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Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 3:16 PM  

 Came across these while shopping today, and was wondering if anyone else has tried these, or what you guys think of them. The large 4 lbs rolls were about $10, and they had small samples for $1 at PetCo. I was thinking of getting one of the smaller ones and mixing it with Sam's dog food just to see what it does.

 Unopened rolls can last 12 months in the closet, and opened ones have to be refrigerated...I don't know how long they last when opened.

Here's something from their website:

http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/DFRolls.html

 

PRODUCT INFORMATION

What you can doNatural Balance® Dog Food Rolls have been scientifically formulated by veterinarians and animal nutritionists to provide high quality nutrition and optimize skin and coat condition. Rich in nutrients and energy, a 4 lb. Roll is equal to any 10 -13 oz Premium Dog Food Cans. Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are economical, convenient, and great for travel!

Excellent Training Treat or Reward For the enthusiast, trainer, show handler or breeder, Natural Balance® is the #1 Choice for the ultimate in bait, response time, incredible focus, fabulous palatability as well as excellent nutrition.

TreatA Great Choice for Convalescing Dogs Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are hard to resist for older or convalescing dogs, and a great way to hide medication. See some Testimonials.

The Finest Ingredients for the Health of Your Dog Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls contain only the finest ingredients: premium meats, no by-products, (an excellent source of protein), and dried kelp (an excellent natural source of vitamins, mineral and trace elements). The high quality animal fats (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, source of vitamin E, and ascorbic acid – vitamin C) helps your dog have a healthy skin and a shiny coat. Highly palatable, Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are very appealing to both the owner and, more importantly, to the dog.

Either chop, grate, or crumble Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls and add them to your dog's dry food.

DAILY FEEDING & MIXING GUIDE FOR ADULT DOGS
Weight of Dog (lbs)
Full Feed
Mixed w/Dry Dog Food
Under 10 lbs.
1.5"
1/2"
Toy (18 lbs.)
2"
1"
Small (25 lbs.)
2.5"
1.5"
Medium (50 lbs.)
4.5"
2"
Large (80 lbs.)
6"
3"
* Feeding guide based on a 2.5 lb. roll
FEEDING MANAGEMENT

PreciousFull Feed or Add To Dry: Our Dog Food Rolls provide your dog with concentrated nutrition. The 4 lb. roll contains as much calories as 10-13 oz cans of premium canned dog food, and may be used as a full feed or mixed with Natural Balance® dry dog food. Simply chop, grate, or crumble the Roll and add them to your dog's food.

For Growing Puppies Our Dog Food Rolls can be mixed with Natural Balance® Ultra Premium Dry to ease the weaning process and stimulate their appetite. Mixing Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls with Natural Balance® Ultra Premium Dry Food provides the growing puppy with complete and balanced nutrition. The high palatability of this mixture will also make weaning easier.

Adult Dogs Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are both nutrient and energy dense. Our Dog Food Rolls contain a superior mixture of animal and grain products as well as our special vitamin and mineral mixture. You can feed Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls as a full feed, an excellent addition to Natural Balance® Dry food, or as a delicious healthy treat.

Roll GratingFor Older Dogs, Our Rolls also mix well with senior diets to kindle to the appetite! Older dogs lose their keen sense of smell and taste. This combined with less activity can lead to a reduction in food intake. The natural flavor and high palatability of Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls can stimulate the appetite of older dogs. Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are energy dense, therefore, smaller amounts will satisfy nutritional requirements of older dogs.

For Pregnant/Lactating Females, Adding our Rolls satisfies the increased caloric requirement. A gradual increase in food intake is necessary starting around week 8 or 9 of pregnancy. By adding Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls to the regular diet, their increased caloric requirement will be satisfied. Lactation is a highly demanding period of time. The need for nutrients will increase up to three times the maintenance levels during the 3rd to 5th week of lactation. Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls are rich in nutrients and energy, making them perfect as an addition to Natural Balance® Dry dog food.

Also great for picky eaters! When introducing a new diet to your dog, it should be done gradually over 3 to 5 days. Replacing the current food with increasing proportions of Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls prevents digestive upsets and helps to make a smooth dietary transition.

