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jojo4383


Rattie
Rattie
03/23/2008 7:49 PM  

Please help! We just brought our 9 week old rattie pup home four days ago. We are having some serious problems with the potty training. I've read all the books and went into this prepared, but reading it and doing it are two completely different things. We are training her to go on newspapers in the kitchen, and she sometimes does great with it. The issue is when she has to go poop. She whines and cries like crazy, and it's like she's terrified of going poop. She runs around the kitchen yelping and crying and it's just pathetic. Eventually when she can't hold it anymore, she'll finally go-- sometimes on the paper, sometimes not. I just don't know what to do. I praise her as lavishly as possible when she goes on the papers, and I try not to get frustrated when she goes somewhere else. She's been in the kitchen crying now for half an hour, and I KNOW that she has to poop because she squatted down and almost did it on the carpet, and it's hanging out of her butt. Am I doing something wrong??? Is she never going to get this? Help! I love her so much and I never imagined how happy she could make me, which is why it destroys me to sit here listening to her cry. I'll post pictures of her as soon as I figure out how to, but I need help with this issue ASAP! Please!


Joanna - Lucie's Mom
tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/23/2008 7:55 PM  
Welcome! Maybe she already knows that she's not supposed to poo inside and wants to go out to poo? These guys are smart, and mine picked up the potty training pretty quick.

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
jojo4383


Rattie
Rattie
03/23/2008 8:01 PM  
Well, my fear with letting her go outside to potty is that we live in an apartment complex with lots of other dogs, so until she has finished getting all of her shots I'm afraid of her catching something.

Joanna - Lucie's Mom
tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/23/2008 8:09 PM  
that makes it hard...I understand you not wanting her to be exposed to anything...there are some nasty things out there for pups to get. I live in the country, and my dogs have 5 acres to themselves, without other dogs that they can catch something from.
maybe confine her to a certain room/area (bathroom) when she needs to poo? cover the floor in that area with newspaper, like you've been doing. she'll catch on eventually, I'm sure.

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
winnihoohoo


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/23/2008 8:49 PM  
maybe it is hanging out on a piece of hair she swallowed. help her, get it out.
jojo4383


Rattie
Rattie
03/23/2008 10:58 PM  
Update: Lucie has now pooped and peed and is asleep for the night. She peed on the carpet, so when she went to squat to poop I took her to the papers in the bathroom instead of the kitchen. She cried a little but then did her business right on the paper. I think she has developed a bad taste for going potty in the kitchen. I believe that the problem is that I force her to stay in there too long waiting for her to potty. Although I'm trying to keep to a good schedule, she is very unpredictable with when she has to go, and she doesn't do very much sniffing around to let me know she's about to go. She just squats and does her thing (especially with pee). That's why I have to take her to the papers a lot... because I'm just not sure when it's going to happen. I'll go back to work on Tuesday and she's going to have to get used to a potty schedule sooner or later. I just hope it's sooner. From everything I've read about ratties, they're supposed to pick it up faster than this! She did come from a breeder where she was in an open-top wire cage all the time where she just pottied anytime. I think she's having a hard time adjusting. I do appreciate the words of encouragement! Hopefully my baby's not the first ratty to take several days to get the hang of this.

Joanna - Lucie's Mom
tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/24/2008 2:24 AM  
maybe you could try piddle pads instead of newspaper...they have "scents" that tell the pups to pee on them. I work from home, so I'm with my dogs all the time and pick up on their ques to go out/potty, but I used the piddle pads when they were tiny (I got them when they were 7 wks old)...I put them by the door for when they couldn't get my attention fast enough. I think part of the difference in how fast the pups pick up on potty training is whether or not they have older dogs in the family to help teach them...I had 2 older dogs when my ratties were pups, and my male pretty much scolded them every time they had an accident in the house. my ratties were pretty much completely potty trained by 4 months old...but some pups can take longer.
as far as schedules go, just remember - every time she eats or drinks, she will have to go potty pretty soon afterward, so if you don't want any unexpected accidents, limit the water and food to when you are around.

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
cherylwordweaver


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/24/2008 10:54 PM  
At 9 weeks, she is still young and learning. It sounds good that you are being positive when she gets it right, and are trying to remain calm when she doesn't. However, these dogs are very sensitive so she may be picking up on your worries. When you catch her going in the wrong place, don't react loud or angry or panicy. Just say a firm strong No and then pick her up and put her where she is to go and then tell her your command for potty. It could something like go potty on the paper.

It will feel like years are going by but you really haven't been at it that long. I would make sure that when she does poop, to check it to see how solid it is and if there is anything in the poop that might be causing pain. (I know sounds gross, just use latex gloves). If she is crying due to pain, then I'd check with my vet. If it is emotional, then work on reacting as calmly as you can and help move her to the correct spot. Don't overdo the sympathy, just be matter of fact and then use a cheerful, happy voice when she hits the mark.

Hang in there. You may want to check out the Training forum. There are several good articles there as well as folks to talk to who are both going through it now like you are and others who have been there and have great advice.

Welcome to rt.com!! We love pictures of new puppies and dogs that come to the site, so feel free to post a bunch!!

“Aloha- - -to learn what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable.” Queen Liliaokalani

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