Header Graphic
 Search  
Friday, July 04, 2008 ..:: Home ::.. Register  Login
 Ratty Messages          Minimize

  
 Recent Photos/Videos  Minimize

  
 Recent 'Just Chat'       Minimize

  

If you need help, or have questions, comments or suggestions, please post in the Rat-Terrier.com Info and Help forum.

General Moderators:
Lance
Morgan
Tracey

Contest Girl:
Jan

Training Moderator:
Nora

 You're Not Alone Minimize
Membership Membership:
Latest New User Latest: smamados
New Today New Today: 4
New Yesterday New Yesterday: 5
User Count Overall: 1977

People Online People Online:
Visitors Visitors: 20
Members Members: 9
Total Total: 29

Online Now Online Now:
01: Brandy
02: Zogman100
03: Katie'sMom
04: tford6
05: Rattermom
06: rattytatty
07: Mooses'Mama
08: ivy
09: amr23

 Print   
 Rat-Terrier.com Minimize
Subject: ROCK-Type A mini or Type B????
Prev Next
You are not authorized to post a reply.

Author Messages
Tinkerbelle's Mommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 8:20 AM  

This is a friend of mine's dog...He is a rat with papers, but she sent me this picture asking if he is type B or Type A.  I thought Type A, but he is much shorter than her other rat.









rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
05/08/2008 8:24 AM  
Hard to tell from the pictures... but he looks like a Type B (short-legged rattie) to me ...
Mary Beth is more familiar with the Type B's... she can probably tell you better than I can!


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, NA, NAJ
Katie'sMom


Contest Girl
<b>Contest Girl</b>
05/08/2008 8:37 AM  
Yes, MB can tell you --- but he looks like type B to me too.


Shhhhh - Please don't tell Katie she is not eligible to run for President. She so loves to dress up, give speeches and pose for pictures. Dixie and I are just trying to humor her. -- Katie's Mom


Check out my site:
http://blackhorsejewelryonline.com


Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/08/2008 8:51 AM  

 Looks like he's inbetween....maybe part A and part B?  Breeders aren't supposed to mix them but they could....

Here's a pic of Mayfly, type B, with 2 type B parents.







Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
Tinkerbelle's Mommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 9:05 AM  

He looks to me like he has B front legs and A back legs...maybe he is a mix of both.  He's a cutie no matter what, but they are breeding their dogs and I know that the female is a type A.

Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/08/2008 9:35 AM  
Posted By Tinkerbelle's Mommy on 05/08/2008 9:05 AM

He looks to me like he has B front legs and A back legs...maybe he is a mix of both.  He's a cutie no matter what, but they are breeding their dogs and I know that the female is a type A.



Yeah, his back legs look too long for a B.  He could have 2 type A parents and one of them has a "B" in their family somewhere.


Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
vccarmi


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
05/08/2008 11:33 AM  

To me, the photo looks like he is a little pudgy and hiding his true diminsions.

Vickie

gwacie


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/08/2008 11:54 AM  
Type C - CUTE (could be the angle of the standing picture is off a bit - hard to really tell without a good side view)

gwacie (Bethany)
http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Ratbone Rescue Home Visit Coordinator
and Foster Home
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 12:20 PM  

oh B for sure! even if the angle of the couch make 'um look un-even. its something about the proportions of his legs that makes him a B his Coffin(forarm) bones would be much longer,Look at Caesar and Shamus (Shamus is a short A )Caesar is a true B see the difference? I lke B's just as well as A's since I got BOTH! Lucky you what a sweety!!!! cute little athletic body!













Linda talatzko
Photobucket
chris


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 12:48 PM  
sorry can't help but cute pics
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
05/08/2008 12:58 PM  
He looks like a pudgy A to me. He is more square, doesn't really have the body length of a B. Shouldn't they know what their dogs are before they breed them?

