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swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
03/11/2008 2:22 PM  

Moved for reiavt:

 My loving Rat Terrier is in need of a new home. I have had her (Killer) for almost 5 years now. However, in the last 2 and a half years I have had three children. It breaks my heart to see her moping around the house because I don't have time to give her the attention that she deserves. She does OK with the children but I would prefer for her to be in a home that knows about the needs a rat terrier has and has no children or older children that understand these dogs as well. She is crate trained, house broken and knows a number of tricks. She has been spade. She loves being held and loved on. She hates children that interupt her sun bathing! I feel horrible for doing this. Before I had my first kid she was my baby. I know that giving her up is for her best though. PLEASE HELP!


Sarah



swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
03/11/2008 2:23 PM  

I am wondering why you think she needs no children?? I myself have a 7 yo, 4 yo twins and a 1 year old and I could not ask for a better breed of dog to be with the kids. They snuggle with them, play with them and are great friends. If she was your "baby", then why do you feel the need to re-home her. Don't you think she would be more miserable to loose the only home and mom that she has ever known? Why do you think she is unhappy? Or is it you who is unhappy? I just personally don;t understand how you can just get rid of a dog you've had for 5 years cause she seems "mopey" due to the kids? I am not trying to be harsh, but this is the reason why we have so many dogs in shelters. If she truly meant to you what you say she did, than I don't get the whole "I gotta get rid of her" plea. Can you rethink the whole thing or are you set in stone?
On another note......where are you located and do you have pics?


Sarah



SuzieRedhead


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
03/11/2008 2:25 PM  

Hey Sarah,

Who is and where is this person?  Perhaps Ratbone can offer her our GAP Program.

Not going to go on my tirade of owner surrenders because of kids again...


Sue Carello, Scotia, NY (near Albany)
Ratbone Rescues Fostermom, Northeast State Coordinator and Applications Coordinator and Fundraising Co-Chair
www.ratbonerescues.com

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swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
03/11/2008 2:29 PM  
I don't know Sue, they just posted this under another thread so I moved it so it would be seen.

Sarah



NIckle's Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/11/2008 4:37 PM  
Reiavt if you could post where you are it would be helpful.

Patricia---Nickle and Dime's Mommy





"Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open"
reiavt


Newbie
Newbie
03/11/2008 4:59 PM  

Well, you are being harsh.  I have been in tears all afternoon because I don't want to"get rid" of Killer.  I would never put my dog in a shelter.  That is why I am on this site.  I am doing this for her not for me out of my love for my dog.  When I purchased Killer I was single and living in my own home with a fenced in backyard.  Since then I have moved (no fenced in yard) married and  have had three children in 2.5 years.  My oldest who is 2.5 and they think he may have high functioning autism that makes him act out violently toward people and even Killer when he can catch her. My middle son is almost 18 months and I have a 3 month old.   I think that I am going to go somewhere else this is ridiculas.  I thought I had found a site where I may find a loving home for my Killer instead I found a lynch mob.  One more thing, how do you switch from your a terrible person to by the way do you have any pics.

malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/11/2008 5:12 PM  
Posted By reiavt on 03/11/2008 4:59 PM

Well, you are being harsh.  I have been in tears all afternoon because I don't want to"get rid" of Killer.  I would never put my dog in a shelter.  That is why I am on this site.  I am doing this for her not for me out of my love for my dog.  When I purchased Killer I was single and living in my own home with a fenced in backyard.  Since then I have moved (no fenced in yard) married and  have had three children in 2.5 years.  My oldest who is 2.5 and they think he may have high functioning autism that makes him act out violently toward people and even Killer when he can catch her. My middle son is almost 18 months and I have a 3 month old.   I think that I am going to go somewhere else this is ridiculas.  I thought I had found a site where I may find a loving home for my Killer instead I found a lynch mob.  One more thing, how do you switch from your a terrible person to by the way do you have any pics.



A couple of things...It may have sounded harsh, but I think she was trying the "snap out of it" moment - a la Moonstruck....

I think most of the regular posters here would be anxious to assist you in getting through this "mopey" period with your dog because they want your dog and you to be happy together.  You have invested five years of love into your dog.  I'm sure the situation with your son is very stressful, and seeing Killer be "mopey" is heartbreaking. 

