well I don't seem to see ANY difference yet on the duck /potatoe...they are eating it ...not crazy about it really they are still ashey looking but not as ichy I guess...I haven't started back with oil on it yet till I see if it works by it self...Shamus is STILL VERY FAT!,baths didn't help much either...so i guess its still a wait and see...I'll keep all posted!

oh they are outside ALL day! running and play'n Shamus is just a LUMP he has been since 7 weeks when I got him! He DOESNT LIKE to play or run or ANYTHING! I have never seen a pup that DIDNT like to play and run! He is like the classic big lumppy kid from school that never play'd or was pick'd for teams but he is so loveable all he want s to to be held and cuddled,And he is fat for it...has been since birth his mom only had 2 pups so she SMOTHERED HIM! with LOTS OF LOVE and MILK! I think he just got some extra fat cellsHe is so fat he can't even jump its funny I know its not good for him but he really doesn't eat much at all! that is why we switched to this food really for him, Cash and Caeser are looseing weight!