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| 07/07/2008 10:55 AM |
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I am a mac user (and tech). I prefer to use Safari for my browser. I can read but not reply to posts in Safari. I have to have a seperate browser (firefox) just to be able to do this. Is there anyway that the forum software can be updated to a version that works with the current version of Safari? Im running 10.5.3 of the OS. |
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MurphyDog

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| 07/07/2008 5:05 PM |
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Posted By theniffs on 07/07/2008 10:55 AM
I am a mac user (and tech). I prefer to use Safari for my browser. I can read but not reply to posts in Safari. I have to have a seperate browser (firefox) just to be able to do this. Is there anyway that the forum software can be updated to a version that works with the current version of Safari? Im running 10.5.3 of the OS.
Hello. First, let me state that I am not an admin of this site and am not speaking for them in any way, but I do know that this web site is run on IIS 6.0 (Microsoft Windows Server 2003) because I saw it in a network trace I took for other reasons, and the problem may be related to some proprietary APIs or just some special Mac-thing that Safari uses, which may not be fully compatible with other servers. While the latest version on IIS in 7.0 (In Windows Server 2008), I don't know if that resolves any compatibility issues with Safari.
Since IIS 6.0 is well established (read: heavily used on teh Intrenets) and is RFC compliant, I'd venture a +GUESS+ that Safari tries to do something unique and proprietary which results in the failure.
Can you go into the options of the browser and tweak the settings - particularly regarding HTTP and POST, and see if that improves the compatibility? If nothing helps, let me know by PM and give me some specifics to work with - like and error message, and I'll do some digging and see what I can find.
The admins may be able to shed some more light on this as well.
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Mitch and Murphy Hancock (the dog)
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theniffs

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| 07/07/2008 5:13 PM |
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I dont get error messages actually I just click submit and it reloads the page and my response is gone and not posted. This honestly is extremely suprising to me because I have been and continue to be on a large number of message boards and forums and never have issues. They use IIS here on campus and it seems to be frequently broken or have security issues lol. Im willing to bet most of the internets is run on linux/unix/bsd etc not on windows because it would be down a lot Ok im sorry I couldnt hold it back. My job is very boring at times thus I have a large amount of time for forums (macs dont break often, eheh). Actually I support Windows too although I dont enjoy it. I am imaging dual boot Macs as I type  |
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MurphyDog

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| 07/07/2008 5:15 PM |
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Alright. I was nice. Now I'm done with you.
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Mitch and Murphy Hancock (the dog)
"I've seen a look in dogs' eyes, a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts." - John Steinbeck |
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theniffs

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| 07/07/2008 5:23 PM |
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awww im sorry. I was just kiddin around. |
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zazyl

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| 07/07/2008 5:29 PM |
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I'm using Safari... I'm surprised at the comment of proprietary use targeted at something other than microsoft hehe. It's usually due to active x and IE proprietary crap that sites break on browsers like safari, not the other way around. Apple actually prided themselves on making safari as web/rfc compliant as possible. |
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theniffs

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| 07/07/2008 5:35 PM |
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| So quick reply works from safari but not "add reply". I usually use add reply because I got used to adding pics or links. |
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zazyl

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| 07/07/2008 5:37 PM |
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| Can't edit my post, wanted to add that I also did my reply w/ quick reply. Using The normal reply gives me the same problem of wiping out my reply and giving me a blank reply page. |
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zazyl

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| 07/07/2008 5:42 PM |
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| It doesn't work in safari for windows either. Just tried and only quick reply works. |
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Noodles n Me

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tiggarat

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Bailey's mom

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| 07/07/2008 6:06 PM |
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Posted By Noodles n Me on 07/07/2008 5:52 PM
Are ya'll kidding me?? Is this English? I like understood "I am not admin, kidding, apple crap!"
But then again I thought Windows 2000 and Windows Millieum were the same!
So carry on!!!!   
That's what I was thinking too!!!lol
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Nat

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| 07/07/2008 6:26 PM |
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xoxo, -Nat
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pepper

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| 07/07/2008 7:45 PM |
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oh, wait, was I not supposed to understand this? It made sense to me. There may be something with the timeouts or how the traffic is handled on the site. I know sometimes after I hit submit, I have to open another tab to a different site and work there for a bit, then come back to the site and it will have gone through. So if your browser is timing out before the site responds, that could have something to do with it. I am using firefox on XP, and this site is the only one I have problems with. It IS on windows, maybe it needs to be rebooted! haha, I just had to get my jab in. |
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Lance