Have you considered setting aside some special time for just the two of you?  I am a mom too, so I do know that it is hard to juggle life and parenthood, and a dog or two - so please, give Killer a chance - even just a few moments of mommy kisses.  I am sure the kisses will make you both feel better....

~rachel

 


~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
NIckle's Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/11/2008 5:29 PM  
Reiavt if you are still interested in giving Killer a new home cause you feel that is your best option please email me your location and information I would gladly help you.

Patricia---Nickle and Dime's Mommy





"Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open"
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
03/11/2008 6:07 PM  
I apologizee if it sounded harsh, I do. But you also have to read what you wrote from another point of view. Your words contadict themselves and we have so many people rehome their ratties for crazy reasons. We are here to help and will do our best if you have no other option. Ratbones rescue is also there to help if you need. Too many people get rid of dogs because they've had kids, as if they cannot co-exist. Please reconsider accepting whatever help can be given to you here. Again, I apologize if I upset you more, my tone looked more harsh than it was meant.

Sarah



reiavt


Newbie
Newbie
03/11/2008 6:39 PM  
No I don't believe I made any contridictions. I love my dog that is why I am sacrificing my desires(to keep her) for her need to be with a family that can better suit her needs. I don't think anyone who is coming to this site to find another home for their dog has any intention of abandoning them. If they wanted to do that they would make it easy on themselves and drive to a shelter. I shouldn't have to get on here and give you my life story tell you about my inabilities or my kids. That is personal information. All I was trying to do is find a home for Killler with someone that can take better care of her than I can. All I was asking of this site was help, not a snap judgment based on your misinformed ideas of who I am.
malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/11/2008 6:50 PM  
Posted By reiavt on 03/11/2008 6:39 PM
No I don't believe I made any contridictions. I love my dog that is why I am sacrificing my desires(to keep her) for her need to be with a family that can better suit her needs. I don't think anyone who is coming to this site to find another home for their dog has any intention of abandoning them. If they wanted to do that they would make it easy on themselves and drive to a shelter. I shouldn't have to get on here and give you my life story tell you about my inabilities or my kids. That is personal information. All I was trying to do is find a home for Killler with someone that can take better care of her than I can. All I was asking of this site was help, not a snap judgment based on your misinformed ideas of who I am.

 

Please don't take it personally.  Sarah really was trying to help. 

Again, I understand that the situation with your son makes this even more difficult, and if you feel you need to find Killer a new home, I am sure there are individuals here to help you....

 

 


~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
winnihoohoo


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/11/2008 6:53 PM  
You are kidding, Right? Rat terriers are the best dog for kids! She is 5 years old...she is not a puppy anymore...of course she has slowed down. She is a young adult. Please do not take her away from the only family she has ever known. I am sure every time you had a new baby, you told her to not touch, so to reward her for being a loyal canine to your kids, you want to get rid of her! I have 4 ratties, and had four kids. My youngest son Josh passed away last September at 16 yrs old, after being sick for 8 yrs. My doggies have helped me with my grief more than any person ever has. I have three other kids, 18 yr old Bridget, 20 yr old Jason, and 23 yr old Justin, who is in the Navy, in the Persian gulf right now. Don't feel guilty for not giving her enough attention. Feel guilty for wanting to get rid of her! They can live to be 20 yrs old. So when your kids are teenagers out with their friends, guess who will be sleeping on the couch with you waiting for them to come home at 2 am....
Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/11/2008 7:00 PM  

Well said Donna, very well said.


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treble02


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
03/11/2008 7:05 PM  
My only thought that I will share is:
I wonder if moving to a new home will be worse for her in the long run than not getting as much attention as she used to. She has "transitioned" WITH you, gradually with each child. I would tend to think that a new hoek would be more traumatic than being with the same family and a little less attention. Sometimes I have to think in "options" Although neither is PERFECT (nothing is) which would benefit/traumatize the dog most?

~ Mary, Trixi and Toa's Mommy
Ratbone Rescues Foster Mommy
malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/11/2008 7:09 PM  
Posted By treble02 on 03/11/2008 7:05 PM
My only thought that I will share is:
I wonder if moving to a new home will be worse for her in the long run than not getting as much attention as she used to. She has "transitioned" WITH you, gradually with each child. I would tend to think that a new hoek would be more traumatic than being with the same family and a little less attention. Sometimes I have to think in "options" Although neither is PERFECT (nothing is) which would benefit/traumatize the dog most?



