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andy


Rattie
Rattie
08/16/2007 7:03 PM  

 My new pup Sparky isdoing good about peeing wear he should but he just poops every all over the place. I dont know what to do. He is 11 weeks old and im just not shure what the proper method is to break him of this. Please Help if you can.

DaisysMom


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08/16/2007 7:28 PM  
Are you crate training him (which I personally recommend highly) and is he on a feeding schedule.

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

rattytatty


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08/16/2007 10:42 PM  
I agree he needs to be on a schedule with very little variation for awhile if at all possible. Also, make sure you are feeding him a high quality dogfood which has very few byproducts. The more "corn" and fillers (byproducts) the dogfood has, the more your puppy will poop.

And Tracey is right -- crate training him will eliminate many of the problems you are experiencing.
buttonbutt


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08/20/2007 9:08 AM  

My pups have always house trained quickly so I finally typed up my approach, acquired over the years,  & saved it for forum cries for help. 

1.  Fixed feeding times (don't leave food in bowl all day long) is necessary if you want success.

2. Cardinal Rule:  Walk dog IMMEDIATELY after eating, sleeping & playing (that third one's a bit tricky with young pups as sometimes that's only 5 mins! ). That's when puppies get urges to go pottie. Always walk them to the same spot in the yard! The first week or so, praise with a treat and exhuberant verbal praise when done. Soon you can just give verbal praise.  Bring them right back inside, because if you allow them to play afterwards, they will confuse two important concepts:  OUTSIDE = POTTY; INDOORS = PLAY.  Restrict play to indoors until they're fully pottie trained lest they get these two ideas reversed (one of mine did)!  The logic here is if they play after doing business & then you let them in "after you're done playing with them" the Cardinal Rule (after play) kicks in again and they immediately squat to pee!    There'll be time enough to play outside when they have got those two basic concepts firm in their widdle heads.  

3. In addition to the Cardinal Rule, walk them hourly the first week, then every 2 hours the next week, then every three the third week, and so on (except at night, when you walk when they wake). In other words, BEAT THEM TO THE URGE! Remember, always take to the SAME SPOT in the yard. Prior pee & poop scents will speed up the learning process.  Dogs learn where to go from adult pack members.  If you have an already trained adult dog, it helps train even faster!.  It is vital you do not "free feed" but give food at fixed times of the day.  Puppies have a strong gastro-colo-rectal response & tend to have to poop within 3-10 minutes of eating (varies with each dog).  Use that fact to facilitate your training efforts!

4. Crate them (within hearing distance first 2-4 weeks) at night, whenever you're not home or can't watch them. Dogs will try hard not to soil their "den", so this works in your favor. Be sure crate isn't too large or they'll make a spot to go in the crate! When they wake up at night walk them to "the designated spot".  When done, praise, treat  & bring right back to crate to sleep (do not be tempted to play with them.  Ride out the whining!). You will lose some sleep week 1 & 2 , but believe me, the fast results will be worth it. If they go in the crate (because you slept through their waking), just clean it up in the A.M. with no correction.

5. Accidents:  if caught in the act just pick the pup up quickly, (scoop & run) say "No, pottie outside" in a firm, displeased voice and take them outside to the usual spot. (this teaches the word "outside" fast, too, by the way). Set them down and again say "pottie outside". They'll usually go on & finish the interrupted task. Praise for finishing in the right place, outside, & just clean up when you get back inside. 

If found after the fact let them passively watch you clean up the urine spot with Natures Miracle  saying  "pottie outside" in a normal tone as you do so.   If it's a poop, I pick up the poop in a paper towel with the pup watching (pups learn watching mom clean the den in the wild, don't they?), carry it outside (with pup following). Drop the poop out of the paper onto the ground & say "pottie outside" in a normal tone. That's it. Don't make a big deal of it!  No harsh voice.  Above all, never rub nose in urine or poop or you'll teach the dog eliminating itself is bad & maybe I better hide it better (or yuck, eat it to hide the evidence) next time!  Remember, dogs live in the moment & don't connect delayed corrections with the act that occured a long time ago.  But they "reshape behaviors" learning from watching other pack members and from watching mother dog "clean the den" of all the puppy poops!

Hope this helps. Sorry if I've overwhelmed you with detail.  I'm a retired teacher.  What can I say? .   All my dogs, including two males, have been house trained in just 1-2 months with this method.  Even my rescue Zipper, picked up by animal control at 5 mos., used to going whenever and wherever, house trained in 2 months!   Only the rare accident for another month, usually when I've gotten busy & forgotten to let the pup outside.  Can't hardly blame the dog for those, now can I? 

 

swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
08/20/2007 9:17 AM  
Great advice! That is what worked for Jack.

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
08/20/2007 9:26 AM  

Yep, works flawlessly every time!  That first month  is a "killer" on your sleep!  It exhausts me so I always swear I'll never get another dog, but I always survive & know it really is worth it in the end.  Now if my girls went potty inside, I'd know for sure they were SICK!

Justin Stonewall



08/30/2007 10:47 AM  

Just the help I've been looking for!!

 

Thanks so much!

 

ClareClaymore


Newbie
Newbie
08/30/2007 11:34 AM  
We are still havening a few lil accidents I am gonna re route and try to follow this a lil more to the point and see how that helps. like now I have a mad hubby he stepped in pee this morning and he was getting ready to work so he got mad at me for not taking her out in time its 4 am I was just waking up and trying to get robe on to take her. in away I was at falt should just went and scooped her up and dressed in my robe at the same time. Like I usually do I was just so tired this morning. I noticed that biggest majority of accidents have been me not tuning into them I will be busy playing video games or cleaning and just not watch good enough I been working on this and it has resulted in fewer accidents.
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
08/30/2007 8:31 PM  
Hope it helps Justin. It's an accumulation of knowledge learned over the years with 8 dogs total.

Yes Clare, re your last comment, that's usually when my dogs' accidents have happened....When I got inattentive. . But we're all human and get busy. Eventually those accidents stop, because you get right back on track with "the schedule". It's kinda like in Weigh Watchers, they always tell ya if you have a weak moment and "indulge", just get right back "on program". Same concept! Don't beat yourself up when therre's an accident. Just stick with it girl. You'll be successful in the end with patience & diligence.
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