farmergurlyo


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/29/2008 6:26 PM  
well it has good ingredients, and it says it's for all stages of life... i just thought puppies were supposed to eat different dog food...

Ashley~
mommy to rattie kairi
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
05/29/2008 6:47 PM  
A vet told me years ago most puppy chow has dried milk powder in it. If you feed it to an adult dog they will really gain the weight on all the extra calories. But I don't think I have ever verified that on an ingredient list.
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/29/2008 7:59 PM  
I feed Sam Canidae All Life, and yes, it is a very good food! Your pup should be fine!

Sara, Sam's mommy
Erinj09


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/30/2008 1:58 AM  
is that what you fed sam when he/she was a puppy? or if they were adopted, how old were they when you started feeding them canidea?

Proud owner of a rat terrier resides here.
Kahlua is my new puppy,Olive is my kitty-kat, Oh and 3 fish (Bonnie, Indiana Jones, and Rafiki) lol I love my animals hehe

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away"
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
05/30/2008 7:12 AM  
Canidae is a very high quality food and fine for puppies!

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

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swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
05/30/2008 8:43 AM  
Not that it means much(heehee) but my vet basically told me the same thing about puppy food. With large breeds you have to be careful, but for most dogs the "stages" are not as important. Canidae is a great food and it is meant to be fed to a dog in any stage of life. I think that would be a good choice for you and your new pup.

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/30/2008 3:47 PM  

Posted By Erinj09 on 05/30/2008 1:58 AM
is that what you fed sam when he/she was a puppy? or if they were adopted, how old were they when you started feeding them canidea?

 My family didn't know anything about dog nutrition when we first got Sam. We got him from a not-so-good BYB. She had A LOT of dogs (perhaps around 40!) that were mostly in crates. They weren't in really terrible, filthy conditions or anything you would classify as "puppy millish", but it wasn't a good place either. We got him there because my family really didn't know anything about what to look for in a breeder.

 So, we fed him pedigree. We thought is was good stuff at first (it's actually one of the worst brands out there) The reason being because his coat and condition actually IMPROVED after we got him off the stuff the breeder was feeding him. I don't remember what it was, but it must have been some really horrid stuff.

 Lesson learned, thanks to this site and the wonderful people on it! We started feeding Sam Canidae a few months ago, shortly after coming here. (took my parents a while to be convinced to buy a -gasp- 'expensive' dog food, but then I told them about the whole 'dead pets in dog food' story) He has been doing great! His coat is a lot healthier, and he has a lot more energy...though he's still quite the couch potatoe.

 But I'm rambling now...honestly, I haven't found anything 'special' in a puppy formula that I couldn't find in an 'adult' formula from or not from the same brand. And I've yet to see a good dog food that has certain 'life stages' other than 'all life stages'.

Here's an example for Iams puppy formula vs. one of their 'adult' formulas:

 

Iams ProActive Health Puppy Ingredients

Chicken, Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Meal, Chicken Flavor, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Caramel, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Calcium Carbonate, DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extract.

 

Iams ProActive Health Active Maturity

Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken, Dried Egg Product, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken Flavor, Potassium Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Flax Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Caramel, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.

 

I highlighted everything that is in both the 'puppy formula' and in that 'adult' formula.

As you can see, almost every ingredient in the puppy formula is also in the adult formula. Only two ingredients in the puppy food differ. It's like they took all the same ingredients and just differed the amounts with some of them.


Sara, Sam's mommy
farmergurlyo


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/30/2008 7:17 PM  
great!!! good to know that my pup will be good with this food! thanks!

Ashley~
mommy to rattie kairi
Erinj09


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/31/2008 12:28 PM  
haha when i went to fred meyers with my friend, she asked if i was going to feel my puppy that stuff and i just went to one bag (pedigree) and i just kept saying thats bad thats ad yup thats bad too, and i just went down the list, the majority was bad, and all ecasue i decided to come on this site and learn more before getting a puppy, and im glad i did!

Proud owner of a rat terrier resides here.
Kahlua is my new puppy,Olive is my kitty-kat, Oh and 3 fish (Bonnie, Indiana Jones, and Rafiki) lol I love my animals hehe

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away"
tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/31/2008 4:56 PM  
I had heard about puppy formulas being not so great for large breeds (makes them put on too much weight/muscle before their bones are strong enough to support the weight) when I got Rosie, so she never had puppy food, and neither did the ratties...they've all always eaten "adult" dog food. I recently switched them all to Canidae all life stages, and they love it.

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
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