maggiew607

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| 09/18/2008 4:31 PM |
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Nora,
We are having a little bit of a challenge with walking as of late, and i have realized that I need to retrain Angus on how to properly walk on a leash. Which type of leash do you recommend while we are doing just a little bit or retraining so that he has better manners. Fixed or retractable? I was thinking fixed because it sets clearer boundaries than a retractable which I think is where we ran into our problems in the first place.
Which do you recommend for re-leash training??? |
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**Maggie, Mom to CoCo and Angus**
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tiggarat

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| 09/18/2008 4:56 PM |
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| I'd say a fixed leash...I don't care for the retractable ones anyways (far too little control, especially when another dog or car goes by). |
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Lisabeth
furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie) Buddy - gone but never forgotten.
"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith |
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lynnygal

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| 09/18/2008 5:25 PM |
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Well, for training purposes I'd say fixed too.....but I must admit that now that my girlies are older I do use the retractable ones for leisure walks....etc.....not training time.... Lynn |
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taz&deb

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| 09/18/2008 5:34 PM |
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Just had to vent about retractable leashes. Everyone in my family uses them and wants to use them on Taz. I really can't stand them. Too little controll on a moments notice. Then if you drop theat handle it scares the dog to death, and you can't step on those leases to stop them when dropped. Not to mention - rope burns. My aunt has wicked chis that she walk with my dogs and I have the scars to proce it.
Sorry - I have issues, I know. |
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RatsRule!

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| 09/18/2008 5:36 PM |
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| FIXED!!! JMO. Too many problems with retractables. |
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rattytatty

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| 09/20/2008 1:38 PM |
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Fixed leash... I've never owned a retractable leash, and never will. |
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~Nora~ Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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lihuesue

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| 09/20/2008 2:18 PM |
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Fixed leash here too! I'm training Luke to walk right beside me. I guess you could say I'm using a "short" leash as I have it slacked between my hands and he only gets enough of the leash to walk, keeping his head high so he's not distracted with everything around him. I let the slack out when he's in an area where he wants to sniff and pp. I've used the retractable ones for the Pugs. They hardly ever take it to the end of them. They like to stay close. They all have both types for different times. But for training, a fixed leash is the best, at least I think so. |
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pepper

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| 09/21/2008 7:38 PM |
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| Hehe, Pepper's got 3 leashes, and she knows what they are for. I use a retractable for going outside to potty, cuz i can stand at the door and it gives her a little bit of room to go do her thing (especially in winter). She has a standard fixed leash for training and walks, then she has a harness and lead for the car. I'm tellin ya. These dogs are so smart, they will know the difference if you want to have more than one. Pepper now goes to the leashes where they hang and touch the one she wants, so I know if she needs potty, or wants to go play at the dog park. |
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Kristin ~ Pepper's mommy |
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milly

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| 09/21/2008 7:43 PM |
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| I would use a fixed leash for retraining..but Murry has a retractable leash..I have the horror stories about them but we live in an apartment and he needs space also he is wonderful off leash...he listens very well...I got lucky with him...I just have to watch for wild life not to get him...we had an owl swooping down at him one day.. |
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Milly.....Owned by Murry!!! |
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michelle

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| 09/21/2008 7:51 PM |
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Fixed leash here |
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michelle, mom to Sydney (JRT), Sonic (Rattie), Buddy(Jack-Rat) and Proud mom to Army son, Jordan
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893222 Sydney http://www.dogster.com/dogs/893220 Sonic http://www.dogster.com/dogs/901405 Buddy
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rattytatty

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| 09/21/2008 7:52 PM |
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I'm assuming you are asking about a leash for training/walking purposes? I never walk any of my dogs with anything other than a 4-foot or 6-foot leash... fixed. I do use a 25-30 foot long line for training also... and I prefer this to a retractable leash for giving them more freedom than a short leash does. |
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~Nora~ Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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milly

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| 09/21/2008 7:54 PM |
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| I never thought about the long leash for walking Murry..that is a great idea...Thanks |
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Milly.....Owned by Murry!!! |
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theniffs

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| 09/23/2008 10:59 AM |
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| I tried both. I think im sticking with fixed forever. Too little control with retractable and I gave myself a blood blister. Also seemed harder for pixel to get herself untangled when she got tangled. The leash I have now is actually fairly thick for such a small girl but i really like it. |
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farmergurlyo

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| 09/23/2008 11:42 AM |
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i don't have my puppy yet, but i got both the fixed for walks and training and the retractable for parks that don't have off-leash areas (just leasure time)  |
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Ashley~ mommy to rattie kairi |
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GoldRushKennels

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| 09/23/2008 1:52 PM |
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The retractable leashes are being banned from many towns, they are already banned from most AKC events.. Invest in a good 6 footer and a 3 foot walking leash. We also use 20 foot long lines to excercise where we can't go off lead.. Also get a good collar, Not one of those plastic snap tings, I have seen them just pop. For walking in town we use a Martingale type collar from PETCO tha is half chain and half nylon. When adjusted correctly they can't back out of them. If you must use the snap type, get the one with rings on each side of the snap. You attach the leash to both rings.You want the collar tight so they can't back out of it. |
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Jeff & Janet Gold Rush Kennels - Rat Terriers |
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rattytatty

