Hi!

Thankfully, I found this wonderful place after we found our (now) 10-week old RT, Huey Longdog. I'm a novice professional pet dog trainer, and want very much to ILP this boy at 6 months, as I think he'll be an amazing tracking, agility, and earthdog boy.

I can't find the specific information, though, as to whether his short legs will prevent this. According to the RTCA, he's *not* a RT, but a Teddy Roosevelt, as far as they're concerned. That's fine and dandy, as breeding is the farthest thing from my mind, so FSS is not an issue, but here in Huntsville, we have an active AKC club.

I have emails out to the AKC and RTCA, but so far no answer.

Thanks so much!

Sorry to sound like an ignoramus, but what does ILP'd mean?  I have a B body ratty myself...

Welcome to the site!  Great and knowledgable people here!

It's the AKC program that allows non-AKC papered dogs, or, in our case, Foundation Stock Breeds, to compete in non-conformation events, like obedience, agility, etc.

Indefinite Listing Priveliges are for purebred dogs who have been rescued, born to unregistered, but purebred parents, or lost their papers. They must be neutered/spayed, and over six months of age.

Thanks- I love all the info and pictures!

My vets tell me if Sandy didn't have the nerve damage in her paws, she'd make a great agility dog cuz of her muscular "haunches"... lol  I tell her she's got big hips like her Mommy lol  but even with her handicap, she can run and chase the squirrels like nothing's wrong!!

So, the RTCA got back to me, but didn't really clear anything up!

"The very short legged dogs are seriously faulted with the AKC (and your guy might not be accepted by AKC? BUT they have full registration priviledges with UNITED Kennel Club as TEDDY ROOSEVELT TERRIERS! And you don't have to neuter him unless you want to, to show him in UKC events and even conformation. check out www.ukcdogs.com for an application/ There are lots of UKC shows out there and they offer terrier races and agilty earth dog and other events AND DO NOT require the breed to be approved to show in specific events. Their shows have jr showmanship at every match"

So, that's an option- the UKC does have limited registrations as well, but there are no events in our area... I guess the best option is to apply with the AKC at 6 months, and aim for a leggier photo, then do UKC as a last resort. I do believe the AKC won't cross-register domestically, meaning registering a type-B rattie who has also been registered as a Teddy Roosevelt will automatically disqualify him.

Oh, well!

Here are a few shots of the boy in question; his legs aren't quite as short and stumpy as the UKC champions I've seen, but he's nowhere near being square, and is an obvious type-B.







Also? He's pretty freakin' cute!

Raaaaaaather...

Now THAT is a cutie Roosevelt Teddie !!! He is a DOLL!

Who cares about the registration level/nomenclature. He is just the cutest!

He look like my Remington...

Truth! However, it would be awful hard to prove my chops as a trainer by titling him as Freeman's Huey Longdog: Cutest Dog in the Whooooole World!

(It ain't just vanity, either. He's already tunnelling through 12-pack soda boxes and scent-retrieving all by himself, so I think he'll also enjoy it!) Though on the upside of UKC registration, they do Terrier Races, which are SO COOOOOOL!

He is very cute!  I have 3 type A Ratty puppies and their legs have grown a lot in the past week!  They are 12 weeks old now.  When I look back at their baby pics, I can see major leg lengthening(yep I think that's a word) just recently.

They don't "recognize" the Teddies???!!!!!! OUCH!!

NO offense to the "A's" But PULEEEEEZE!!! The Teddies are among the BEST!!! (and durn if they aren't the coolest...cutest...and well, OK..I digress....)

Stooopid rules.

By the way...Yogi got on my 'puter and this is from him! Sorry!

They don't "recognize" the Teddies???!!!!!! OUCH!!

NO offense to the "A's" But PULEEEEEZE!!! The Teddies are among the BEST!!! (and durn if they aren't the coolest...cutest...and well, OK..I digress....)

Stooopid rules.

By the way...Yogi got on my 'puter and this is from him! Sorry!

OOPS...Yogi double posted. Can NOT control that doggie...durnnit!

I'm also baffled as to why some registries won't recognise the Teddies. If you look back through really old photos of ratties, they seem more similar to the type B's. And Teddy Rosevelt is the one whot attached the name Rat Terrier to them.(I'm sure most of you know the story behind that) Before that, they were mostly refered to as fiest. The breed eventually became refined to what we all know as the American Rat terrier with two body types.

Personally-I love both types. I have one of eachBut, there is something about the type B's that really catch my attention. I think it's their power and "punchiness"!