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Brandi

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| 05/08/2008 11:59 AM |
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Hello all! My name is Brandi, I just joined this site, and I have Chloe, a 6 month old black and white doll baby. I have had her since she was 8 weeks old. She is a great dog and always keeps me in stitches. The problem is, sometimes when she is approached by me or my Boyfriend, she will sometimes squat and pee. We are not talking a little tinkle, she will just relieve herself. She has never been hit, or smacked, we dont even yell at her. We have had her vet checked and she has a clean bill of health. She is my first Rattie, and I was wondering if it was just a Rat Terrier thing? We were told even though they are a small breed that they were not the "nervous type" of little dog. Just wondering if any one had any advice or experience with this problem?
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Mitzy's Mom

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| 05/08/2008 12:05 PM |
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Welcome! Sounds like either excited or submissive peeing, puppies often outgrow this. When you approach do so in a very "matter of fact" way, not excited or talking in baby talk, etc. which can make them more excited. It's not a rat terrier thing, most do not do this but a few will, including those with no history of abuse. I think it's more common in small dogs but not sure...none of mine have ever done it (large or small). |
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Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids
Georgia Foster Mom, New Rattitude Check out our ratties at www.newrattitude.org |
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Apollo's Mommy

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| 05/08/2008 12:17 PM |
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Welcome!
I have three ratties. Apollo and Indie are my boys and Emma is my girl. From MY PERSONAL experince it sounds like what MB described... an excited or submissive peeing. Apollo is 17 lbs and Indie is 13 and they have never had this problem. But my little Emma is a Toy rattie and when she was smaller and her daddy would come home from work, she would be sooooo excited that she'd pee the minute she saw him walk through the door. ( LOL!!! ) He wouldn't even have to be walking up to her, she would just see him walk through the door! But as time has passed she has learned to "control" her excitement. She turned a year old on March 1st and actually hasn't had an "accident" in a while. I really can't remember the last time she had one. So hopefully your little pups excitement/submissive peeing will cease as she gets older. |
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"You can't fix stupid." - Ron White
~ Jolene ~ Mommy to Apollo, Emma, & Indie
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talatzkomom

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| 05/08/2008 12:28 PM |
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yep! Id agree too! you might just buy her some little pants to ware for a while...its kind of like little girls going to kindergarten it too will pass! you can get the cuteist little ruffly things ones on line ,its a good idea they don't like to wet there little pants JUst like little girls... |
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Da'Boys! L'Caesar,Cash-Man,Polo,& ShamusO'Reiley Black N White Rules! |
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swatson6

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| 05/08/2008 12:47 PM |
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| Welcome to the site! You;ve gotten great advice, I just want to add that you should never make a big deal out of it or you could actually make it worse. You would be best to just act like it didn't happen and just clean it up. You might want to try to get to her level also when you approach her. There is a great thread on this topic too, I will try to find it for you. |
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Sarah Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan
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Brandi

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| 05/08/2008 12:54 PM |
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Thanks for all the replies! I'm really glad that I found this site!  |
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swatson6

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| 05/08/2008 1:00 PM |
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Maybe someone can help find the thread, I can't seem to find it, but here is something Tracey posted about submissive urination: We recently had a discussion on excitement urination which is similar. Here is some information about submissive urination: SUBMISSIVE URINATION Submissive urination is NOT a house-training problem. It is exhibited during greetings, either because the dog instinctively feels a need to show submission, or when the dog loses control due to being excited. Submissive urination or "Happy Bladder" is not a willful behavior, and punishment can make it worse. Many dogs outgrow submissive urination by about a year of age if you don't make a fuss. Meanwhile, here are some things you can do. First of all, take your dog for a physical check to make sure there is not a bladder infection. Don't raise your voice or scold your dog for peeing. This will make the problem worse. If the submissive urination happens when you come home, try to make your homecoming low key. When you come in, do not greet the dog right away and do not make eye contact. Wait until the dog calms down. You can let the dog outside in a matter of fact way without any fuss. Or, greet the dog outside to avoid a puddle indoors. If you do have to clean up a puddle, do it calmly without fussing. When petting the dog, use a gentle scratch on the chest instead of patting on the head. Try not to lean over the dog. If your dog is a bit timid, allow the dog to approach you, rather than your making the first overture, so that the dog's safety zone is allowed to remain intact -- advise any guests to do the same. Kneel or sit down so you are on his level, turn your head away from the dog, and let him approach you. If your dog is overwhelmed by guests, make sure he has a comfortable place to retreat to, such as a crate. For now, avoid direct eye contact. In dog language, eye contact can be threatening. You can teach your dog to accept and welcome friendly eye contact later. Do not over-stimulate or push the dog too far to fast. Let the dog regulate how close he can get to other people, places and things. If your dog continues to have this problem, you need to practice some confidence building and trust building exercises. Rewarding calm behavior goes a long way too. |
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Sarah Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan
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chris