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| 07/07/2008 8:12 PM |
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This has nothing to do with IIS6 (Mitch, this wouldn't be an http issue but a javascript one), and it has nothing to do with ActiveX (we don't use ActiveX here). My guess is that Safari doesn't like something about the javascript that is used in the forums (ie, the javascript that executes when the Submit button is clicked). Questions for you: 1. Do you get the problem if you use the Quick Reply box *AND* if you use the full "Add Reply" editor? 2. I just made a (temporary?) change to the off-topic forums, can you see if the same problem happens in the cooking forum, for example? Just do a test reply there and let me know. L |
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MurphyDog

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| 07/07/2008 8:48 PM |
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Oh. That makes sense, since Java is a commonly use language and is sometimes misinterpreted by lesser browsers, or simply... browsers that must interpret the results of others as wrong and complain about it.
If I can help in any way in figuring out what IS WRONG WITH the Apple Saforariie in understanding Sun's Java, please let me know.
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Mitch and Murphy Hancock (the dog)
"I've seen a look in dogs' eyes, a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts." - John Steinbeck |
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| 07/07/2008 9:49 PM |
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| Here is me.......Looking around for the interpreter or subtitles........As long as ya'll know whats going on.............. |
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tina224...live...laugh...love...and bark at the moon
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." ~Unknown |
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| 07/07/2008 10:01 PM |
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| When I use the quick reply and I hit Submit, sometimes it doesn't post. Then when I look, someone else posted at the same time, so maybe theirs got there first and dumped my reply or something.... |
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braeli_bryson

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| 07/08/2008 9:23 AM |
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i am a designer and MAC user 30% of the time i am on this site (PC at work where i spend most of my time here)... I have NO issues what so ever reading, replying and creating posts/threads... how mew is your mac? i forget what i am running... i think it was panther upgraded to tiger 10.2... but i do forget which came first. |
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gianni_mahopac, ny bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
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theniffs

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| 07/08/2008 9:47 AM |
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Its new. I am running 10.5.3 (10.5.4 is out but not willing to upgrade yet need to test on non production machine). It doesnt matter what category it is, quick reply works, regular add reply does not. Also I can not add a new topic. Ive also tried on 3 computers (macbook pro, imac (intel) and a g5 tower) all have the same OS version and all have the same issue. Like I said I use tons of different forums and dont have problems but I guess they generally run more standardized forum software such as phpbb. |
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theniffs

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| 07/08/2008 9:55 AM |
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| BTW lesser browsers. Sorry I only use IE if absolutely necessary since it is the most unsecure browser available. |
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theniffs

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| 07/08/2008 10:10 AM |
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| ok, it is working in the just chat area to add reply so it does have to do with all the functions available when using the full reply (or i assume the new topic). I might be able to get to a machine this afternoon where i can try 10.5.4 on and Ill let you know about the other forums on that machine |
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NIckle's Mom

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| 07/08/2008 10:28 AM |
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| so there is really a lot more to the submit button than what we all thought? |
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Patricia---Nickle and Dime's Mommy

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theniffs

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| 07/08/2008 12:24 PM |
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| update, new posts are not working in safari with the cut down options at least in training forum. |
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kristen

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| 07/08/2008 12:46 PM |
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| i have safari too, and same thing happens to me. I have to use firefox while on rt.com, and I hate it! haha |
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theniffs

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| 07/08/2008 12:51 PM |
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Its good to know im not the only one! thanks for posting the backup haha  |
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PamWh

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| 07/08/2008 1:00 PM |
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| So the Internet isn't run on magic spells and good luck charms? |
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PamWh aka Bob's Mom
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braeli_bryson

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| 07/08/2008 1:20 PM |
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| maybe its a compatibility with newer versions of OSX... i have a 3 yr old G5 with an updated OS... but i am behind i think 2 or 3 since... |
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"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"
gianni_mahopac, ny bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
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kristen

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| 07/08/2008 2:46 PM |
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| haha yeah I thought I was the only one! Firefox is just soo slow and freezes, which is why I don't use it as my default browser! |
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