kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 11:11 AM |
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I don't know what to do with my little man He is so sick.... Here's the icky breakdown of what I've been dealing with:
Monday - brought Mic home from the pet sitter and he pukes all over the place. We figured it was nerves. Then he slept all night like a log.
Tuesday - acts like he's starving! He did loose weight, but he was actually begging for food which he never did before. Had the runs all day. We were thinking it might be because he didn't eat much while he was at the sitter's and he was re-adjusting to his food. That night he got really sick and made a disaster area of our bedroom at about 3 am.
Wednesday - Got a little food around noon, but still had the runs, only now they are really bad. It's like he had water coming out (I warned you... gross!) So we got him canned pumpkin and chicken. He had a little pumpkin, but now refuses to eat any more. It's like every hour we have to rush him outside. Last night I couldn't even sleep because I had to keep getting up to let him out. I don't know how he has that much in him!
This morning - still the same... And he still won't eat the pumpkin, just chicken.
So what the heck! It can't be he's still adjusting to his food can it? It's never been this bad... But he is hungry, and is drinking a lot of water. Not dehydrated either... Any thoughts of what it could be? Or what I can do besides pumpkin to settle his belly? He just looks so sad  |
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DaisysMom

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| 01/03/2008 11:14 AM |
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| My first instinct would be an immediate vet's appointment to rule out his having caught something at the sitter's --- what, I don't know, but the vet would likely have some ideas. At least call them. That's a long time to have that significant of diarrhea. |
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BonitaKaz

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| 01/03/2008 11:14 AM |
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| Maybe a stomach virus? or maybe he ate something bad at the pet sitters (mushrooms outside, spoiled food, a cockroach that was poisoned by the exterminator?). Maybe you should give your vet a call. |
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BonitaKaz

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| 01/03/2008 11:15 AM |
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| Actually, I just realized that this has been since Monday. You should take him to the vet. |
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ladyfern

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| 01/03/2008 11:16 AM |
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| Poor baby, I agree, at least call the vet. Let us know Kim, okay? |
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jingebri

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| 01/03/2008 11:19 AM |
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Oh poor baby : ( I would take him to the vet as well, just to make sure. It could be from stress but I would think he would be ok by now. Let us know how he is doing ok! |
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PamWh

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| 01/03/2008 11:19 AM |
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| I agree about taking him to the vet. If it is a virus, they can give him some medicine to settle his stomach. Have you talked to the sitter to see if he started this while at their home? Are any of their pets sick? |
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swatson6

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| 01/03/2008 11:21 AM |
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| I agree call the vet. Also maybe call the sitter and see if any other dogs there re not feeling well. Poor Mic!! My mothers dog had the same thing last week for about 4 days, some sort of virus I think. |
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alice4512

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| 01/03/2008 11:26 AM |
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Hey Kim,
Sorry about your little man , The canned pumpkin may have given him some of the runs too. Mine get it when they eat that. Put some plain white rice in with his chicken to help bind him up, give the amount you would normally feed him of his dog food but with the plain chicken and white rice mix. You can also give him pepto bismol for his belly. If you do the caplets I would give him half or ask your vet the amount. This should definately help.
I would make a vet appt just to make sure he didnt' catch something at the sitters too. |
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PamWh

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| 01/03/2008 11:28 AM |
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| The sitters had cats too, right? Maybe he indulged in a few kitty almond rochas. Or he might have picked up worms from the cats or other dogs. |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 12:09 PM |
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I emailed the sitter yesterday to let her know what was going on but haven't heard back yet. I keep refreshing my email to see if she wrote back yet! My sister actually stayed home with him today, she actually took off work to keep an eye on him! I thought that was sweet And Kevin is getting home in a couple hours and going to call the vet. The reason we just thought it was food or nerves is because he has a bad tummy and gets stressed easy. And will usually be pukey and stuff for a day or two... but he really freaked me out yesterday when he got the water runs... Actually he freaked us all out which is why my sis stayed home and Kev is getting off work early... Me of course has to sit here and worry. yeah Pam, they had 10 cats... Is that a symptom of worms?? |
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Russ' Pal