Sarah

"Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

Mitzy's Mom


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
05/08/2008 1:09 PM  

The more I look a the pic the more I think pudgy A or half and half.  Check this link out: http://www.nrta.com/newratstandards5.html  To me he looks like the "tuxedo" rattie below only he's chubbier.  The Class B rat on the right looks more like my Mayfly who I know is a B.

"The Rat Terrier not only comes in 3 sizes but also two body types. Rats that have a square, long leg look are shown as Class A.  Rat Terriers that have a shorter leg length  in proportion to body are shown as Class B. The following standards will apply to both classes with the exception of the difference in body to leg length (shown below) also see (Body Standards). These are two separate and unique body styles for the Rat Terrier and to keep them this way, it is recommended that they never be bred together. They have been with the Rat since their American existence, and there are no differences other than body style. Both Class A and B dogs share all of the same wonderful rat terrier traits. To deny either style would be to taint the existence of the breed. "
 

CLASS A 10:10:9 RATIO
CLASS B 10:8:7 RATIO

Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 2:06 PM  

thanks Im glad you posted that I keep that too! it the best example Ive seen ou there! I guess after you see as many as us it pretty easy to tell the difference...and as for the breeding a's to b's unfortanatly a LOT of people don't go by that,in the quest for really small A's!  cash's dad (see insert)is and Very Hefty B MINI! his mom a true toy A (2nd pix)and luckly Cash is a tiny TYPEY A that looks just like his dad in color but his mom in size...this breeder uses him on ALL of his DAMS and get typey toys! Now Shamus..his dad(3pix) looks JUST like Cash(no relation)His mom is a STOUT A and he IS! STOUT! looks like a short A(or TALL a) but he is still young at 10mons he is slimming down a little and looks more like a dog instead of a pudgy pup,he might even grow a little more...but he defiantly!! isn't a B! I never thought Polo would be taller than Cash but he is now !so sometimes they surprise you!













Linda talatzko
Photobucket
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/08/2008 2:12 PM  

well had to go out and nap some pix! didn't realize that they had grown!!!look at these HAPPY smiling faces!!! we (sept caesar)will be 1 yr soon...Cash is the oldest his is 6-24!!! wow!!! then Shamus,7-7,then Polo! oh they grow soooo quick and my gradn -rat-pup Domino too!oh if they could stay pups....










Linda talatzko
Photobucket
winnihoohoo


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/08/2008 7:17 PM  

Brielle is a type A, and so is Winchester, but she is shorter than him.






talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/14/2008 8:39 PM  

YEA GIRLS DO TEND TO BE A LITTLE SHORTER...depends who they took after mom OR DAD...SHAMUS(LEFT)( CASH ON THE RT) 7 MONS IS FINALLY GETTING A LITTLE LONGER LEG...BUT HE IS STILL STUBBY!hIS LEGS ARE THE RIGHT LENGTH HIS bARREL IS JUST SO BIG HE LOOKS SHORTER...







Linda talatzko
Photobucket
Dinks Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/15/2008 12:45 PM  

He looks like a B to me


~Susy~
maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 7:36 PM  

I think that little cutie doesn't have a long enough body to be a type B. His front legs look on the shorter/ stockier side, but his back legs seem to raise up to an A standard. It may be the angle, but his body appears shorter. CoCo is a B, and a pretty long/tanklike one at that, and Mayfly has the same build of what the NRTA describes as correct conformation for a B. I think this boy is built more similar to my Gus, who has shorter front legs, and longer back legs. When you stand him side by side with CoCo, not only is he taller, but shorter in body as well. Plus, he isn't the sturdy build that she is. My guess (since he was a rescue and I have no way of knowing) is that Gus is a cross between an A/B and that's why he like this other little guy, doesn't quite fit either dimensions perfectly.

This is CoCo ( the best side view I have) versus the stature of Gus.


**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
Jules


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
05/17/2008 7:40 PM  
looks like a mix of the two, it seems to happen a lot.

“Photography is about finding out what can happen in the frame. When you put four edges around some facts, you change those facts.” -Garry Winogrand

Been a member of rt.com since Aug. 2005
maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 7:42 PM  
Posted By winnihoohoo on 05/08/2008 7:17 PM

Brielle is a type A, and so is Winchester, but she is shorter than him.


