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Fuji's mom


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
12/18/2007 4:54 PM  

Fuji is allowed on the sofa with us to cuddle. However, he has taken up jumping from couch to couch like they are trampolines when he  is excited. We enjoy cuddling with him on the couch, but the jumping needs to stop. Any suggestions? I was thining about spraying him with water when he does that.


Nydia

"Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired."
-- Mother Theresa
Shadows Mom


Ratastic
Ratastic
12/18/2007 4:58 PM  
Just my opinion, I think this may be hard. I say that because you let him on the couch to cuddle, but he can't jump. How can he tell the difference? You have to do one or the other. I can't wait to see the other input as this is just my opinion... I'll see what the others say...

Shadow's Mom

Laugh, dance and drink like nobody's watching cause life is too short.
buttonbutt


Newbie
Newbie
12/19/2007 6:32 AM  
I concur. If you let them on the furniture, they don't know they only get to be up there "calmly". They don't know how to turn off excitement in this location. Mine are allowed on the sofas as they are leather and the girls can't hurt them. Only one of mine, Button, likes to jump up on the sofa back behind someone's head. We WON'T let her! We verbally correct her and pull her down. Personally, with her, I think it's an assertive/alpha thing and not excitement that makes her do it. Which is precisely why we won't let her do it. At 4 years of age, she is getting to where she rarely ever does it, thank goodness. She knows she is definitely not alpha in this pack! LOL
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
12/19/2007 8:00 AM  
I agree with the others, you allow him up there sometimes so he can't tell the difference.
My couch is covered and I allow the dogs up there so I don't worry about it.

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
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http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
alice4512


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
12/19/2007 8:17 AM  

I could only imagine trying to teach this to our dogs. Our couches are merely part of their race track.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
12/19/2007 8:18 AM  
Posted By alice4512 on 12/19/2007 8:17 AM

I could only imagine trying to teach this to our dogs. Our couches are merely part of their race track.


I know - I had the same thought about trying to teach our 4 not to get on THEIR couch!


Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

Georgia Foster Mom, www.newrattitude.org
Pics of my current fosters:
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http://imageevent.com/newrattitude/fiona
alice4512


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
12/19/2007 8:23 AM  

You should see them, they start in one room and leap from the chair and run the length of the couch hurdle an end table to get to the other couch run that then under the dining room table the up the stairs (I can only hear them at this point so I don't really know the pattern up there) then down the stairs and all over again. One is usually in hot pursuit of the other. The only thing that could possible make them stop is the squeak of the pantry door where the treats are. I swear if those dogs ever ran away the squeak of the pantry door could bring them back from even China.


The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too

~Mom to my good boy Fred and my crazy girl Alice~
Proud applications coordinator for Ratbone Rescue
Fuji's mom


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
12/19/2007 8:36 AM  

Well, it must be a rattie thing Fuji loves hanging out with us on the sofa and just jumps from one to the other when he is excited. He also likes to sit or lay across the backrest. I saw some pictures of other ratties doing that and had to show them to my family Right now we just keep his nails nicely trimmed so my leather doesn't get all scratched up and ask him to get down when he starts jumping. He does obey the command (for about 5 min. and then will jump up again from one to the next) I imagine if we do get another rattie it will only get worse


Nydia

"Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired."
-- Mother Theresa
rattytatty


Newbie
Newbie
12/19/2007 8:46 AM  
I'm sorry, but I'm laughing here, and I usually take training issues very seriously! But I can envision this happening, because it happens in my home also! I KNOW very well what "turbo time" looks like !

I don't know of any dog trainer who would advocate allowing your dogs on your furniture. When I'm training another person's dog, this is always one of the things I ask. For me... I like my dogs on the couch with me, so I have never trained them not to get on my furniture. But that is a double-edged sword, because if I take them to someone else's house who doesn't want them on the furniture, how will they know not to do so? There is NO way to train a dog to differentiate between a couch at your house and a couch at someone else's house. To them... furniture is furniture.

So if the individuals don't want them on the furniture, I train them not to get on the furniture... pure and simple.

