So, I've been dealing with this for a while, but just wondering if there are any good ideas out there.  Schatzi is a "submissive pee-er".  Whenever we try to punish her for doing anything naughty, she will squat and pee.  (She does this when we come home too, but we just let her out front to greet her...)  It makes punishing her hard.  You can yell at her when you catch her in the act, but you know she will be leaving a little mess for you to clean up later.  I take her into the kitchen sometimes and yell at her in there because it's easy to clean up there.  But I feel like it's less effective to do that. 

It just seems like I can't really punish her when I catch her doing something.  Anyone else deal with this, and how?  Ideas???

Sorry, Chrys. I don't have the answer. I just didn't want you to think the thread was being ignored. Nora will be here sooner or later to help out. Or maybe some one else that has dealt with this. Be patient!

awww dont yell at her she is probbly scared try talking in a deeper tone

um, I think you misunderstood (or I didn't explain that well!).  We aren't "yellers" but when she does something like jump up and snatch a pretzel from my hand - I reprimand her! Or when she is attempting to kill the cat - yes, we yell at her.  It stops her.  We certainly don't yell at her often or for no reason.  I was merely pointing out that Loco (who is a whippet BTW and is rather neurotic) is extremely submissive, too.

Oh, and of course I understand about the deeper tone but again the typed words leave a lot out....Loco gets very submissive from that the same as yelling. 

I'm misusing the word "yell", too.  Schatzi acts like the Border Collie Susan talks about.  It's when you're trying to reprimand Schatzi.  We don't yell in our house- Rowdy gets very upset and scared by it.  We have reason to believe he may have come from a prior semi-abusive (his shelter paperwork uses the word strict) household.  Schatzi doesn't seem to have any of the behaviors from an abusive house.  She's not scared of us or anything like that.  It's just that when you catch her doing anything naughty and reprimand her she will pee.  (Two seconds later she's wagging her tail dancing around- trust me, she's not scared...)  The most recent situations are things she's done wrong.  In general, she is a well-behaved, albeit stubborn sometimes, dog.  I'll fill you in on the situations...

Yesterday I took Rowdy out for a quick run- usually appx 20 mins.  Sam and Schatzi are usually fine just loose in the house during this short period of time.  I leave them like this several times a week.  Yesterday, however, I forgot to put some bread away and Schatzi's treat bag was out on the counter in it's normal spot.  When I got home, the bread was gone and the wrapping was on the floor and same with Schatzi's treats.  Now, I should have put the bread away....  But both dogs also knew they were in the wrong.  As soon as I stepped in the front door, Sam slinked by me and went upstairs, tail tucked.  That was the first clue they had done something wrong.  (Sam pretty much punishes herself...she knows when she's naughty.)  But Schatzi happily followed me into the kitchen.  As soon as I saw the wrappings on the floor, I simply said, "Schatzi...." and she pees.  Peed buckets because she still hadn't been out for the morning so I got a full bladderload.

Today I was letting Sam inside from the front yard and the neighbor had his dogs out.  Schatzi KNOWS she is not supposed to, but she pushed by me and ran out to his dogs.  Nothing bad happened, but she knows she's not to be running out into the front yard without permission.  Usually she will look at you for the OK before going out the front door.  I ran out and brought her back in and then when I scolded her, she started to squat and pee.  I had to interrupt my scolding to take her into the kitchen and then continue.  I'm not actually yelling at her.  But any type of discipline will start the peeing.  It's exactly what I called it- "submissive peeing". 

I guess at least I know she submits....

i didnt mean that you where mean sorry if it came off that way my katie used to pee like that also and ive had her since a puppy so really i just changed my tone and when i started useing the new tone she had to get use to it and no it meant she was in trouble but she also stoped peeing thank god i even ripped up the carpet in my living room and put in tile lol!