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cajunbaby
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| 09/27/2008 8:30 AM |
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I adopted a one year old rattie yesterday.he is a chocolate,he is registerd with an impressive pedigree.he does however have a slightly crooked canine tooth.is this going to a trait that will be passed to any puppies if i choose to stud him out?he is a wonderful dog,and i am so pleased with the breed.my son owns a small rattie,but my rattie is larger,does the female have to be smaller than the male to breed?i would think that the larger puppies would hurt the dam but do not know.i am a newbie at this breed.but so far he is a wonderful little dog.any help would be appreciated.i did not purchase this dog from a breeder but from someone who recuses dogs. |
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rattagan's mom
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| 09/27/2008 8:40 AM |
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First off I want to welcome you to RattieLand. I would advise against breeding and suggest that you neuter your pup ASAP. This prevents many things including prostate cancer that these little guys can lots of problems with. Breeding requires LOTS of money for testing the parent dogs, not to mention the large expense of raising pups and getting tails and dew claws done, shots, worming, etc.
You have just rescued a dog, may I ask why you would want to breed and add to the population when it is so easy to get a rescued dog that really needs you? Instead of breeding, if you want more dogs why not just help out rescues by adopting more? These are just honest, straight forward questions, please don't think I am trying to be mean, I'm not, I'm just wondering WHY you would want to breed. |
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Janie,
Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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Mitzy's Mom
PAWesome
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| 09/27/2008 9:35 AM |
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What rescue organization adopted out an intact male?? Or was he from a local animal control?
And yes, his bite is an inherited trait that makes not qualified for breeding.....do you realize that you will need to get all genetic testing done if you want to breed him? All dogs, male and female, who might be bred need to go have testing to see if they are clear of any medical problems that they may pass along. I'm sure if you do a search in the Breeding forum you'll find where qualified breeders have posted about these tests.
As Janie says though....why is this world would you want to breed him when you just adopted him? If you are truly interested in breeding for the love of the breed then please post in the Breeders forum and ask them for advice. JMO |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
at www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow
http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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bratt
Firehouse Big Dog
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| 09/27/2008 10:41 AM |
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Geez! Another one! God Save Us Everyone! |
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Debra~KSSM Queen II
Savanna~Princess Easy Street
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rattytatty
Training Moderator
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| 09/27/2008 11:01 AM |
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No shelters in this area adopt out a dog that is intact.
No rescue organizations I know of would adopt out a dog that is intact. |
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~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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swatson6
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| 09/27/2008 11:01 AM |
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| Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan
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tiggarat
Bratty Ratty
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| 09/27/2008 11:15 AM |
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what's with everyone lately?! just because you have an intact dog does NOT mean you should breed them!
no....a female should be bigger than the male she's bred to...otherwise there can be some very serious complications. educate yourself before even considering breeding, please, for the sake of your dogs. |
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Lisabeth
furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.
"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith |
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MurphyDog
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| 09/27/2008 12:17 PM |
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Welcome, and bless you for taking in this RT boy! They are indeed a great breed!
Pictures would be great!
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Mitch and Murphy Hancock (the dog)
"I've seen a look in dogs' eyes, a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts." - John Steinbeck |
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bratt
Firehouse Big Dog
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| 09/27/2008 12:19 PM |
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Posted By cajunbaby on 09/27/2008 8:30 AM
I adopted a one year old rattie yesterday.he is a chocolate,he is registerd with an impressive pedigree.he does however have a slightly crooked canine tooth.is this going to a trait that will be passed to any puppies if i choose to stud him out?he is a wonderful dog,and i am so pleased with the breed.my son owns a small rattie,but my rattie is larger,does the female have to be smaller than the male to breed?i would think that the larger puppies would hurt the dam but do not know.i am a newbie at this breed.but so far he is a wonderful little dog.any help would be appreciated.i did not purchase this dog from a breeder but from someone who recuses dogs.
First off! Thank you for resucing a pup!!!! Welcome to the site! I should have said that before I went on a rant.
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Debra~KSSM Queen II
Savanna~Princess Easy Street
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bratt
Firehouse Big Dog
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| 09/27/2008 12:21 PM |
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Posted By bratt on 09/27/2008 12:19 PM
Posted By cajunbaby on 09/27/2008 8:30 AM
I adopted a one year old rattie yesterday.he is a chocolate,he is registerd with an impressive pedigree.he does however have a slightly crooked canine tooth.is this going to a trait that will be passed to any puppies if i choose to stud him out?he is a wonderful dog,and i am so pleased with the breed.my son owns a small rattie,but my rattie is larger,does the female have to be smaller than the male to breed?i would think that the larger puppies would hurt the dam but do not know.i am a newbie at this breed.but so far he is a wonderful little dog.any help would be appreciated.i did not purchase this dog from a breeder but from someone who recuses dogs.