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| 05/08/2008 1:18 PM |
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welcome and harley used to get so excited when he first seen me he would leak alittle pee pee out as well as bernie used to they out grew it ............ mine are both fixed now and i haven't had them do it since that was done............. |
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cartman

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| 05/08/2008 2:05 PM |
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| Hi, I just joined today, and don't have a pic of our Rosco, so will add it later. We got our Rat when he was 4 mos. and spent his life in a cage, so he learned to toliet in his cage. It didn't take long for him to recognize going outside was what works. He still makes a mistake and I agree with don't fuss. He knows he's done wrong and he truly is like a child who wets the bed. Clean up, sit in the corner & learn from the mistake. Love is the most important thing. He is like a child and part of the family. Just anticipate the problems. Make sure they are offered outside time freq. and the minute you get home, outside comes 1st. I love the way RatTerriers pose. They are natural RCA models. Enjoy your beloved pet. |
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Noodles n Me

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| 05/08/2008 2:13 PM |
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Welcome to you both Newbies and your rats. |
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There is no joy greater than being owned by a Rattie!! cat |
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Erinj09

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| 05/09/2008 11:44 PM |
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i babysat my moms friends dog a few times when she was a puppy and she absolutly loved me, and of course i returned the feeling and still to this day if i go to her house she goes nuts and pees a little because she cant hold in her excitment. i see it as a complement really, and just try and greet her outside because i know it is coming lol ~Erin |
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Proud owner of a rat terrier resides here. Kahlua is my new puppy,Olive is my kitty-kat, Oh and 3 fish (Bonnie, Indiana Jones, and Rafiki) lol I love my animals hehe
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" |
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rattagan's mom

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| 05/10/2008 8:11 AM |
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My little six month old Cameo will excitapee. She did the day I came back home from my home town in NC or when her daddy comes home. It is lessening as she grows. So what I did was when I first get home, even if I'm only gone an hour or so I will come in an immediately take them outside. Play with with Cammie and Ratty and if she pottys outside she gets praised and a treat. If she has a boo boo in the house no big deal, I just take her outside for a few minutes say "potty outside" and clean it up. Cameo is outgrowing this little difficulty, I think yours will too. Just don't show excitement when you first see her, take her out right away, then after she potty's is the time to play and talk to her. I wish you well. I want to say Welcome to the Newbies here. We all love our Ratties so this is a great place. |
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Janie, Ratty,Cameo,Cutter and Nala Belle's Mom
Show your furbaby how much you love them brush their teeth today! It saves them pain "tomorrow." Janie L. |
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GrafixGurl

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| 05/10/2008 8:51 AM |
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Bunny does this too... I can't help but think it is more of a female thing than male as I personally have never had a male do this.
We can read the signs when she is going to submit during a greating and the best thing I have found to snap her out of it is to great her with a ball. When I see her squatting I bounce the ball and it diverts her attention immediately into ball mode. The other thing we try to do when we don't have a ball in hand is to ignore the dogs. Happy Pee occurs during an excited greeting so if you just come inside, let the dogs out and not great them other than "Hi Dogs" and walk off as if its all cool... No submissive pee. .. Then later when all is calm greetings go normally.
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Katie'sMom

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| 05/10/2008 8:55 AM |
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You've gotten great advice so I'm just gonna say: Welcome to the site. Your girl is just lovely! |
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Amy

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| 05/10/2008 9:09 AM |
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Hi there and welcome! Wow, I had completely forgotten til I read this that Yaz did this as a pup. As soon as we would walk through the door, w/o even speaking a word to her, she would squat and pee. I had to be REALLY quick to get in the door, grab her, and get her outside. Once she peed outside I'd give LOTS of praise. She actually had more trouble with this than with regular potty training. That was easy with her. But anyway, point being, as everyone else has said, they outgrow it. |
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Bailey's mom

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| 05/10/2008 9:42 AM |
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| You gotten a lot of good advice so I'm just saying Welcome to our group. Your Chloe is just beautiful...I love your avatar picture. |
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~Nancy~ aka Bailey's Mom |
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tford6

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| 05/10/2008 11:34 AM |
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Terri- mom to Abby Bella and Chloe the girls |
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kp_in_scott

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| 05/10/2008 1:13 PM |
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| Welcome Brandi and Chloe! She is a beautiful dog! |
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Kim, owned by one sweet Rattie mix and one sweet Toy Rattie and a house full of parrots |
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