Also, Donna in your pic, you can see just by Remi's (the one on her lap) front paws and body type how much shorter the B's are in proportion to the A's. I knw Brielle and Winchester are larger then he is too, but he looks long even in that picture. And I know that he is a true B as does Donna because he and CoCo are out of the same litter.  Your pic is a good comparison, even though Remi isn't standing up.


**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
Emg


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 7:43 PM  
Pudgy type A, I think. The fat -er, I mean muscle- seems to be hiding his dimentions.

Sara, Sam's mommy
winnihoohoo


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/17/2008 10:39 PM  

Thank you. Remi says hello!

 

Posted By maggiew607 on 05/17/2008 7:42 PM

Posted By winnihoohoo on 05/08/2008 7:17 PM

Brielle is a type A, and so is Winchester, but she is shorter than him.


Also, Donna in your pic, you can see just by Remi's (the one on her lap) front paws and body type how much shorter the B's are in proportion to the A's. I knw Brielle and Winchester are larger then he is too, but he looks long even in that picture. And I know that he is a true B as does Donna because he and CoCo are out of the same litter.  Your pic is a good comparison, even though Remi isn't standing up.

maggiew607


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/17/2008 10:41 PM  
CoCo says hello too. Its so funny to me that as different as they all look, ou can see the resemblence in so much of their features. How big is Remi now?

**Maggie**Owned by COCO and new guy ANGUS**
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
winnihoohoo


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/17/2008 10:52 PM  

He is 7 pounds. I just measured him approximately 13 inches long, and  7 and a half to 8 inches tall. He was afraid of the measuring tape...

 

Posted By maggiew607 on 05/17/2008 10:41 PM
CoCo says hello too. Its so funny to me that as different as they all look, ou can see the resemblence in so much of their features. How big is Remi now?

 






Erinj09


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/17/2008 11:01 PM  
im not even close to an expert, i dont even have one of these guys yet, but has your friend ever though about asking the breeders? or does the breeder have a website where we could see both parents of the puppy? just a thought.
~Erin
Jules


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
05/18/2008 12:00 AM  

Amy (an old member) her dog as between an A and a B.







“Photography is about finding out what can happen in the frame. When you put four edges around some facts, you change those facts.” -Garry Winogrand

Been a member of rt.com since Aug. 2005
Tinkerbelle's Mommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/18/2008 8:36 AM  

Well, I went to see him in person and I think he is a Type A.  He is very muscular(looks fat in the pic, but looks quite solid in real life)  He is a little shorter than Tinkerbelle, but I think he is a small standard Type A.  He was very sweet and Tinkerbelle was a little smitten with his studliness!  Their female is much bigger than Tinkerbelle, so I think that is why he looks so short in the pics.  She is more the size of 15-18lbs and taller than Tink....kind of like Katie Scarlett with those super long legs!

Tinkerbelle is 13lbs and a petite standard type A.

Carol

talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/21/2008 4:10 PM  

a really good example is to measure from their elbow to the wrist,on true (B's)TEDDYS IT's very SHORT! SEE CAESAR LITTLE STUBBY ARMS THEN LOOK AT CASH,he is a true A but tiny! And there little forarms are VERY muscled too.A's tend to be very fine boned..The long back doesn't matter ALL my boys have long backs!







Linda talatzko
Photobucket
tauney4


Feisty
Feisty
05/21/2008 5:12 PM  
i don t know if tauney is a or b i jkust know she is a rattie and i love her to death!!!!!
talatzkomom


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/22/2008 3:29 PM  

oh..she is just the cutist little A girl! look at those long shapely GAMS!even if she is tiny she is STILL a A


Linda talatzko
Photobucket
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Forums > Photos and Videos > Photos: Ratties > ROCK-Type A mini or Type B????



ActiveForums 3.7

 Print   

Copyright 2007   Terms Of Use  Privacy Statement