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Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/16/2008 2:21 PM  
Posted By Anabella on 05/16/2008 1:16 PM
Ok I come from both sides. My husband has a child form his ex and I have a child from my ex. We have been threw the courts here in Californai he has no shoot. My husbands ex is a low life who has 3 kids by 3 different men. Lives in a really bad neighborhood, is on housing from the goverment, the daughter sleeps in the same room as her mother due to the space in the apartment and is on drugs. She has her own room at our house we both work good jobs and woould be the better envieriomnet for the daughter but they just will not give us custody. It would take thouands of dollars for us. The thing that bugs me the most is that this child thinks her mom' way of living is NORMAL!! Your daughter is 10 if I read you post right. At what age does the child have a choice of where he/she can live?



I have been told that a judge will not even consider asking the child until the age of 12. Here is a new twist. He called me this afternoon to tell me that he is seeing a lwayer today to discuss this w/ him. He says that his employer charges $10 each week for handling garnishment. I don't believe THAT. Lucky for me my husband works there too so I have him looking into it for me. IF that is the case I will agree to have him pay me directly but I still want DHHS to settle the amount. UGH!!!! This is all such a huge waste of time, energy, EVERYTHING! Why do this?


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PamWh


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
05/16/2008 2:51 PM  

I would still have DHHS handle it even if he is charged a fee.  Here's what I found on the Internet:

Fees

Employers may charge the Employee an administrative fee for processing the wage withholding order each pay period. The maximum amount is set by state law, and the fee must be withheld from the Employee's other wages, not the child support payment.

Maine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2.00 per remittance

So he's still lying to you.

 


PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
JRT_Rattie_Mom


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/16/2008 3:38 PM  

Amy - I'm so sorry that you & Kailey have to go through all of this. It sure brings back some very bad memories for me... because my ex was just like yours. He tried to humiliate me constantly in front of the kids, saying he couldn't affort to do anything with his kids, because of the "exorbitant" amount of child support he had to pay me. This was after we settled on everything out of court (like he wanted) and he was paying less than he would have if it had gone to court, plus I refused to ask for alimony. I could barely make ends meet as it was, and then when our son turned 15 my ex talked him into moving in with him, so that he could just cut the support he was paying in 1/2. I knew it wasn't legal for him to just do it, but I didn't have any fight left in me. I found out later he was making 3 times what he was when we got our divorce, but I never once asked for a support increase. If I had to go through it all again, I would NEVER have negotated with him without an attorney on my side.  One of the happiest days of my life was the day he no longer had support payments to make... and knowing I would never have to deal with him again.  
Hang in there... and wishing you all the best!  

 


Karen G.
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Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/16/2008 7:22 PM  
Posted By PamWh on 05/16/2008 2:51 PM

I would still have DHHS handle it even if he is charged a fee.  Here's what I found on the Internet:

Fees

Employers may charge the Employee an administrative fee for processing the wage withholding order each pay period. The maximum amount is set by state law, and the fee must be withheld from the Employee's other wages, not the child support payment.

 

Maine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2.00 per remittance

So he's still lying to you.

 

 OH MY GOD! I mean I figured he was lying but COME ON!


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dbleblanc


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/17/2008 9:27 PM  
Wow Amy, that is some kind of mess. Stay strong and be there for your daughter. Sounds like your ex has not a leg to stand on. Don't let him play with your mind. I am behind you 100%!!! A childs place is with the mom!!!

Donna (mommy to Kasey & Molly)
michelle


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/18/2008 7:13 AM  

In Wisconsin child support is set at 17% of the income the paying parent makes and the fee is $3.00 each payperiod and that is paid by the child support office from the paying parents monies not the receiving parent.  There are lawyers out there that will give help for very reduced or free.  Contact yor local child supprt agancy and explain it to them.


michelle, mom to Sydney (JRT), Sonic (Rattie) and Proud mom to Army son, Jordan



Maureen


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
05/18/2008 7:26 AM  
$20??? Please...what that is going to be is 2 gallons of gas!! He sure has had life easy....it is about time he paid and with his time too...he should have her if he isn't going to be there!

Maureen Mom to Abby, Barkley and Reggie..and cat Sarah Jane

Scratch a dog and you'll find a permanent job. ~Franklin P. Jones

Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/18/2008 2:18 PM  

Thanks guys. My husband and I have been doing alot of our own research. I'm not afraid of him anymore. I know he can't hurt me. But, if he does battle this out in court, it WILL hurt Kailey. I am NOT backing down this time! BRING IT ON PAL!!!!!!


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Crystal


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/18/2008 9:26 PM  
Good luck with every thing, I really wish that the judge would hear what your daughter had to say though, I'm sure every thing will go good.

Mom to Guenhwyvar, When life gets hard, take a long hot bath and enjoy knowing the door locks and your phone is on silent!!


rebelredneck71


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
05/19/2008 8:02 AM  
have an Idea will DHHS help you in finding an attorney, since they are a government agency, they should have a list of attorneys for you. Dealing with the government though you have to find the right button to push and you can get whatever you need.

