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Yoda


Rattie
Rattie
07/20/2007 10:24 AM  

here I was, thinking my dog was so awesome and well behaved, until this past weekend.  I know its friday already, but it has taken me all week to absorb this!

I always have people over, friends, family, etc.  Yoda never showed signs of aggression to them. she occasionally barks when someone pulls up in the driveway, but I've thought nothing of it.  Of course there was the post where I told about how she bit me a few weeks ago so I guess that was the beginning.

Well, this weekend I took her to a small out of town, camping out style wedding. There was not really that many people there when I arrived, so I dont think she was over whelmed.  I took her out of the car, on the leash, and the first person who came up to us, she turned around and almost bit her hand off!  Luckily no harm was done, (good lord, it was the bride!!!) I apologized greatly.  Within the next few hours she tried to bite 3 more people.  I was horrified!!!  I ended up leaving her in the kennel in the shade next to our tent for the rest of the day, coming back to check on her and let her out to potty, have water, etc. 

I met a girl the next day who was very into dog training and she helped me with a technique, which worked awesome, but Im still shocked at her behavior.  I had no idea my dog was like this!! she is such a loveable, obedient dog.  what did I do wrong???

basically the girl told me to take Yoda on the leash and walk past her.  everytime Yoda would growl I would make her sit and not let Yoda look at the girl but me instead.  then I would repeat that over and over.  within five minutes she was licking the girl.  later on I took her around (willing, forewarned) others and repeated the technique and it seemed to work.....

anyways I just want to know if any one has ANY advice AT ALL. I dont know if I should try this technique in public, how would I get a complete stranger to do this? so Im wondering if their are other techniques.  I do not want my dog to get this any more rooted in her behavior. 

I also wanted to ask if the fact that her father showed aggressive behavior that it might be heriditary.  Thanks so much in advance, any and all advice GREATLY appreciated!!!!

Yoda


Rattie
Rattie
07/20/2007 10:45 AM  
okay- i just re-read that and realize I sound a little frantic. Im just surprised, you must understand, she is such an awesome dog, its like Dr. Jekel , Mr. Hyde! also I wanted to add I took her on a 3 mile jog with me at the wedding and she still acted a fool when she was completely worn out.
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
07/20/2007 10:48 AM  
Well, first off, sorry you had to find this out at a wedding! I don't have a lot of advice but I was watching a show on animal planet the other night that had an aggressive terrier on. They took the dog for a walk and if he started to get aggressive ad growl they would turn around, walk the other wa a few steps until he stopped (to distract him) and the turn back around and start again. The did this everytime. It sounds as if the general purpose of this is the same as the girl was teaching you at the wedding, I guess it is just whatever works for you. I would definately keep up with it. Keep us posted.

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
07/20/2007 10:52 AM  

Well, my first question is have you had her out in situations like this before?  Because a wedding, even a small one with few people, could make a lot of dogs anxious unless they're used to crowds.  No excuse for biting but still....

And her sire - if he was agressive because of something in his personality then it could be genetic....and I would have to ask why was he being bred, then?  But if he's agressive thru lack of or bad training or experiences, then no...

 


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
07/20/2007 10:54 AM  
MB.....just wondering why you say sire and not dam too? Is it passed through the father's side? interesting....

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



Paul


Feisty
Feisty
07/20/2007 10:55 AM  

Sounds like the advice you got at the wedding worked pretty well. I would think that "practice" on that would help even more.  When I was training my doberman to lie down and stay---not move--I took her to a shopping center parking lot, and (out of the traffic area, of course) would have her stay amid all the distractions going on there, and I had no problem asking strangers that were walking by to assist by walking past her.  As long as you know and THEY know that Yoda is under your control, and can't bite (she'll be on a leash, right?) I find that most people are more than willing to give a minute of their time to help in the training a dog to have manners.


"Train now, or forever hold your leash"

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Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
07/20/2007 11:40 AM  
Posted By swatson6 on 07/20/2007 10:54 AM
MB.....just wondering why you say sire and not dam too? Is it passed through the father's side? interesting....



Only because she mentioned that the sire was agressive...if she said something about the dam I missed it.  If it's genetic it can be passed through either parent.  Sorry for the confusion.


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org
Yoda


Rattie
Rattie
07/20/2007 11:49 AM  

I dont know why the lady bred the aggressive dad. I should have done some homework beforehand, I was feeling upset grieving for my friend commiting suicide and just went out and bought myself a dog from the paper without doing any research at all. I barely knew anything about rat terriers and usually I research everything to death. all I know is that she had the dad in a pen and he acted like he was going to eat me. the mom was sweet and loveable & healthy and so were the puppies so I went with it. anyways, I still have the breeder's email. Do you think its worth it to drop her a line asking why she thinks the dad is aggressive?

Yoda has been out and about before and sometimes does a little growl, which is usually followed by tail wagging and excitement as the person approaches. at the wedding she was acting like a mad woman.

there was a period through late winter/early spring where I was watching my sister's husky for a few months. this was the time I started taking her on walks through town and she never showed aggression, so Im wondering if she didnt feel the need because she had a big male dog with her.

thanks guys!

Katie'sMom


Newbie
Newbie
07/20/2007 11:50 AM  
Sounds like you got great advice that is working well -- so I'd just keep it up and try to take her out and expose her to different situations, like Paul said.
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
07/20/2007 11:54 AM  
Posted By Mitzy's Mom on 07/20/2007 11:40 AM
Posted By swatson6 on 07/20/2007 10:54 AM
MB.....just wondering why you say sire and not dam too? Is it passed through the father's side? interesting....



Only because she mentioned that the sire was agressive...if she said something about the dam I missed it.  If it's genetic it can be passed through either parent.  Sorry for the confusion.

Duh!  I so missed that, I don't know how........sorry.....

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
07/20/2007 11:58 AM  
Posted By Yoda on 07/20/2007 11:49 AM

I dont know why the lady bred the aggressive dad. I should have done some homework beforehand, I was feeling upset grieving for my friend commiting suicide and just went out and bought myself a dog from the paper without doing any research at all. I barely knew anything about rat terriers and usually I research everything to death. all I know is that she had the dad in a pen and he acted like he was going to eat me. the mom was sweet and loveable & healthy and so were the puppies so I went with it. anyways, I still have the breeder's email. Do you think its worth it to drop her a line asking why she thinks the dad is aggressive?

Yoda has been out and about before and sometimes does a little growl, which is usually followed by tail wagging and excitement as the person approaches. at the wedding she was acting like a mad woman.

there was a period through late winter/early spring where I was watching my sister's husky for a few months. this was the time I started taking her on walks through town and she never showed aggression, so Im wondering if she didnt feel the need because she had a big male dog with her.

thanks guys!

 

It may not be genetic with the dad....you would think that if it was the breeder wouldn't have him right there where potential puppy buyers would see it. 

Basically it sounds like your pup just needs some confidence building and since what the girl at the wedding showed you is working, then just stick with it.  Possibly at the wedding she was extra excited.  Be sure to always be the "alpha" with her, that will also help with her confidence.  JMO


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude
Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org
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