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| 09/25/2008 11:13 PM |
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| I have yet to see ANYone with a retractable leash at any AKC agility trial I've either been a spectator at or participated in. |
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~Nora~ Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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erniebenernie

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| 09/25/2008 11:57 PM |
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Yikkes, I was going to say I love retractables. Banned doesn't sound good. In my defense, I live in a very rural area that has wide streets with only local traffic. I love how Ernie can walk ahead and I don't have to get tugged along. Yes, Ernie does walk along side of me when I ask him to but he also loves just being a dog and sniffing his way along the road. I retract the leash immediately when a car or pedestrian comes along, which isn't frequently. Do I understand the problems are lack of control in situations that require it the most??? |
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Vicki
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susannasmommy

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| 09/26/2008 3:34 AM |
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I mostly use retractables on Pixie, but I do own fixed for her training, as well. And FYI, I have a wicked scar just above my right foot from a rope burn I got while using a retractable leash It will forever serve as a reminder that I had no business using one on our min pin, LOL. Pixie does well on them. I'd never walk the big pups on one, though. |
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Tabitha www.myspace.com/susannasmommy |
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rattytatty

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| 09/26/2008 7:53 AM |
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There is such a smorgasbord of leads that can be purchased these days. I believe that when choosing a lead, as with choosing a collar, the handler should consider the lead’s uses.
The retractable lead, can offer a dog “freedom” to run on a pleasure walk, but if your dog has a tendency to pull, then the dog will often just go to the end of the lead and continue to pull. They can also be useful at the dog’s elimination time, but the negative aspects (IMO) must be strongly considered. This lead is no substitute for a simple 4' or 6’ lead. If the dog spooks, the lead can easily be pulled out of the handler’s hands, which can in turn increase the dog’s terror factor. If not used carefully, handler’s hands can be burned from the cord or knuckles skinned from the casing. In my opinion, they should never be used in the city and only in areas that if the dog should get loose, would not be in danger. If the cord does get wet, the entire lead must be left out to dry to minimize the chance of rotting. The same freedom of movement that is offered by a flexi can be obtained with a 30’ lead.
The disadvantages are increased danger to the dog if the flexi should be pulled from the handler’s hand, leg injuries from being tangled in the cord, and injuries to the handler.
Bottomline... it's a personal choice, but there's a good reason why you won't see a professional trainer using one. |
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~Nora~ Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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erniebenernie

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| 09/26/2008 8:28 AM |
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| Thanks, great advise. |
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Vicki
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 09/26/2008 9:52 AM |
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| Fixed 4' leash here. Personally, I hate those retractables...useless for training, no control, sometimes they stick (You can't draw the line back up!), etc. |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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Tammie

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| 09/26/2008 10:54 AM |
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I used fixed leashes when I had medium - large sized dogs. But I gotta admit I LOVE the retractable I am now using for Bijou, who weighs approximately 8lbs. I haven't experienced any problems with control or injuries to either myself or my baby girl. She likes the freedom of a 15' lead and I like that I can quickly reel her in when the situation dictates that she be by my side. I would not suggest anyone use a retractable for a dog over 10-15 lbs though. |
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That's my baby girl, Bijou and her little brother Banjo, they are Toy Rat Terriers.
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/749214 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/939035
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GoldRushKennels

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| 09/27/2008 11:16 PM |
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We are around a lot of dogs all the time, from small to very large. Control is the main issue.
I can't tell you how many times we have seen someone with a retractable not paying attention of what their dog is doing.
Same goes for a too long fixed leash. My favorite is a 30" Kangaroo that I still bunch up in my hand. Train them with a good choke type collar, it will help so much when walking in a standard collar later.
This is the collar we use and just love.

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Mitzy's Mom

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| 09/30/2008 2:59 PM |
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| Jeff, where can those collars be purchased or what exactly are they called? I'm interested in buying one. |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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rattytatty

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| 09/30/2008 3:11 PM |
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| I'm not Jeff.. (LOL), but if I'm not mistaken, that's a martindale collar. |
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~Nora~ Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ |
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 09/30/2008 3:23 PM |
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| I thought maybe I could find it under another name. I have a martingale collar but it is all nylon and works itself loose..so loose the dog can lower their head and have it fall off so it's not safe. Will continue looking for the chain version. |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org Pics of my current fosters: http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/caradoc http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
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GoldRushKennels

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| 09/30/2008 10:32 PM |
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Posted By Mitzy's Mom on 09/30/2008 2:59 PM
Jeff, where can those collars be purchased or what exactly are they called? I'm interested in buying one.
They are called a half choke. We get the Costal brand ones at PETCO or PETSMART.
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singingpilgrim

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| 09/30/2008 10:39 PM |
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I'm for fixed... we tried a retractable when they were all the rage in the 90s and found that in order to roll up compactly it is THIN and easy to break. Our frayed and broke. I know lot of people who are against them for other reasons, the most common being that a dog should get used to a certain length and don't learn boundaries with a retractable leash. I don't know about that. We have a four foot, two six foots, and a 20 or 30 foot. I'm not always going to use the same length-- sometimes I want to just go into the yard and let them run free, and sometimes I want to keep them by my side... I'd recommend having a shorter one (up to 6 foot) and a longer one for being in the park or something. You can always gather a longer one if you want them closer. |
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Pamela ~Sophia Abigail's Mom~ Ratbones Rescue Volunteer |
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