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Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 12:47 PM  

I want to train Daxter a basic command like Come, Sit, etc but the problem is he doesn't show any interest on treats. Usually after his walk he just jumps right back in on his bed and sleeps the whole day until I come home. He only wake up and come to me when he hear the key jingle and I take the leash to go for a walk. Other than that he never wants to come if I call him in the house to come to me.

When I offer a treat and ask him to sit, he jumps up instead of seating down even if I put the treat close up to his nose.

Any ideas how to make training more fun and interesting for him? Thanks!


Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/20/2008 12:51 PM  

Have you ever considered "clicker" training. I use this with both my dogs and they pick up the commands so fast with it. There are some great web sites out there about it and it only costs you the clicker which is no more than $5.00. I personally like Karen Pryor a lot. Here is a great site:

http://www.clickertraining.com/

And for fun you can do shaping exercises and this really can build a dog;s confidence. Both my dogs learned sit in their first clicker experience. I hope you have the same luck should you choose this route, it will teach your dog he needs to do a specific action to get a reward.

Good Luck!!


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 12:59 PM  
I've heard about that clicker training, I will check it out and might try it on Daxter, hopefully it will work out. So if you use the clicker you don't give treat? And they just do what you ask them to do everytime they hear the click? Or you click after they do what you ask them? Sorry I have no clue.

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/20/2008 2:18 PM  

That's ok, here is how it goes. First you want to charge the clicker. So you *click *treat like 10 times in a row. The dog will get the idea that a click means something good. To charge the clicker use something yummy like a hot dog. Then what you want to do after the clicker is charged is then move to the desired behavior..... so for a sit.  Put your dog in front of you if he is standing *NO click. Move the treat toward his nose and kind of high in the air so it will get his butt to go to the floor. The second his butt hits the floor *click *treat. Kind of get the idea. Look on the web also there is a wealth of knowledge


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 2:24 PM  
Got it. Thanks Alice. I am ordering the clicker today and I let you know the progress when I start training him.

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/20/2008 2:30 PM  

Good Luck, different things work for different people. I personally found I got the best results with a clicker, they knew what I wanted of them. And don't forget you can click even if they start to do the desired behavior too, I say read as much as you can, it is fairly easy. Keep us posted!!


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
05/20/2008 2:38 PM  
Clicker training works well ...
Have you used various types of treats? Have you tried chicken or stringed cheese or bits of hotdog? Dogs prefer those types of high-value rewards rather than commercial treats. It's worth a shot if you haven't tried already.
The idea is to make what you have worth more to the dog than what the dog prefers to do.
Try different types of rewards (sometimes it's a toy!) and learn what your dog responds best to.

~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 3:09 PM  
He likes hot dog, cheese string & salmon strips but when I ask him to sit, instead of sitting, he jump up and when I try to push his tush down he try to avoid me and run away. Could be he still scared of me since I only have him for over 2 weeks? He doesn't interested in toys either or bones. He ate the bones only when there is other dogs there, same thing with dog treats like the biscuit. Should I wait for a few more weeks before start training him until he gets really comfortable with me?
He doesn't play with other dog either when my friend's dog come over. Is this normal?

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/20/2008 3:25 PM  

I thought this may help:

While the dog is standing show and hold the treat close to the dog's nose and then move it just above its head while moving the treat slowly backwards. The dog should naturally get into the sit position by bending its legs. As its legs are bending say 'sit'. The very second the dog sits, give it the reward and enthusiastically say 'Good dog!' and give the dog a petting. If the dog does the wrong thing don't give any reward and don't fret, just try again. Keep this up over time until the dog has mastered the exercise. Then continue the training varying the levels of distraction. Slowly decrease the food rewards and substitute them with enthusiastic 'Good dog!' praisings and/or pettings.

Additional teaching your dog to sit tips:

- Try this technique before the dog's mealtime so it is hungry and eager to work for the reward.
- In order to avoid confusion, always use the EXACT same command AFTER the dog's name (e.g. Rover, 'sit' not Rover, 'sit down')
- Never fumble around looking for the reward after the dog sits. Have it ready!
- Be patient and never get angry. Dogs pick up on these feelings and won't want to practice with you if it's not fun.
- It's best NOT to push the dog's bum to the floor with your hands if you are having trouble. The dog might well associate this with the actual training and wait for you to push its bum down in the future. If you are having trouble with this technique then an obedience class with other dogs is a great idea.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/20/2008 4:20 PM  
Great tips, I will try it tonight, see if he sit

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/20/2008 4:34 PM  

good luck!!


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/21/2008 11:32 AM  
I tried the trick that Alice suggested to make Daxter sit last night, he almost did it a few times, until at some point he did sit, I forgot to say SIT, I guess I am too excited see him finally sit, LOL.
I will try again tonight and keep practicing until he gets it.

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/21/2008 11:39 AM  

Yah for Daxter!!  Did you click or just verbal praise!!  Once he learns it you will be so happy.

Whenever my dogs hear the pantry door squeak (where their treats are) they come flying in and sit right in front, If I want something other than a sit that's to bad, they come and sit right  away LOL.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/21/2008 11:53 AM  
I just verbal praise, hasn't got the clicker yet, maybe this weekend I swing by at Petsmart to get one.
I also teach him not to bark and growl at people when we are walking by distracting him with a treat. so far so good

Monica & Daxter
alice4512


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
05/21/2008 11:58 AM  

that's awesome, You can totally train without a clicker. If your dog is having a hard time a clicker marks exactly what you want and can help a dog understand. Once Daxter learns his sit you will have to get a pic!!


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
05/21/2008 12:24 PM  
You can also teach your dog to sit.. or lay down... or roll over... (or most any other command) through hand signals. Hand signals are easy to teach your dog. You transmit body language that the dog reads NOW (immediately). Hand signals simply are giving these body signals in a very deliberate way. It is a nice change for the dog. It gives the dog another connection to understand what you want. And it prevents boredom for the dog.


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
Daxter


Ratastic
Ratastic
05/21/2008 12:33 PM  
Thanks Nora, I will try that too. Is that a universal language for hand signal or you just develop your own?

Monica & Daxter
rattytatty


Training Moderator
Training Moderator
05/21/2008 12:38 PM  
You can use your own... whatever works for you.
I use hand signals with Bailey, but taught verbal commands first. I think doing it that way helped him make the transition to hand signals. Then eventually, I did away with the verbal commands totally.

Here's a link that might help you.

http://www.longliveyourdog.com/lifestage/lifeadult/lifeadultbehavior/TeachingHandSignals.aspx


~Nora~
Mom to Hoss, Lil'Bit, Buster & Bailey, CGC, OA, OAJ
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