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| 01/03/2008 12:12 PM |
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| Poor Mic, and Poor, Poor Kim!!! I agree with taking him to the vet- something about him being hungry doesn't sit right. When you make the appointment, ask if you can give Pepto until you can take him in. The chewable tablets work well. I'd also give him some yogurt. I hope whatever it is clears up quick! |
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PamWh

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| 01/03/2008 12:18 PM |
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I don't know if his problems are a symptom of worms or not. Bob has had the opposite problem for a couple of days. He humps around the backyard trying to go, but nothing happens. He has been very gassy! I'm surprised hubby and I haven't died in our sleep. |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 12:41 PM |
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I'm definitely talking to the vet when I get home... it could be stress, or the food... but it could also be worms (the cats...) or salmonella (sp?) or something else!! She said the day before he left she gave him some cooked hamburger for dinner. It is just odd though because I can't find all of his symptoms together on the internet. He's drinking a ton of water, acts like he's starving, is sleeping a lot, has only wanted to play like 2-3 times but gave up quickly... plus the water runs about once an hour... no puking though (after that first day). |
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alice4512

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| 01/03/2008 1:00 PM |
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Hey Kim,
Can you call the vet and see if they can give you any idea what it may be and then you can look it up from there?
You may also want to ask if your friend or hubby can give him somethign before you get home to help him out like Pepto or Rice.
I hope the little guy gets to feeling better  |
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wmars1776

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| 01/03/2008 1:03 PM |
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Dog fine...goes to sitters...comes home sick.....sitter doesn't answer emails......something surely happened there.
We can speculate all we want and all are being sincere but, the vet is the only one who can see the dog, test the dog and treat the dog. I am not being judgemental but after 2 days of illness you should have sought veterinary attention. |
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Katie'sMom

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| 01/03/2008 1:14 PM |
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Kim, I think after this many days Mic needs to see a vet. If for nothing else, they can give him something to stop the diarrhea (like diarsanyl). I would do this over home remedies, since it has gone on so long. He could have picked something up -- even a little stomach bug. I doubt worms would act this quickly. But, he needs to get some veterinary care. Let us know what you find out. P.S. Glad you are home |
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Russ' Pal

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| 01/03/2008 1:15 PM |
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| A dog with a history of stomach upsets when changing food/ under stress, I can understand waiting an extra day or so. |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 1:20 PM |
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| Well, I just spoke with Kevin and he is picking up some yogurt on the way home to see if that will help any. But he is calling the vet when he gets home and make an apt. They are usually good about apts, so we will probably get him in after I get out of work today. I just feel awful about waiting so long, but honestly we just figured it was his nerves from the stress of being at the pet sitters then back home. He's done it before more than a few times and it was always the same symptoms that he showed the first few days this week, which is why we thought nothing more than give him a bland diet for a couple days. Then yesterday is when his symptoms changed. |
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alice4512

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| 01/03/2008 1:28 PM |
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Kim, JMO, rice will bind him better than yogurt, it will stop the runs I believe |
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The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too
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elfmom

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| 01/03/2008 1:31 PM |
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Hi Kim- Does sound like worms to me. Have you wormed recently? Especially if your dog has been exposed to cat boxes? If not, it's a quick way to check a solution. If your dog does have worms, you should be able to see them (Yuk) in the next few poops after worming if they are tapeworm or roundworm. Good luck to you and your baby. Dee |
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rattytatty

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| 01/03/2008 1:35 PM |
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| I agree with the others.... I would take him to the vet. I have had to take Lil'Bit (dachshund) to the vet on occasion to get the diarhhea stopped. What triggers it with her is if she gets stressed. Now I have the itsy bitsy pills on hand just in case it happens. I'm sorry he's sick, Kim... |
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BonitaKaz