First off! Thank you for rescuing a pup!!!! Welcome to the site! I should have said that before I went on a rant.
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Debra~KSSM Queen II
Savanna~Princess Easy Street
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HomersMom
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| 10/26/2008 1:31 AM |
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Cajun,
Sorry as a newbie you encountered such negativity. Though I agree for the most part with the posters about breeding (yes, all of us with great dogs think about it, but you must be educated, aware of the pitfalls (there are an awful lot of RTs that end up homeless--they are cute, stubborn, smart, sweet, stubborn, wonderful, stubborn), you didn't in my opinion deserve such bombastic comments.
I had a wonderful RT named Homer. I never had him neutered. He was a beautiful small RT with an incredible disposition, and I diidn't neuter him because I thought about breeding him--even his vet said he was exceptionally cute and sweet and asked if I was going to put him to stud. Several people wanted to use him as a stud--but every time I looked at the situation, I realized it was just wrong. None of them were responsible breeders, several wanted to make a big profit (RTs at that time were pretty rare here), a couple had dogs with bad dispositions and hoped his sweetness would be passed on, others wanted to microsize their dog's offspring. To make a long story short, Homer was only a frustrated stud-in-waiting as I never found a female whose owners I thought were responsible enough to breed him to.
You will not get rich or even make much money breeding your dog, and you must think about the fate of his puppies. Once you breed him, it is all out of your hands. If you do decide to go through with breeding him, get some expert advice on screening the owners of the females. Remember too, that even a great pedigree won't ensure health and outcome of a mating, or, more importantly, what will become of his the puppies he sires. He was lucky he found you through a rescue, or however you got him, but his offspring might not be so lucky.
Kate |
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ivy
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| 10/26/2008 11:39 AM |
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| Welcome to the site. Do you have pictures you can share with us? We love pictures. Everyone else has told you the bite of the dog (teeth) get past on to the pups that is why in the shows the judges look in the mouth. If a smaller female is bred to a larger male the females life could be in danger. Would you have responsible people lined up for the pups? Sometimes litters can be small but sometimes they can have quite a few pups. Breeding is an expensive hobby and I am going to leave it to the people who know what they are doing and have the resources to do the testing and vetting. Again welcome to the site, |
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Harleylady1339
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| 10/26/2008 12:10 PM |
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Just be sure you are up to breeding and all it entails...the people we got Harley from couldn't afford it' and, as the male was bigger than mama she delivered one pup naturaly and then Harley got stuck and they had to do an emergency c-section to deliver him and the next two..he was the biggest of the litter.....they couldn't afford the surgery and tried to get as much money as they could and ended up selling the pups for a lot less.still owe the vet I guess..no papers and they were trying to get as much or more than you would for a registered dog, and to top it off they couldn't afford to get the babies their puppy shots before selling them, so Harley came to us with NO shots at all, and no docked tail, at least they did the dew claws and last I knew they were saying they gotta get the mamma spayed so there would be no more puppies and that they couldn't afford to have it done...we had other trouble with these people and so we left on bad terms with them.. they were greedy..yes we have a great dog but the way we got him could have been better..he is the greatest...anyways just be really sure...Harley is a beautiful dog but I am getting him neutered..it is so much better for him in the long run....Rat-Dog is already spayed.....so no puppies for us...tho they would probably have been cute...but nope none for us!! |
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Mommy to Harley( Rat Terrier Male) and Rat-Dog( Jack-Russell/ ??? mix female) and grandma to Rocky ( Boxer male)
Rest in peace...Mitzi, my first Rat Terrier...long gone but not forgotten...(wish I still had a picture of her...only in my mind now!) |
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singingpilgrim
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| 10/26/2008 11:46 PM |
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Welcome to the site!
As you can see the nuetering v. breeding issue is explosive on here. But I am sorry you were bombarded with it.
If you don't choose to nueter your dog I'd suggest you take some time to bond with him and all before you even think about this stuff. I see the appeal of breeding, but they're right: you need to do genetic testing to be a responsible breeder and most likely his crooked tooth would be a bad trait to pass on to offspring.
I'm glad you're here, and hope we didn't scare you away. I only got my Sophie at the beginning of July, so I'm a new rattie owner too. They're awesome. |
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Pamela
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