STORAGE

The unopened Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls can be kept at room temperature for up to 12 months. Please refrigerate rolls upon opening. We suggest to refrigerate rolls at the time of purchase to preserve its full flavor. For Extended Storage, Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls should be frozen
INGREDIENT LISTING 
LAMB FORMULA ROLL

Lamb, Lamb Lungs, Wheat Flour, Wheat Bran, Lamb Hearts, Lamb Meal, Rice Flour, Sucrose, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Egg, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Glycerin, Lecithin, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Natural Smoke Flavor, Ascorbic Acid, Natural Flavor, Powdered Garlic, Vitamin E Supplement, Kelp Meal, Brewers Yeast, Calcium Disodium, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Rosemary Extract, Canola Oil, Sodium Erythorbate, Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Nitrite, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Menadione Bisulfate Complex, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Mixed Tocopherols.

TURKEY FORMULA ROLL 

Turkey, Wheat Flour, Wheat Bran, Turkey Meal, Turkey Liver, Rice Flour, Sucrose, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Egg, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Glycerin, Lecithin, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Natural Smoke Flavor, Ascorbic Acid, Natural Flavor, Powdered Garlic, Vitamin E Supplement, Kelp Meal, Brewers Yeast, Calcium Disodium, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Rosemary Extract, Canola Oil, Sodium Erythorbate, Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Nitrite, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Menadione Bisulfate Complex, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Mixed Tocopherols.

BEEF FORMULA ROLL   

Beef, Beef Lungs, Wheat Flour, Sucrose, Beef Kidney, Wheat Bran, Rice Flour, Beef Spleen, Beef Fat, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Egg, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Glycerin, Lecithin, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Natural Smoke Flavor, Ascorbic Acid, Natural Flavor, Powdered Garlic, Vitamin E Supplement, Kelp Meal, Brewers Yeast, Calcium Disodium, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Rosemary Extract, Canola Oil, Sodium Erythorbate, Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Nitrite, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Menadione Bisulfate Complex, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Mixed Tocopherols.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein 11.0% minimum
Crude Fat 6.0% minimum
Crude Fiber 4.0% maximum
Moisture 40.0% maximum

Natural Balance® is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the A.A.F.C.O. dog food nutrient profile for adult maintenance.

 


Sara, Sam's mommy
Zogman100


Ratastic
Ratastic
04/17/2008 3:24 PM  

I had bought a few of the dollar sample sizes for Fredo a while back when I saw them at Petco. Fredo Loved them as a treat every now and then. I haven't bought anymore yet. Interested on seeing others opinions.

 


It's times like these we learn to live again...
It's times like these we give and give again...
It's times like these we learn to love again...
It's times like these time and time again.

Steven,
Daddy to my best friend, Fredo!
Spanky's Mom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 3:47 PM  

I have bought something simular Made by Pet Botanics. All natural, no artificial preservatives, No BHA,BHT or Ethoxyquinn,No corn,No whey.

 
Pet Botanics Rolled Meat - PetSmart
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Product Description: Item: 2750422
Clean, fast and easy to serve, this wholesome food may be fed as a staple diet, mixed with kibble or offered as a special treat. Makes a great training reward!
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When you own a Rattie....you KNOW you are in your right mind

THE MEANING OF RESCUE

Now that I'm home, bathed, settled and fed,
All nicely tucked in my warm new bed.
I'd like to open my baggage
Lest I forget,
There is so much to carry -
So much to regret.
Hmm... Yes there it is, right on the top
Let's unpack Loneliness, Heartache and Loss,
And there by my leash hides Fear and Shame.
As I look on these things I tried so hard to leave -
I still have to unpack my baggage called Pain.
I loved them, the others, the ones who left me,
But I wasn't good enough - for they didn't want me.
Will you add to my baggage?
Will you help me unpack?
Or will you just look at my things -
And take me right back?
Do you have the time to help me unpack?
To put away my baggage,
To never repack?
I pray that you do - I'm so tired you see,
But I do come with baggage -
Will you still want me?
Ski


Ratastic
Ratastic
04/17/2008 4:16 PM  

Sugar,  menadione,  sodium nitrite?  No thanks.  I'm very picky about what my dogs eat, and I don't like those ingredients.  The protein and fat seem pretty low,  so that makes me wonder how much meat is really in it. 

Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 4:17 PM  

thought I'd put up the Pet Botanics ingredients

 

You'll love the versatility of this healthy, tasty food. It provides complete and balanced nutrition for dogs at all life stages. Use it as a staple daily diet, mix it with dry food or offer as a special treat. Contains healthy brown rice, rosemary and flax seed. Many trainers recommend using it as a training reward, because every dog loves the great meaty taste. It is shelf stable until opened, then must be refrigerated.

Lamb & Rice Dog Food Roll
Ingredients: Lamb Meat, Lamb Hearts, Lamb Kidneys, Lamb Lungs, Whole Wheat Flour, Brown Rice, Wheat Bran, Lamb Fat (naturally preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid, a source of Vitamin C), Sucrose, Flaxseed Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Modified Food Starch, Sodium Phosphates, Water, Brewer's Yeast, Dried Kelp Meal, Lecithin, Natural Smoke Flavor, Sorbic Acid, Glycerin, Rosemary Extract, Canola Oil, Choline Chloride Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, Riboflaven Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid Supplement, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, D-Biotin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Potassium Iodide, D-Activated Animal Sterols (Source of Vitamin D3) Biotin, Sodium Nitrate (for color), Sodium Selenite.

Savory Beef Dog Food Roll
Ingredients: Beef Hearts, Beef Kidneys, Beef Lungs, Whole Wheat Flour, Brown Rice, Wheat Bran, Beef Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Sucrose, Flaxseed Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Modified Food Starch, Sodium Phosphates, Water, Brewer's Yeast, Dried Kelp Meal, Lecithin, Natural Smoke Flavor, Sorbic Acid, Glycerin, Rosemary Extract, Canola Oil, Choline Chloride Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, Riboflaven Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid Supplement, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, D-Biotin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Potassium Iodide, D-Activated Animal Sterols (Source of Vitamin D3) Biotin, Sodium Nitrate (for color), Sodium Selenite.

Made in the USA.

Available in Savory Beef and Lamb & Rice flavors. Both flavors come in 2.5 lb. and 4.5 lb. rolls.


Sara, Sam's mommy
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
04/17/2008 6:25 PM  
There's a lot of grain in both brands but the Pet Botanics look a little better...still don't like the sodium nitrate in it.
I feed Natural Balance dry kibble (duck/potato) and I've looked at those rolls before but never bought because the ingredients are very different from the healthier kibble. (No sodium, sugar, etc. in the dry). I've also heard that they can moldy fairly easily.

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com; www.newrattitude.org
Spanky's Mom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 6:38 PM  

I also feed NB Potato & Duck (dry)


When you own a Rattie....you KNOW you are in your right mind

THE MEANING OF RESCUE

Now that I'm home, bathed, settled and fed,
All nicely tucked in my warm new bed.
I'd like to open my baggage
Lest I forget,
There is so much to carry -
So much to regret.
Hmm... Yes there it is, right on the top
Let's unpack Loneliness, Heartache and Loss,
And there by my leash hides Fear and Shame.
As I look on these things I tried so hard to leave -
I still have to unpack my baggage called Pain.
I loved them, the others, the ones who left me,
But I wasn't good enough - for they didn't want me.
Will you add to my baggage?
Will you help me unpack?
Or will you just look at my things -
And take me right back?
Do you have the time to help me unpack?
To put away my baggage,
To never repack?
I pray that you do - I'm so tired you see,
But I do come with baggage -
Will you still want me?
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 8:04 PM  

Posted By Mitzy's Mom on 04/17/2008 6:25 PM
There's a lot of grain in both brands but the Pet Botanics look a little better...still don't like the sodium nitrate in it.
I feed Natural Balance dry kibble (duck/potato) and I've looked at those rolls before but never bought because the ingredients are very different from the healthier kibble. (No sodium, sugar, etc. in the dry). I've also heard that they can moldy fairly easily.

