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phantasmik


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Newbie
08/21/2008 1:27 PM  

Hello, I am new here I am very excited to come across this community reading some previous posts I feel you guys are very knowledgeable.

I just adopted a 2 year old rat terrier from a sheleter, she was a stray and had a litter of puppies before I adopted her, however she is now spayed. I have a couple of questions, right now I am currently enrolled in obedience classes with her and she is very very smart and learns very quickly. however theres are a couple of things that bother me.

she does not seems to get a long very well with other dogs, she seems to whine a lot and yelp when shes sees other dogs, especially when other dogs are excited. I have heard a lot of mixed things to do about this, such as ignore it... tell them no.. but i'm not really sure what I should do. my girlfriend's parents have a golden retriever and we met up for a walk one day and she growled a little when they met eye to eye, but were soon able to walk side by side without any problem.. though they did not really play together they put up with eachother.

another thing is I have two cats. the cats are not very bold and don't really stand thier ground when they see the dog, and tend to just run away, the dog wants to chase them but with a quick serious "NO" she typically stops in her tracks, we also have been trying to use a spray bottle. we would really like it if she would not be aggressive at all and get over this, but the cats don't want to approach her, so shes never really been able to sniff them and learn that they are more than just furballs than run really fast..

 

anyway sorry about the huge post.. if anyone has any advice it would be very greatly appreciated. thanks a lot =D

-John and my new RT Sophie

rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
08/21/2008 2:05 PM  
All "huge" posts are welcome! (and welcome to the forum, John and Sophie). We hope you'll post pictures soon. BLESS YOU for saving Sophie's life and adopting her into your home.

Yes indeed it would be wonderful if dogs would just "not be aggressive at all and get over this... etc." but alas, it is most often NOT the case. These dogs have very high prey drive and it is their nature to want to chase cats, squirrels, rabbits, etc. It's simply their instinctive nature and they are doing what comes natural for them.

Unfortunately, oftentimes what is natural behavior for a dog is NOT acceptable behavior for us humans. :=)

Therein lies the problem...

Concerning getting along with other dogs... you are smart to allow her to interact with other dogs in neutral territory -- walking the two dogs together as you did is a wonderful way to do it. They become focused on their surroundings instead of each other... and being able to focus the dog on something other than what the dog wants to focus on in the moment, is key to changing the behavior. The squirt bottle of water works well for many dogs... but I'm a firm believer than any negative correction should always be immediately followed with a positive reward. So when you squirt the dog.. and the dog backs off and focuses on ANYthing other than another dog... reward her with a yummy treat... or affection... or whatever works for your particular dog. You may not know what this "whatever works or your particular dog" is yet... since you just adopted her and the two of you are both trying to make the transition into life with each other. So be patient... and consistent with your corrections, and use LOTS of rewards if the dog rewards YOU with a behavior you are looking for.

Concerning the cats... I suspect with time as Sophie becomes more comfortable in her surroundings... this will improve, but in the meantime, be sure you don't leave them alone unsupervised. It's best to lean on the side of caution in the situation with the cats.

Good luck to you !


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
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Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
08/21/2008 2:20 PM  

Hi John!

Welcome to the best Rat Terrier site available!!  As you've probably figured out, Nora's awesome!   


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yogis mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/21/2008 3:22 PM  

Hi John (and Sophie!) Congrats on your new family member! PICS!!!!!!!??????

I also have a  Rattie rescue, Yogi, who is now about 2. Got him 9 mo ago.

I have 2 senior cats and I was very worried about them when I first got him. They are Dog-savvy cats but that actually worried me more. He is VERY prey-driven. (He'll hunt down a moving Leaf!)

I NEVER left them alone together the first few weeks, and I started feeding them treats together...the cat sits and waits for her treat (Temptations, that sorta stuff) and Yogi would sit next to her...gradually they got closer, and more tolerant of one another as they got treats together. I also lavished petting and praise on both at the same time when they sat together...to avoid that "jealousy" stuff! LOL!

Now, months of this later, they are Buds. She even instigates him to chase her sometimes. Funny to watch....

Depending on the cat....the treat thing might not work...plus Yogi always submitted to her as far as her nosing around in his food bowl...he was never agressive towards her, just waaay too "interested".

I think Female terriers sometimes seem more "territorial" about some things....ummmm, perhaps "protective" is a better word !.

LuvMyPoundPup


Ratterific
Ratterific
08/21/2008 7:57 PM  

Hi John and welcome to this site!   You will find great advice here and it definitely helps.  I too have a rescue Rat Terrier named Jasmine.  I also have a cat and at first it seemed like Jasmine would never stop chasing her and we would always have to correct her.  But i assure you that given time they will start to tolerate eachother if not be best friends.  Jasmine now won't sleep unless her cat is cuddling with her at bed time. As everyone else said i wouldn't leave them alone together until they begin to get along.
Again welcome and i can't wait for pictures!

DaisysMom


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08/21/2008 8:10 PM  
Daisy came into our home with two dog-savvy cats. I agree with the others and would work on correcting her and also giving it some time - for both the dog and the cat

Bless you for adopting and I can't wait to see some pics

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
08/22/2008 9:12 AM  
Welcome to the site, John and Sophie. You'll love this place! Lots of great people and great advice, as seen already in this thread.
LadyLes


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/22/2008 9:22 AM  
I just wanted to say welcome...I had the opposite problem. My rescue Mocha was scared to death of my cat. Of course, she was scared of her shadow at first. But now, they are fine together. Good Luck to you and Miss Sophie!

There is nothing better than wine and chocolate!
~Ashley~
singingpilgrim


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/22/2008 4:43 PM  
Hey! Welcome!
You've already gotten great advice, but I wanted to greet you and say that my little rescued rattie is also a Sophie. Of course, technically I've named her Sophia Abigail, but I mainly call her Sophie or Soph-Soph. I only got her a month and a half ago from a shelter myself. She's five.
I hope we get to see pics of your Sophie soon, and also, I want to point out that really, that doesn't sound like she has a problem with other dogs. Sophie gets along with other dogs no problem, but she's the first dog I've ever had that wasn't aggressive when first meeting a strange dog (well, except Zack... he was never aggressive, but no dogs liked him except puppies! It was weird. All the dogs that met him would try to beat him up). From what you're saying your Sophie doesn't sound aggressive at all, she just sounds a little normal-- a warning growl? Nothing to big. At least she's not trying to beat up boxers on sight, like a former dog of mine, Molly, did!!
Anyway, welcome! Where in the country are you? (Or are you in another country.. lol... I forget sometimes that the internet is global. Doh.)

Pamela
~Sophia Abigail's Mom~
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mphillips


Ratterific
Ratterific
09/09/2008 10:25 PM  

Welcome. We didn't even know what a Rat Terrier looked like before we found Cocoa. She has changed our lives and taken over the house. Are you a Dog Whisperer fan on National Geographic? He is my hero. We had to invest in a spray bottle in hopes it would decrease the barking. It works! If we can find it when we need it. Good luck!

tauney4


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
09/09/2008 10:38 PM  
HELLO AND WELCOME FROM TAUNEY AND I (CHRISTI) i cant wait to see pics!!!!
Lucy's Mommy


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
09/09/2008 10:52 PM  
Welcome from a rattie mommy in Florida. When we first got Lucy, she chased our cats, too. Then our cats grew tired of it, ganged up on her one night while she was asleep and now she only chases them when the cats initiate playtime.
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