As for losing your child, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know what age the child has the right to decided which parent they want to live with. If by chance it does go to court, I would let my daughter on the stand and tell her side of the story, because it's all about her in the long run right?

I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of getting her. Like other people have said get as many people as you can possibly think of (i.e. teachers, priciples, coaches, preachers anybody that has clout in the town you live in). to rally on your side. one thing a judge looks for is how much support you have in your town.

The only thing you might have against you is you said you are a stay at home mom. right? how do you support you and your child? not to be noisey or anything just a thought. It will be asked. Have yo remarried, or have a boyfriend? just asking.

sorry this is long I have went through the same with my daughter she is 16 now and lives with me. Her mom was a sex addict and when we got divorced she wasn't born yet. I had no idea she was pregnant, and even if she told me she was I wouldn't belive her or think it was mine, after the child was born and was about 5 I got a call saying to come get youor child her mom was in the hospital, I went togo get her and yes I had a DNA test done and she was mine. I set up an account in my duaghter name and it had to have 2 signatures for anyone to drw money out. That was my way of child support. If I gave her money she would spend it on herself or or boyfriend of the hour. I got custody of her after a very long and drawn out court battle. The only reason I got her was because my ex had been arrested several time for prostituion (sp?), drugs and assault, all at different times. and yes my daughter was left alone at home or with whoever. and after that they still wouldn't let me have but visitation right on weekends. My lawyer was very good and she got me full custody, and terminated my ex's parental rights. This has been 9 or 10 years ago and my ex has only seen her twice since then. I didn't ask for any child support from her at all. She's mine and that's the way it is. I know have 3 more children from my current wife, and she love s my daughter as if her own.

So good luck and you and your daughter are inmy prayers and thoughts.

GOOD LUCK.

Life is like a jar of Jalapenos what do you today could burn your butt tomorrow.

A.D.
daddy to 3 skin kiddos, and a dad to 3 fur kiddos
daisydeux


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/19/2008 8:06 AM  

You Go Girl!!!!!!!

dumont


Rattie
Rattie
05/20/2008 11:37 AM  
So sorry to hear what you are going through. It's not easy. The most important thing is that little girl. Have you spoken with her father about her behavaior? If not, you might want too. Some kids like any kind of attention from there parents and might not say things that are true. You might want to know what she saids and feel about you when shes at his house. Thats really important. I only know your side of the story, if all is true god bless your heart. Have you asked him for more money in the past? Do you really need more money to raise her or are you doing this for a power trip? You have many more years together you know, and you both should sit down in talk. Why did you invole DHS? As he not been paying you? You did say that she sees him every weekend. That doesn't sound like a dead beat dad. Sounds like you are luckily that he's even involed in the first place. My ex- husband does even come around that often. It's really to bad that you guys don't get along. Sounds like you both are not on the same page about your little one., and both on a power trip which should stop. Don't bring things to court if you don't have to, trust me. See if both of you can be adults and work things out. You said that you don't want to hurt her. Well what do you thing you are doing going to court, you'ld be just as guilty in the long run. Is he that bad of a dad, or do you only see the picture that you want to see? Talk with him. Tell him what you need. That girl needs both of you to get along. The money spent in court could be used for her later or a new car, her cheering, college. God bless.
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/20/2008 12:37 PM  
Posted By dumont on 05/20/2008 11:37 AM
So sorry to hear what you are going through. It's not easy. The most important thing is that little girl. Have you spoken with her father about her behavaior? If not, you might want too. Some kids like any kind of attention from there parents and might not say things that are true. You might want to know what she saids and feel about you when shes at his house. Thats really important. I only know your side of the story, if all is true god bless your heart. Have you asked him for more money in the past? Do you really need more money to raise her or are you doing this for a power trip? You have many more years together you know, and you both should sit down in talk. Why did you invole DHS? As he not been paying you? You did say that she sees him every weekend. That doesn't sound like a dead beat dad. Sounds like you are luckily that he's even involed in the first place. My ex- husband does even come around that often. It's really to bad that you guys don't get along. Sounds like you both are not on the same page about your little one., and both on a power trip which should stop. Don't bring things to court if you don't have to, trust me. See if both of you can be adults and work things out. You said that you don't want to hurt her. Well what do you thing you are doing going to court, you'ld be just as guilty in the long run. Is he that bad of a dad, or do you only see the picture that you want to see? Talk with him. Tell him what you need. That girl needs both of you to get along. The money spent in court could be used for her later or a new car, her cheering, college. God bless.



Did you read ALL the posts from the beginning of this thread? If so you would lnow you are WAY out of line with your comments/questions. I NEVER called him a deadbeat. HE said I am making him feel like one. I am not dragging us through court HE is. The ONLY money I have asked for in the past 9 yrs is 1/2 the cost of her activities. I ahev never asked for an increase in support. In our state it is very common for child support top go through DHS. It has NOTHING to do with wether or not the parent paying support has missed payments or not. Also in Maine the custodial parent(ME) is entitled to an increase every THREE years. It has been NINE YEARS. Am I on a power trip? ABSOLUTELY not. Do I really need more money to raise her? Um...yeah. Heard of cost of living increases? Can you afford to live on what you earned 9 yrs ago? Of course you can't. Your comments have really struck a nerve.