 

Question: How is sodium nitrate bad? Sorry, but I've never even heard of this stuff before.

 


Sara, Sam's mommy
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 8:31 PM  

Red Barn also has rolls, and with no sodium nitrate...

 

REDBARN BEEF INGREDIENTS:
BEEF, BEEF LUNG, BEEF LIVER, WHEAT FLOUR, EGG PRODUCT, FLAX SEED, SALT, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM CHLORIDE, SUNFLOWER OIL, DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, CHOLINE CHLORIDE, ROSEMARY, CINNAMON, GARLIC, DL-ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN E), IRON SULFATE, SELENIUM SUPPLEMENT, ZINC OXIDE, COPPER SULFATE, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, NIACIN, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, MANGANOUS OXIDE, VITAMIN A ACETATE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT, D-ACTIVATED ANIMAL STEROL (SOURCE OF VITAMIN D3), ETHYLENE DIAMINE DIHYDRIODIDE (SOURCE OF IODINE), PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN B 6) FOLIC ACID SUPPLEMENT.

REDBARN CHICKEN INGREDIENTS:
CHICKEN, BEEF LUNG, CHICKEN LIVER, CHICKEN HEART, WHEAT FLOUR, EGG PRODUCT, FLAX SEED, SALT, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM CHLORIDE, SUNFLOWER OIL, DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, CHOLINE CHLORIDE, ROSEMARY, CINNAMON, GARLIC, DL-ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN E), IRON SULFATE, SELENIUM SUPPLEMENT, ZINC OXIDE, COPPER SULFATE, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, NIACIN, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, MANGANOUS OXIDE, VITAMIN A ACETATE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT, D-ACTIVATED ANIMAL STEROL (SOURCE OF VITAMIN D3), ETHYLENE DIAMINE DIHYDRIODIDE (SOURCE OF IODINE), PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN B6), FOLIC ACID SUPPLEMENT.

REDBARN LAMB AND RICE INGREDIENTS:
LAMB, LAMB LUNG, BROWN RICE, RICE FLOUR, LAMB LIVER, LAMB MEAL, FLAX SEED, PEAS, CARROTS, SALT, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM CHLORIDE, DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, CHOLINE CHLORIDE, ROSEMARY, CINNAMON, GARLIC, DL-ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN E), IRON SULFATE, SELENIUM SUPPLEMENT, ZINC OXIDE, VITAMIN A ACETATE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT, D-ACTIVATED ANIMAL STEROL (SOURCE OF VITAMIN D3), ETHYLENE DIAMINE DIHYDRIODIDE (SOURCE OF IODINE), PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN B6), FOLIC ACID SUPPLEMENT.

 

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Beef Chicken Lamb & Rice
PROTEIN MIN. 14% PROTEIN MIN. 14% PROTEIN MIN 12%
FAT MIN. 5% FAT MIN. 5% FAT MIN. 7%
FIBER MAX. 1.5% FIBER MAX 1.5% FIBER MAX. 2.63%
MOISTURE MAX. 43% MOISTURE MAX. 43% MOISTURE MAX 48%

DRY WEIGHT ANALYSIS

Beef Chicken Lamb & Rice
PROTEIN 24.56% PROTEIN 24.56% PROTEIN 23.08%
FAT 8.77% FAT 8.77% FAT 13.46%
FIBER 2.63% FIBER 2.63% FIBER 1.92%

Sara, Sam's mommy
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
04/17/2008 8:39 PM  
Sodium is salt and in this case used as a preservative. Too much salt can lead to heart problems in dogs. My guess is that it's used in the rolls because it's harder to keep them fresh compared to the dry food.

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com; www.newrattitude.org
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/17/2008 8:46 PM  
It's amazing how many different names they come up with for just one product...
Thanks MB. So I guess the Red Barn ones would be worse when it comes to salt, because it seems to be further up the list. Maybe these rolls are just something to give your dogs just once and a while.
Salt really isn't so bad if it's used in small quantities, but these things seem to use too much.

Sara, Sam's mommy
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