Now... my solution in my own personal situation is..... I have a dog bed (flat... fleece...) (or you can use a blanket... but it must be something the dog identifies as "his"). In training, this bed has become Bailey's "place", and I have trained him to go to his "place" and lay down on command. So if I were to come to your house, I would bring Bailey's "place" (pallet/bed...) with me. If you don't want him on your furniture, I would put the bed on the floor and tell him to "go to your place", and that is where Bailey will stay. This solves the problem of Bailey not being able to differentiate between the furniture at my house and the furniture at your house.

Now if you don't want them zipping through the house jumping from couch to couch (mine do this too.. I love watching it... but I'm not you, right?)... then you need to get something treat-wise to divert their attention away from turbo time in the house.
redneckhalo


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
12/19/2007 9:05 AM  
humm... Zoey does this... but we allow it... she knows what "Easy" means so if she gets wild, I can "Zoey easy" and she calms down.

♥No outfit is complete without dog hair♥

Kristin (Zoey's Mom)
rattytatty


Newbie
Newbie
12/19/2007 9:17 AM  
I guess it's not something that bothers me. I love watching them rip through the house on turbo power with each other... but I can see where it might bother some...
swatson6


Attention Starved
Attention Starved
12/19/2007 9:22 AM  
Jack gets going so fast he will literally run sideways across the couch so he is parallell with the floor. He defys gravity!! LOL I don't mind it myself either, but my 4 kids do a number on things too so what are 2 small dogs going to do worse!?

Sarah
Mom to Jack, Jeter and foster mom to Teagan



Fuji's mom


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
12/19/2007 11:00 PM  

LOL. I can just picture Jack  running sideways. That is hysterical. Fuji has not reached that level yet. It's not the jumping that concerns me, but my sofas. When he doesn't make the landing  I can hear the nails digging into the leather as he slides off and have already found little Fuji marks in those areas. We are now quicker at catching him on the first jump and get ting him to stop with a firm "eh" . I will also try the redirecting tactic.

I know I probably should not allow him on the furniture at all (we did not let H-Chie on the furniture), but we just can't resist cuddling with him

Thanks for all of your great input and stories.


Nydia

"Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired."
-- Mother Theresa
NikoWafer


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
12/19/2007 11:29 PM  
Let me know what works. Niko and Rita do the same.

Victoria

Goodnight, sweet princess. You are still on your own; be stoic, dont panic; get through this hell to the generous sweet overflowing, giving, love of spring. - Sylvia Plath


BryanC


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
12/20/2007 12:04 AM  
I don't see what the issue is really. I'm not quiet understanding why this is so difficult. The behavior is not that you don't want the dog on the funiture but you do not want the dog to jump on the funiture correct?

I believe if the dog starts jumping on your couch if you spray the dog with the water bottle and say " No Jump " or something of that sort... but keep her up on the couch she will eventually learn "Ok to be on couch, Not ok to jump" ...

It just seems oh so simple.. but I'm not a experinced trainer and everyone else says this is going to be hard but I don't think it should be to hard..

Love doesn't make the world go 'round; love is what makes the ride worthwhile.
-Franklin P. Jones
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swirlything


Newbie
Newbie
12/20/2007 7:03 AM  
I solved this problem. My ratty, Buddy, is ONLY allowed on the couch if actually on someone's lap. He's not allowed to touch the fabric of the couch at all, ever. If he wants up, he can jump up at my knee to ask. When he wants down, he jumps off my lap onto the floor. He's had no difficulty with this rule. He knows he doesn't touch the fabric of the couches, and it's a distinction he grasps just fine. Now retraining your dog to do this might be harder than it was for me, since my dog has NEVER been allowed to touch the couch himself here. But ratties are smart enough that I bet you could do it if you were consistent and corrected your dog absolutely every time.

I did this because we have antique couches that are white. In fact, my husband is lucky that he's allowed to sit on them!

"The church says the earth is flat; but I have seen its shadow on the moon, and I have more confidence even in a shadow than in the Church." -Ferdinand Magellan
Fuji's mom


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
12/20/2007 5:25 PM  

Thanks for all the advice. We will work on this problem and let you know how the progress goes.


Nydia

"Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired."
-- Mother Theresa
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