 


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Crystal


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 12:45 PM  
Amy did you get the pm I sent you?, And remember some people don't always pay complete attention to all the details, do let that get to you even though I understand how it did. Remeber you have enough people here who understand what you are going though, to a certain point, your a good person so don't let others stess you out

Mom to Guenhwyvar, When life gets hard, take a long hot bath and enjoy knowing the door locks and your phone is on silent!!


Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/20/2008 12:48 PM  

Going to check it now. OOOOOooooooo that person SET me off!


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chris


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/20/2008 1:55 PM  
sorry you have to go threw with this i gave up on desy's dad ever being there money or just being there for him a long time ago i figured no money from him was the way to go he has popped in on desy twice since birth both times i had to send my son to a doctor he had a nervious break down both times.........his dad live down the street for ten yrs and desy's best friend used to live next door to desy's dad,, he never would look at him talk to him and probably would of never set eyes on him if it wasn't for his mother making him......desy's understands now verses then and him being 14yrs old now i guess that is how thangs will always be his dad has a daughter now and i pray desy never finds out cause i don't think he would understand why he can be a dad to his daughter and not to him.........good luck.
PamWh


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
05/20/2008 3:31 PM  
Amy, is Dumont your ex-husband or his current wife? Sure sounds like it.

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
dumont


Rattie
Rattie
05/20/2008 5:44 PM  
I'm very sorry if I have upset you. I justcouldn't believe all that I have read. Your coments about you having to file for bankruptcy, martial debt, istead of remembering his checkbook, I stated this treat I really just intended to get it off my chest to feel better, he said that he would pay me $20 more a week and extra for whatever, he was in tear, He's scared now, he says he's feels like he's being punished and labeled a dead beat dad, Does the shoe fit?, I only said that in my head. Nice, I read all your comments. At first I felt a little bad for you. I can related do to my dead beat ex husband that hardly comes around. I'm just advicing you to keep the peace. What threat did e give you? Did he threat something only after you ased for more money, or was it the way you went about it? You never answerd the rest of my questions, about talking this over with him about your daughter. What nerve I have. Seems like There is a peace missing. Is it more money or improving the child and dad relationship. Sounds like you just want more money. I think there is nothing wrong with that. You still need to keep the peace. Sorry again....p.s I'm not other man's wife, I have enough drama in my life as it is, never mind dealing with this drama
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/20/2008 5:53 PM  
Posted By dumont on 05/20/2008 5:44 PM
I'm very sorry if I have upset you. I justcouldn't believe all that I have read. Your coments about you having to file for bankruptcy, martial debt, istead of remembering his checkbook, I stated this treat I really just intended to get it off my chest to feel better, he said that he would pay me $20 more a week and extra for whatever, he was in tear, He's scared now, he says he's feels like he's being punished and labeled a dead beat dad, Does the shoe fit?, I only said that in my head. Nice, I read all your comments. At first I felt a little bad for you. I can related do to my dead beat ex husband that hardly comes around. I'm just advicing you to keep the peace. What threat did e give you? Did he threat something only after you ased for more money, or was it the way you went about it? You never answerd the rest of my questions, about talking this over with him about your daughter. What nerve I have. Seems like There is a peace missing. Is it more money or improving the child and dad relationship. Sounds like you just want more money. I think there is nothing wrong with that. You still need to keep the peace. Sorry again....p.s I'm not other man's wife, I have enough drama in my life as it is, never mind dealing with this drama



Holy COW! Where do you get off?! No kidding Pam This chick does sound like my ex. Think of HIS checkbook?! You mean the one that buys his Harley, four wheeler, mountain bike, dirt bike, snowmobile? That checkbook? What threat? How about "I'll sue you for custody?" How does that sound for a power trip? There is NO piece missing. Have I tried to talk to him? OH YEAH!  I talk, he swears and screams and calls me vulgar names. Sorry that your ex never comes around. Maybe you are a bit bitter and jealous? I have PLENTY more on the tip of my tongue to tell you but I respect the other people on this site.


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dumont


Rattie
Rattie
05/20/2008 6:01 PM  
chill for a few!!! Respect is a wonderful thing. Please don't be upset because you don't like my comments. I'm not jealous about my ex. He's a no dam good for nothing. He's doesn't even care to see his children. I just get up set when others complain think that have it so bad, not realize how good they really have it. He sees every weekend you said? My kids cry because that think there father hates them. Try dealing with that. Talk with others that don't have it going so great.
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/20/2008 6:09 PM  

Obviously you did NOT read the other posts. Kailey gets p/u by her Dad every Friday then she gets dumped in someone elses hands so he can go "play" at 36 yrs old with his "toys". She cries when she comes home because she did not see him. You are clearly not well informed AND a very bitter scorned woman. Just because a father pays minimal support ( less than what was court ordered 9 yrs ago) and sees his daughter a couple hours a week does not exclude him from any other responsibility. I think it's time for a moderator to lock this topic. Dumont you can say whatever you want. I'm done here. Tracey, Morgan, Lance please lock this before it gets any uglier.


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