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Rany

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| 12/20/2007 10:55 AM |
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so back in august my sister had got a rat terrier for my other sister. but my other sister didnt want him because she was just moving out and my sister was going to sell him but i wanted him so i kept him....
i went on a trip back home to europe for 3 weeks and my sister stayed here w/ the dogs.. (we have 4.. 2 miniature schnauzer, 1 boxer, and a rat terrier) our new rat terrier was fine.. a little shy and didnt know what to do but he was fine.. he had new toys.. other dogs to play with...everything.. but we have one problem.. he wont come to my dat at all. well actually is any MALE that tries to pick him up he runs and hides.. i always have to catch him for my dad.. but Benny (thats my dog's name) was kinda abused by the 1st owner. she had him and his brother in a crate their first 3 months of life and they really didnt have human contact.. then another lady who rescues rat terriers i guess got him and she had sold his brother but couldnt sell him to anyone because his markings were backwards or something?? i dont know hes all brown with white markings and the lady said hes suppose to be all white with brown and black markings. i dont care though. he's sooo cute.. but yeah i dont know if the lady tortured him while he was in the crate because he is scared of EVERYTHING... im tryin to teach him to fetch and whenever i throw the ball he just ducks and runs or if he is sitting next to me when i throw it he hides behind me or jumps up on the couch. he is going to training classes and he loves it. when he gets his harness put on he knows that its serious. no playing around unless i say its ok. but my biggest problem is getting him to come to my dad. he just wont go and my dad is really heart broken but he said that if he doesnt learn we may have to get rid of him because he cant stand to see him be so scared and he feels like he is suffering being in this house.. i dont understand what he means by that but my dog loves it here.. hes always playing. has a big backyard to run around. lots of toys to chew on.. but yeah.. anyone here that can help?? maybe know what to do?? |
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BonitaKaz

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| 12/20/2007 11:01 AM |
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Do you live with your dad? If so, then the usual thing that can help dogs who are scared of a certain person is to let that person become the giver of all good things. Let you dad give him his dog food, let him be the one to give him treats and toys and let him walk him. It may take a while, but he will come around. It may or may not be abused. How old is he now? He may have just never been socilized the way he should have been. If you have friends or strangers to him that can come over and let him come to them, it may also help. |
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*Bonita* Mom to Nibbler & Laika! |
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Rany

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| 12/20/2007 11:05 AM |
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Posted By BonitaKaz on 12/20/2007 11:01 AM
Do you live with your dad? If so, then the usual thing that can help dogs who are scared of a certain person is to let that person become the giver of all good things. Let you dad give him his dog food, let him be the one to give him treats and toys and let him walk him. It may take a while, but he will come around.
It may or may not be abused. How old is he now? He may have just never been socilized the way he should have been. If you have friends or strangers to him that can come over and let him come to them, it may also help.
the lady that trains him told us to do the whole giving things to him... and my dad does. he feeds him and i mean when my dad gets ahold of him he sits there in his lap and my dad scratches his head and all that...
and hes almost 8 months old... |
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jingebri

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| 12/20/2007 11:06 AM |
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The only thing that will help is time. I had a dog that was afraid of everyone except me and my mom. It took a good 6 months for her to get used to my dad after moving back in with my parents. Whenever anyone would come over I would give them treats to give to her. A lot of the time she wouldn't even take them from the people until they dropped them. But eventually she turned around. She may or may not have been abused as a puppy, but I just think she wasn't socialized. (we didn't get her until she was about 4-5 months old) Its hard to tell why they are the way they are, but just continue working with him. Try not to give up.. I hope things work out! |
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-Jen- mama to Izzy |
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 12/20/2007 11:08 AM |
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Very true that he may just have not been socialized! My Mayfly is very scared of new people and all sorts of new "things" that are common to other dogs, like baby strollers or someone carrying a broom for example. She has never been abused (we got her at 9 weeks old and she just hadn't been handled much).
This doesn't mean he's not happy in your home. The best thing for him is to work with him and he will come around gradually. If your dad could give him treats, spend lots of time with him, it would help. There are a couple of other ratties on here who were scared of men but have gotten better.
Good luck with the little guy! |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude at www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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Rany

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| 12/20/2007 11:09 AM |
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Posted By jingebri on 12/20/2007 11:06 AM
The only thing that will help is time. I had a dog that was afraid of everyone except me and my mom. It took a good 6 months for her to get used to my dad after moving back in with my parents. Whenever anyone would come over I would give them treats to give to her. A lot of the time she wouldn't even take them from the people until they dropped them. But eventually she turned around. She may or may not have been abused as a puppy, but I just think she wasn't socialized. (we didn't get her until she was about 4-5 months old)
Its hard to tell why they are the way they are, but just continue working with him. Try not to give up.. I hope things work out!
thats the thing wont come up to them at all. no matter what they have in their hand. i just hope it gets better... id hate to have to loose him.
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 12/20/2007 11:13 AM |
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| Hey, I just bumped an old post for you in the Training Forum. It's called "I just want to cry" and a member on here adopted a rattie and had similar problems to yours. Read the whole thread including the advice Nora (training moderator) gave her. It worked and her rattie is much better now! |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude at www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/willow http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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Lovemypup

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| 12/20/2007 11:16 AM |
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| My rattie is scared of men too. Hes OK with my BF and will cuddle with him when Im not home, but other than that, nopers. No-De is scared of men, tries to climb over my shoulder and run away if I hold him for a man to pet him. Hes getting better, but honestly I dont expect him to be perfect. My trainer had said it may not be so much from abuse but that men are naturally bigger and have deeper voices and thats intemidating to the dog |
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jingebri

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| 12/20/2007 11:18 AM |
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I know what you must be feeling. I would have hated to give my dog up because she was scared. She was my 'special' dog.. and I miss her terribly (she had to be put down bc she was sick) I'm sure your dog isnt suffering.. and I hope your dad understands that. To have to rehome your dog again will probley do more damage in the end. |
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-Jen- mama to Izzy |
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LadyLes

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| 12/20/2007 2:23 PM |
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| I am the member who had the dog with a similar situation and temperment with men. She was terrified of my husband. All good things came from him, and I virtually had no interaction with her unless my husband wan't around. He walked her, fed, her, have her treats, playtime, and affection. I think the walk is MOST important...my husband walked Mocha everyday! In the beginning she hated it, sould shake like a leaf and so on...now, when he pulls out the leash, she is raring to go and can hardly contain her excitement. She voluntarily gets in his lap now, which is something she would never do before. She demands that he scratch her often. I think the other thing that really helped is that my husband was very patient about it, he always got down on her level when feeding, giving treats, and playing, he didn't make eye contact with her, and always let her come to him. If she didn't want to be around him, he didn't push it or force her. She came around within weeks. It will work, just be patient and give it time. I am always available if you have questions. Keep your head up! |
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PamWh

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| 12/20/2007 2:28 PM |
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| Is your dad standing when he tries to get Benny to come to him. Have your dad sit on the floor, more at the dog's level and see if that helps. Some dogs are more timid than others. Sometimes the more you try to force a dog to like you, the more he avoids you. Also, I remember my dog at that age not always wanting to obey me and sometimes running away (in the house) as a game, wanting me to chase him. |
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