This is a very good point.

 


~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
03/11/2008 7:15 PM  
Reiavt: (assuming you come back and read this) If you have determined with all certainty that Killer must be rehomed, then please let someone know where (in general for now will do) you are located so we can get an idea of who can help. And please read the thread under the Rescue Forum about Rehoming Your Rattie...it's "pinned" near or at the top of the list. A fabulous group called Ratbones Rescues can likely assist you, and they have a Guardian Assistance Program where Killer would stay with you while they posted his information on their site and got the word out to their volunteers that he needs rehomed. This saves space in their fosterhomes for dogs who have to be pulled from kill shelters ASAP, so if it's at all possible for your situation, that would be great. The contact information is listed in the thread and as well on their website (www.ratbonerescues.com).

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

The Animal Rescue Site


malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/11/2008 7:16 PM  

Let's all take a step back and breathe.

The original post is from a woman who seems to be at her wit's end with three kids under the age of 4, and a dog that she feels she is not able to care for the way she used to.

To all the moms out there, don't you remember what it was like to want to pull your hair out and even the slightest thing aggravated the living hell out of you?  Please remember that feeling, and if you have been there, imagine having three kids that young who all need your attention at once.  Add to that the stresses the OP has with the reality of an autistic child.

Now, this poor dog may not be getting the attention the owner feels it needs.  Let's be glad that she is seeking help, rather than neglecting her dog.  We all know how we feel about our dogs, but we should not judge lest we walk a mile in her shoes.  She may be having a really difficult time right now, and getting rid of her dog is probably the last thing she ever thought she would do, but in her mind, it is the best option.

Can we try to help her? 

I know there have been people who have posted about rehoming, and have captured our hearts with their tales.  Let's please have some compassion for her.  She has a very hard line to toe and deserves our empathy if not sympathy and assistance.

~rachel

 


~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
winnihoohoo


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
03/11/2008 7:19 PM  

k....

Amy


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
03/11/2008 7:22 PM  


thecunninghams5.shutterfly.com
DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
03/11/2008 7:36 PM  

Guys: You know I love you all and I understand the frustration. I do, but this was my original post in the Please Post Here If You Have to Give Up Your Rat Terrier (or whatever the title is):

This post is for those who may be visiting our site because you have found, for whatever reason(s), that you need to consider giving up your rat terrier:

Please, on behalf of all of our members, we BEG you to register here and post about your rattie!!! While we may suggest alternatives like training to help you to be able to keep your rattie in your family, what we want most of all is for you to know that if you decide that your rattie can no longer be a part of your family, that everyone here will reach out a hand and do our absolute best to see to it that your rattie is NOT taken to a kill shelter.

We have members all over the United States, and in Canada as well. We have many members who belong to a fantastic rescue group known as Ratbone Rescues ( www.ratbonerescues.com ). PLEASE visit their site and contact them, but do post here as well.

We recognize that this fabulous breed is not for everyone and that sometimes extreme extenuating circumstances arise that are beyond our control. Whatever the reason, it is IMPERATIVE that the dog not be taken to a "pound" where they will undoubtedly likely be "put to sleep". Rat terriers, even very cute, young ones, do NOT "show" well in typical shelters in cages. They are often reported as cowering in the corner of their cage and becoming depressed and fearful. Please do not do this to your dog. Somone, somewhere is waiting to provide him or her with a great forever home where they will be loved and provided for in the way that they deserve!

I probably shouldn't speak for us "as a whole" and I try not to do it much. But I feel like I created that thread so that visitors looking for help would feel like they would find it here. Because a rattie in need of a new home has the best chance if we all know about it. You all know that. There isn't anywhere else "online" that they can go to that will give them as many options as we can. At least that's how I feel and that's one of the reasons I started the thread originally.

There are always going to be things we don't understand and can't fathom, but sometimes they just are what they are, and all we can do is what we can and that is finding the best possible home for a dog that needs it.

As always, this is with much love

 


Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

The Animal Rescue Site


malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
03/11/2008 7:42 PM  
Thank you Tracey.

~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
NIckle's Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
03/13/2008 10:49 AM  
Has anyone heard from riavt about Killer?

