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Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/04/2008 4:39 PM  

 I've been reading that some pet food brands use euthanized pets in their food! I probably shouldn't be surprised; I mean, beef companies have been rendering unused cow parts and feeding them to other cows, but...but...in our PET food?! It's used in some brands that list their meat ingredients as just "meat" and "animal". They get them from shelters that are having trouble getting rid of the bodies of the thousands of pets being euthanized every year. It's not a common practice, but still...

 Does anyone know if this might be just a rumor? I hope it is...there's something inside me that is just screaming "now way!" dispite the articles I have read on the subject. It sounds like something from that movie "Soylent Green". There is almost nothing lower. Just disgusting.

 

Here's an artical I found on the subject:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0106-03.htm


Sara, Sam's mommy
dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
04/04/2008 4:51 PM  
This has been at the bottom of my mind for almost 10 years now. I googled it and then did my research on what good things you can feed your pets.

I believe what you saying to be true. Pet food companies purchase old unused meats for use in pet foods once they are deemed unsuitable for human consumption. Many times carocene is poured over them to make sure they are not given to humans. I even heard that they do purchase euthanized pets for food.

And you think its chicken and rice or beef. Don't be fooled they just call it whatever they want. Its all the same.

You do your own research. I am very careful about what goes into my babies tummies. My Jimmy was a very sick and allergic pup. I really believe because I gave him the popular brand foods that are really nothing more than garbage. I just did not know any better.



Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
Amy


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
04/04/2008 5:12 PM  

I'm speechless.......


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Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
04/05/2008 10:41 AM  

Check out www.dogfoodproject.com and go to Ingredients to Avoid.  Check Animal Digest, Animal Fat and Meat and Bone Meal.  Learn what ingredients to avoid.....these are in the cheap, nasty foods.  The key here is to educate ourselves on the ingredients in the food we feed.

Meat & Bone Meal

AAFCO: The rendered product from mammal tissues, with or without bone, exclusive of any added blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices.

The animal parts used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters and so on. It can also include pus, cancerous tissue, and decomposed (spoiled) tissue.


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org
Teddy's Mom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/05/2008 12:17 PM  
EEEWWWWW Maybe me want to start making my own food for them.

Tabitha
Katie'sMom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/05/2008 12:30 PM  

That is disguisting.  But, it is also disguisting that in some countries they eat dogs.  They sell them at the marketplace. 


Check out Katie Scarlett and Company, KS's new site (includes magazine):
Katie Scarlett and Company

And email her at:
katiescarlettorattie@gmail.com


yogis mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
04/05/2008 1:09 PM  
The worst part of the euthanized (other than the thought) is the drugs in the bodies that then get introduced into the kibble. The very drug used to put the animal down.!!! (Of course, it's said , our drinking water is just as bad ...!!)

I'm even suspicious of the "Mom & Pop All Natural" foods that are out there...even though they claim no weird animal by products, that they are "organic", or whatever, there are NO REGULATIONS or INSPECTIONS to confirm any of their claims.
Just have to hope they are being honest....or, like a few on here, cook your own.


I NEVER bought baby food for my kids...made my own. Seems dogs would be easier...
No reason why I couldn't give Yogi what I eat...as long as I threw in a little more meat and bones/marrow?
I think you can buy ground bone supplement also....
After having 2 sickly Labs, and now mom to a great little dog, it seems like a good idea to just cook extra for him.
He's not that crazy about ANY of the kibble I have been buying for him...Taste of the Wild, NB Duck/Salmon, Canadai,etc...turns up his nose.
There are lots of books on cooking for your pets and web sites... Google Dog Food cooking...mucho ideas! Pretty interesting stuff.

dog food cooking Amazon Books:
Bone Appetit: Gourmet Cooking for Your Dog - by Suzan Anson - 220 pages

Home Prepared Dog and Cat Diets: The Healthful ... - by Donald R Strombeck - 378 pages

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9307862
tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
04/05/2008 1:16 PM  
well i know for a fact the meat that the guys dont use when they cut off the fat and what ever from steaks and hamb and such that it is used in dog food. cause i work in seafood and market is back there with us!!!!
SuzieRedhead


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
04/05/2008 1:54 PM  

Not only do they used euthanized pets to add to dog food, they use sick and diseased dead animals.  It's disgusting.  I did a lot of research on this subject about 6 years ago when my first Rattie, Bandit, died from cancer.  It's why I am VERY particular about what I feed my babies now...


Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone

Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues!
dogparkdawn


Ratastic
Ratastic
04/05/2008 2:47 PM  
THAT is what we have in common Suz. I lost Jimmy to cancer. We started taking him to a holistic vet but we still lost him.

We cooked him chicken and rice for the last two years of his life.

No more kibbles and bits, cesar or pupperoni. Gee that stuff is so bad. No wonder Jimmy was a poor eater. His food was crap.

Build a little Bird House in Your Soul.

Dawn Muscarella
SuzieRedhead


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
04/05/2008 2:54 PM  

I know Dawnie, I was so ignorant back then. One of the treats I gave my Bandit was from Hills Science Diet, and it had that ethoxyquin in it, a known carcinogen used as a preservative. Here I thougth cuz the vet I used at the time sold it, it was good. So much for that! I was appalled by what I found during my research.

I still feed kibble, but it's on the advise of my holistic vet and what she perceives as good kibble. It's more expensive but so totally worth it. With 6 dogs, it'd be even more expensive to try to home cook for all - but I did for my old girl, Sasha, and I will for ANY of my babies should they ever have health issues that they would benefit from home cooking.

I miss my little Frito Bandito, but it was his death that led me to Ratbone. I got him from a local rescue here near Albany, NY and he's the reason why I foster - so that I could help save dogs like him, who suffered horrible abuse and neglect. I didn't want his death to be in vain.


Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, etc...
www.ratbonerescues.com
Fostermom to Oh Mickey and Prince Ratbone

Who do YOU GoodSearch/GoodShop for? Go to www.goodsearch.com and type in Ratbone Rescues!
Amy


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
04/05/2008 6:39 PM  

I would like to thank EMG for starting this thread. I had read the other threads about dog foods but still never did any research other than reading the ingredieants list on the bag of Hills Science Diet that we feed Yaz. Seemed okay to me and she wasn't having any issues so we kept feeding it to her. After I read this last night I did extensive online research. Today we bought a bag of Solid Gold for small breeds and started mixing a little in with the Hills to transition her off of it. The difference in ingtredients was amazing. So EMG Yaz and I thank you.


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braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/07/2008 8:45 AM  
wow.. thats nasty. i just compared that listing (thank you for that) and canidea ingreds... other than "chicken fat" all seems that canidae is a really good food!
that puts me at ease alil.... now i have to go home and check the "treats" we have!!!

"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
04/07/2008 9:22 PM  
One of the many reasons I went to feeding human-grade (all except the green tripe) meat to my girls.
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