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Lauren


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04/14/2007 9:15 AM  

Hi, I'm new to the site and I have a question.  I have a rat terrier about five years old and recently my daughter moved into the house with her partial pit bull.  They were reserved around each other but seemed to accept each other, but their behaviour has deteriorated to the point where we have to keep them totally seperated, one in the basement and one in the upstairs of the house.

My question is this...is there any way to get Kyda to calm down and accept the pit bull?  She goes into attack mode as soon as Cara growls, which she always does growl as soon as she hears Kyda coming.  Kyda can't hurt Cara because she is too small, but she has gotten the worst of the few scrapes they have been in and now they seem to hate each other.  The situation is awful, it's like living in an armed camp and I'm sure neither dog is happy. 

I took Kyda out of town over Easter weekend and she was like a different dog.  She didn't whine and bark and act wild while we were gone at all, not even with my sister's dog.  As soon as we set foot in the front door, she was back to spaz city again!

I'm afraid if someone is carelss and no one is home and the dogs get together, Kyda will be dead when we get back!  They go straight for each other given the chance.  Is there any way to reconscile them at this point?  They used to have a least an acceptance of each other at first .

Any advice you all have would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Kyda's Mom
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
04/14/2007 9:24 AM  
I'm afraid you won't like my advice. I would not keep a rattie with a pitbull. Period. We've had several stories just on this board with ratties being attacked by them. Personnally, I think pitbulls are nice dogs for people...but keeping one with a small dog that thinks it is a big dog - is asking for trouble. And you're right, the rattie will be dead because she won't have a chance against the pitbull. Pitbulls were bred to fight other dogs...that's a simple fact.

Sorry if any of this offends you but I don't want to hear another story of a little dog being killed.
Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

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rattytatty


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Newbie
04/14/2007 9:33 AM  
I agree with Mary Beth... especially is the relationship between them is not a good one (and from what you describe... it's not). Please remember that dog behavior is all pack oriented... and it's not always based on size. Many little dogs think they are big... and the bottom line is that Kyla was there first. Your home is HER territory, and the other dog is merely trying to take over that position... Kyla is resisting that, and defending her pack position. Dogs are pack animals, meaning they have an instinct to live among a group. They look at the world differently than humans. To them, there must be an order in their group, a leader, a boss of the household. In their mind, everyone must have a place, from the leader on down to the lowest member of their group.

it is normal for the dogs to constantly compete for the, "who is first in the pack order". This is normal and healthy for a dog, and in most cases, should be left for the dogs to work out on their own. So long as the dogs do not challenge the humans. Humans should be so clearly the leader, the issue of boss among the humans never arises in the dog's mind.

In your case, it sounds like you have two dogs competing for the top pack position. If the dogs were the same size, I'd advise letting them work it out on their own. But Kyla could get seriously hurt or killed. I beg you to keep them separated unless you or someone else is there to constantly supervise and intervene if you need to. Don't risk the life of your little rattie. She was there first, and was well established in her position before the other dog arrived. She is simply defending her position... and to her that's perfectly normal behavior. Please protect her at all costs.
chips mom


Rattie
Rattie
04/15/2007 2:15 AM  
I lived in a very rural area where many people had livestock. One day we heard this horrendous noise and our neighbor came flying out of her house. A neighbor's pitbull was loose and had gotten her sow. the dog had the sow around the neck and wouldn't let go. These dogs actually are used to hunt wild pig down in this area (GA) and once they latch on, they don't let go until the pig is dead. Some say they go into a trance-like state. My husband whacked the dog on the head with a shovel many times to get it to drop off the sow. I don't think you want to risk this happening to your dog.

On the other hand, we had next door neighbors with a pit and our cat would chase her home and she would be yelping the entire way!! Ha Ha.
Judy Mom to Mr. Chips and Annie
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The greatness of a nation and its progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
.....Mahatma Gandhi...
Susan


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
04/15/2007 3:13 PM  
I argee about how dangerous the situation is for your RAttie! Two dogs that don't like each other is bad, and when one is alot bigger than the other it will only turn out one way! My daughter's Argentine Mastiff and my daughter-in-law's dauchsund is my case in point. The Mastiff had one little cut on his neck and the dauchsund had a broken back and had to be put down. DON'T LEAVE THEM TOGETHER EVER! We had people around NEAR THEM when this happened but it was TOO QUICK for any body to be able to do anything about it. There are still bad feelings in the family because of it too. And that is the worst part, cause I don't expect my daughter and daughter-in-law ever to get along now too.
ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH OVERDOING Mom of eight, only three left at home! Pack leader to ten ratties: Maggie, Mysty, Berry, Simon, Ceecee and five puppies, Star,Sari, Bluebelle, Double stuf,and Snortie. As well as Ginger the Border Collie and a herd of turkeys!
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