Patricia---Nickle and Dime's Mommy





"Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open"
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
03/13/2008 11:10 AM  
Posted By reiavt on 03/11/2008 4:59 PM

Well, you are being harsh.  I have been in tears all afternoon because I don't want to"get rid" of Killer.  I would never put my dog in a shelter.  That is why I am on this site.  I am doing this for her not for me out of my love for my dog.  When I purchased Killer I was single and living in my own home with a fenced in backyard.  Since then I have moved (no fenced in yard) married and  have had three children in 2.5 years.  My oldest who is 2.5 and they think he may have high functioning autism that makes him act out violently toward people and even Killer when he can catch her. My middle son is almost 18 months and I have a 3 month old.   I think that I am going to go somewhere else this is ridiculas.  I thought I had found a site where I may find a loving home for my Killer instead I found a lynch mob.  One more thing, how do you switch from your a terrible person to by the way do you have any pics.



Well, that settles it for me.  Please accept whatever help members offer and consider contacting Ratbones to get her/him into their foster home program.

Your first post (without the additional information) made it sound like you got this rattie, then you added children and decided you didn't want her anymore.  Since you have explained further I totally understand your position.  Please stick around and we will try to help you find a new home for your rat terrier.


Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
reiavt


Newbie
Newbie
05/03/2008 8:10 PM  
Its me again. I was quite upset the last time I posted on this site. We tried to make it work with killer but she has started biting my boys. She is very sweet with older children but right now it is best for everyone if she is moved to a home without children! We live in Wichita, Ks. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. I don't want to send her to a pound because she is a sweet dog and I understand how hard it is for rat terriors to get placed in homes. She needs a good home with people that understand how rat terriors behave. They take a special kind of owner as I am sure that y'all know.
gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
05/03/2008 8:21 PM  
Hi. I'm sorry it's not working out with your dog but you certainly can't have her biting your boys. Did you try to get a trainer in to help teach you management (and her better behavior)? Just curious. I would strongly suggest you contact Ratbone to see about getting her placed in foster care if you decide to give her up. www.ratbonerescues.org is the site.

gwacie (Bethany)
http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
kp_in_scott


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/03/2008 8:34 PM  
Thank you for coming back to the site. I am too far to be of any use in this case, but there are folks closer that may be able to get Killer into the RatBoneRescue foster program. Again, I'm not with RatBoneRescue, so not much help, but I'm sure someone will be contacting you shortly!

Kim, owned by one sweet Rattie and a house full of parrots
Katie'sMom


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
05/03/2008 8:56 PM  
I'm glad you came back and I hope you will contact Ratbone Rescues for help. I have said before that sometimes giving up someone or something you love is the ultimate sacrifice and act of love. I'm sure no one meant to sound harsh and often things posted do come across exactly how intended. I know that from first hand experience. I hope the best for you and Killer and my heart goes out to you. Please do contact RR -- they are an awesome group of people. And, please check back with us and let us know how things are going.

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malta blue


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/04/2008 3:09 PM  

I give you many many kudos for trying to make it work and for returning to R-T for assistance.

I hope that the ratbone foster moms here see your post and can offer some assistance.  Please, please don't take Killer to a pound - if you tell them about the biting it will be a death sentence.  

Perhaps you can go to the ratbone website and contact them through there.

~rachel

 


~rachel

"Never separate the life you live from the words you
speak" ~ Paul Wellstone.
Mitzy's Mom


Alpha Feist
Alpha Feist
05/04/2008 3:34 PM  
Yes, please contact Ratbones directly, with owner surrenders the owner must contact Ratbones. Also, there is a program RBR has called the GAP program where you can foster her yourself until Ratbones finds a home for her. This might be a good option for you. Please contact RBR for more info.

There is also another rat terrier rescue....can't remember what's called so somebody help me out here...Rat Res Q or something? Wendy in California is a foster mom for this group....

Mary Beth, mom to Mitzy, Mayfly, Skipper, Skeeter and Loco

RBR Foster Mom
www.ratbonerescues.com
dnorton


Obsessed
Obsessed
05/05/2008 10:16 AM  

She looks like a beautiful dog!  If we can get her to Georgia, I'll take her.


Mimzy's Mom
RatBones Rescue Foster Mom
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