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| 01/03/2008 1:38 PM |
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Kim, you know your dog, and you know that he has the habit of carrying this on for a couple of days, if you had taken him in every single time so the vet could say he was stressed, you'd have a huge vet expense every month. Don't feel bad for not being very alarmed right away, you know his habits much better than anyone on here does! The most important thing is just to make sure he's not getting dehydrated, and get him to the vet asap now! |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 1:43 PM |
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Kevin confirmed, yogurt and rice are on the menu for lunch today My sister said he's been acting ok all morning... So that's a positive. He does have a bad history of tummy issues, so I'm hoping it is just the stress and/or food. But I've never had cats and Mic's never really been around them either so I have no idea what to look for symptom wise. And I've never had a pet with worms before. Well, now I guess its just a waiting game until his vet apt! Poor guy is going to think we're driving him to the sitter's again I bet... |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 1:48 PM |
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Posted By BonitaKaz on 01/03/2008 1:38 PM
Kim, you know your dog, and you know that he has the habit of carrying this on for a couple of days, if you had taken him in every single time so the vet could say he was stressed, you'd have a huge vet expense every month. Don't feel bad for not being very alarmed right away, you know his habits much better than anyone on here does!
The most important thing is just to make sure he's not getting dehydrated, and get him to the vet asap now!
I'm on top of that one! I actually had the vet teach me a trick to tell if he's getting dehydrated or not, since he does have issues quite often. You just pull a little pinch of skin by their neck and if it pops back right away, he is ok, if it goes back slowly, then that is a sign of dehydration.
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Morgan

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| 01/03/2008 1:49 PM |
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Poor Mic. I'm beginning to wonder about the sitter as well....
What was she feeding him? Did you guys discuss that before you left him? Do you normally feed Mic people food like hamburger? If Bella had nothing but hamburger for dinner, she would probably be sick too because she is not used to eating foods like that. Cooked hamburger can be pretty greasy. Also, were you wanting him to lose weight while with her? Was she withholding food or something? If he is acting like he is starving that's not a very good sign...or at least I don't think so.
I would take him to the vet if it's been 2 days and he still hasn't improved. Let us know what happens. I feel so bad for him. |
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alice4512

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| 01/03/2008 1:51 PM |
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The good thing is dogs are pretty resiliant. I hope your vet can get you in quick and get Micker Man back on track!! |
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Jules

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| 01/03/2008 1:54 PM |
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| Yeah sounds like seeing the vet is the best idea. |
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kimrose

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| 01/03/2008 2:02 PM |
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Posted By Morgan on 01/03/2008 1:49 PM
Poor Mic. I'm beginning to wonder about the sitter as well....
What was she feeding him? Did you guys discuss that before you left him? Do you normally feed Mic people food like hamburger? If Bella had nothing but hamburger for dinner, she would probably be sick too because she is not used to eating foods like that. Cooked hamburger can be pretty greasy. Also, were you wanting him to lose weight while with her? Was she withholding food or something? If he is acting like he is starving that's not a very good sign...or at least I don't think so.
I would take him to the vet if it's been 2 days and he still hasn't improved. Let us know what happens. I feel so bad for him.
I brought his EVO for him to eat while there, but she said he would nibble at it and never ate a full bowl at one sitting, which is common for him when he's stressed... which is most likely why he lost the weight so quickly. She also does not feed treats/food with wheat or corn, and feeds all of her dogs a raw... So I figured she knew what she was doing. We originally thought it could be the burger. But who knows, for all I know right now it could be anything...
I'm just going to try and pass the time until his apt. and not think of the worst cases....
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Morgan

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| 01/03/2008 2:05 PM |
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I'm sure he will be fine. We all know that Mic gets upset tummy's sometimes. Some dogs just have more sensitive tummy's. He probably found something and ate it or it could have been the hamburger. I hope he feels better soon though.  |
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